TazUSB with slitaz-rolling.iso

# alouest03 @ Tue, 27 Jun 2017 19:03:20 UTC link

Hello, I have the following errors with "tazusb gen-iso2usb" command.

cp: can't stat '/media/cdrom/boot/isolinux/*.kbd': No such file or directory
losetup: /dev/loopO: No such device or address

See my capture attached.

[attachment=44861,2512]

# mojo @ Wed, 28 Jun 2017 00:24:24 UTC link

Open /usr/bin/tazusb as root in a text editor.
Change this on line 311:
cp /media/cdrom/boot/isolinux/*.kbd $TARGET_ROOT/boot/$ST
To this:
cp /media/cdrom/boot/isolinux/*kbd $TARGET_ROOT/boot/$ST

Save and exit

# pinkdragonfruit @ Thu, 13 Jul 2017 08:24:55 UTC link

THIS IS A DRAG & DROP METHOD FOR WINDOWS!!

I once came across Xboot from pendrivelinux.com when I was trying to find something that would help me create multiboot USB or DVD easily

https://www.pendrivelinux.com/xboot-multiboot-iso-usb-creator/

One can create multiboot or a single OS, bootable USB flash drive with simple drag & drop
I have tested & found it working for Slitaz 5 rolling release.
Slitaz 4 didn't work for me but you might be luckier!!

Hope someone finds this helpful!

(The bootloader selection screenshot is taken from pendrivelinux.com, I captured the other)

[attachment=44906,2517] [attachment=44906,2518]

Trying various window managers with rolling 20170611 (core)

# fredyfred @ Wed, 28 Jun 2017 06:19:01 UTC link

I tried out those too…but couldn't find any real improvement over the default so went back to that..

Latín keymap

# n-iCe @ Wed, 28 Jun 2017 16:59:11 UTC link

Pero la cosa es que no aparece es_MX

# mojo @ Wed, 28 Jun 2017 18:31:13 UTC link

root@slitaz:/home/tux# tazpkg search-file la-latin1

Search result for file "la-latin1"
================================================================================

Package kbd:
/usr/share/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/la-latin1.map.gz
================================================================================
1 file

tazpkg -gi kbd

# g2miguelangel @ Mon, 25 Sep 2017 00:32:38 UTC link

hola hice la busqueda para ese archivo pero no lo hallo .. donde esta el repositorio para descargarlo?

# rerivero @ Mon, 25 Sep 2017 00:58:57 UTC link

Hola g2miguelangel, para hacer lo que te indica mojo hace lo siguiente:

abri la Terminal Sakura, y logueate como root escribiendo:

su (enter) y luego tu contraseña, a continuación escribe el comando que te indica mojo

# tazpkg -gi kbd

16 themes for Linux (gtk, icon, cursor, font, wallpaper) for you

# I-Jurij @ Thu, 29 Jun 2017 13:18:17 UTC link

My website development practice linuxtheme.sytes.net

All themes tested for SliTaz compatibility.
If you need a "tazpkg" - write here, i give link.

Rounded corners look messy.

# shelleyfrank @ Sat, 01 Jul 2017 16:03:02 UTC link

Hi,

I've am using Slitaz 5. I noticed at some point in March, after doing updates and not paying attention to what packages got updated, that Openbox have been altered to display windows with rounded corners. It took me ages to discover which updates brought this change about, namely, the slitaz-configs-base and slitaz-configs packages.

Although I am excited about the future prospects of this new feature, I don't like the rounded corners at present, because the bottom corners of almost all window boxes look untidy, and this is the case in almost all themes. I also don't like rounded corners on the ends of the lxpanel.

So, after a long search, and eventually failing to find a way to turn the corner back to square ones, I ended up reinslalling Slitaz from scratch, using an old installer from last year, with older slitaz-configs and slitaz-configs-base packages contained in the installer image. On completion, I blocked these two packages in Tazpanel, so that I didn't end up getting the rounded corner back.

My question is, will it become possible to toggle between square and rounded corners in a future update, or is this the new look of slitaz from now on? Also, is there a way to revert to square corners by editing some file?

# Bellard @ Sat, 01 Jul 2017 18:30:07 UTC link

Try to change border.width in /usr/share/themes/SliTaz/openbox-3/themerc and restart openbox.
See http://hg.slitaz.org/slitaz-configs/rev/9b9c9f353af6#l7.10

# mojo @ Sat, 01 Jul 2017 19:56:59 UTC link

User rc.xml will not be overwritten when slitaz-configs is re-installed.
tux@slitaz:~$ mkdir -p .config/openbox/
tux@slitaz:~$ cp /etc/xdg/openbox/rc.xml .config/openbox
tux@slitaz:~$ leafpad .config/openbox/rc.xml
Delete line 53:
<cornerRadius>4</cornerRadius>
Save, Logout/in Xsession

# shelleyfrank @ Sat, 01 Jul 2017 23:35:29 UTC link

Thanks guys. Mojo, I have figured it out with pure luck minutes before you posted your reply.

To be cautious I first cooked the two packages, slitaz-configs and slitaz-configs-base so that I have a tazpkg of each. Then I updated the packages and rebooted. To my surprise my window boxes/ dialogues still had square corners! This is explained by the fact that the rc.xml stays put after the update, as you said. I browsed to the ~/.config/openbox folder and did the following:

I renamed /home/user/.config/openbox/rc.xml to rc.xml.OLD and rebooted. Then I compared the newly created rc.xml with the old file in Meld and hit upon line 53. Changing the value to 0 got rid of the rounded corners.

Thanks a lot. Issue solved.

Clonezilla

# metanovii @ Wed, 05 Jul 2017 06:28:45 UTC link

Hi. I try run clinezilla by "clonezilla -l 0" , and have message "Not such language option!!!"
All work if locale=ru_RU.UTF-8, but i need EN.

# sixofeight @ Wed, 05 Jul 2017 22:07:17 UTC link

maybe
locales=en_US.UTF-8

# metanovii @ Thu, 06 Jul 2017 04:55:58 UTC link

I make simlink from /usr/share/drbl/lang/bash/en_US to /usr/share/drbl/lang/bash/en_US.UTF-8 , now all work. :D

Серые и белые компьютеры.

# Sergey @ Thu, 06 Jul 2017 02:01:00 UTC link

У меня серый компьютер. На другой стороне нужен белый компьютер для опытов с программой Netcat, будет ли чат, обмен файлами и так далее. Почему такая простая программа не задействована в средствах коммуникации?

ntpd won't start at boot need advice

# raj @ Thu, 06 Jul 2017 03:07:33 UTC link

Hello, I'm running Slitaz 5.0 (December 2016 release). My ntpd is not starting at boot. The boot message is "ntpd bad address pool.ntp.org" and it doesn't start. If I run "ntpd -p pool.ntp.org" as root it starts and in about 10 seconds it sets my system time.

I've tried installing the ntp package and then removing it after many configuration changes. Right now my files in /etc are back to default.

/etc/daemons.conf:
NTPD_OPTIONS="-p pool.ntp.org"

/etc/rcS.conf
RUN_DAEMONS="firewall httpd ntpd"

There is a link in /etc/init.d/ntpd -> daemon

The boot message says its starting /etc/init.d/network.sh
and other network messages about wpa etc and then says Connecting to MYROUTER
several lines before it attempts to start the ntpd. After boot my network is fine, and I can start the ntpd manually.

Is there a fix? Why does it fail at boot? Is there a way to start it automatically after boot?

Thanks

# kultex @ Thu, 06 Jul 2017 07:40:29 UTC link

you can put

ntpd -p pool.ntp.org

to your /etc/init.d/locale.sh

if it does not work just put

sleep 10

before your ntpd command

# raj @ Thu, 06 Jul 2017 09:35:43 UTC link

Fixed.

It seems that the busybox ntpd takes a little while to engage and set the entry in /proc/???/status when contacting a pooled address like pool.ntp.org.

I found that if I added a "sleep 3" after the command to load ntpd it has time to do its thing properly and everything works.

I added one line to /etc/init.d/daemon, the relevant part shown below.

case "$1" in
start)
grep -qs $DAEMON /etc/inetd.conf && active_inetd
if active_pidfile $PIDFILE $NAME ; then
_ '%s is already running.' $NAME
exit 1
fi
action 'Starting %s: %s...' "$DESC" $NAME
$DAEMON $OPTIONS
sleep 3 #<<< THIS IS THE NEW LINE >>>#

[ -f $PIDFILE ] || pidof $NAME | awk '{print $1}' > $PIDFILE
active_pidfile $PIDFILE $NAME
status
;;

# raj @ Sat, 08 Jul 2017 22:43:08 UTC link

I just thought I should follow up. It appears that a 3 second delay was not sufficient. In the boot sequence the inetd get started right before the ntpd so I felt it was a good idea to give it extra time to complete before running the ntpd.

I have modified two lines in the /etc/init.d/daemon file, In the same chunk mentioned before I now have:

sleep 5
$DAEMON $OPTIONS
sleep 10

"sleep 10" replaces the "sleep 3" in the code of the previous post and the "sleep 5" is just above it.

Finally everything works as expected and the ntpd starts.

busybox httpd, lighttpd + php + sql

# I-Jurij @ Thu, 06 Jul 2017 13:00:11 UTC link

Сейчас сайт на busybox httpd. Хочу к нему прикрутить php-скрипты. У PHP в зависимостях lighttpd.

Сейчас httpd запускается на 80 порту с пом.настроек в /etc/inetd.conf, /etc/httpd.conf и записи в rcS.conf,
и на 82 порту (настройки в /etc/init.d/tazpanel /etc/slitaz/httpd.conf, порт - в /etc/slitaz/tazpanel.conf).

Чтобы после установки php все работало, достаточно убрать httpd из rcS.conf (80 порт) и добавить туда lighttpd? В tazpanel лучше оставить httpd или тоже переписать на lighttpd?

И SQL в slitaz какой лучше ставить, чтобы с настройками на заморачиваться?

# I-Jurij @ Thu, 06 Jul 2017 15:57:14 UTC link

lighttpd + sqlite + php
- httpd from rcS.conf
+ lighttpd to rcS.conf
voila!

# I-Jurij @ Thu, 06 Jul 2017 15:57:56 UTC link

Как удалить свою тему?

# I-Jurij @ Thu, 06 Jul 2017 19:00:31 UTC link

После установки php и его работы с sqlite нужно в /etc/php.ini сделать extension=/usr/share/php/sqlite3.so

# I-Jurij @ Thu, 06 Jul 2017 20:51:23 UTC link

Есть кто?

Консольный php сервер на 8000 порту, запущенный вручную, работает отлично.

Куда копать?

# devl547 @ Thu, 06 Jul 2017 22:00:17 UTC link

>это норм?

Честно говоря, я уже несколько отошел от дел, а Алексей редко появляется.
Год назад держал серверок на slitaz - гонял всё на busybox httpd (даже больше - через inetd).

# I-Jurij @ Thu, 06 Jul 2017 22:30:55 UTC link

Ясно. Тоже пока только на httpd.
А можно немного подробнее о:

php-скрипты запускались через него же, как cgi

хотя бы где смотреть.

# Aleksej @ Fri, 07 Jul 2017 00:45:07 UTC link

Приветствую.

Алексей редко появляется.

Всё равно ведь помочь не смогу.

PHP я не использовал. Не знаю даже, с какой стороны к нему подходить. Немного правил готовые PHP-скрипты на www slitaz.org и на mirror1.slitaz.org, но это так…

Использовал Lighttpd для разработки интерфейса cook.slitaz.org/next/ на локалхосте. Время от времени запускаю его командой:

# /etc/init.d/httpd stop; /etc/init.d/lighttpd start

Можно, по идее, подглядеть конфиги на Tank-сервере. Там же Lighttpd. И PHP тоже есть. Какой файл вытянуть?

# I-Jurij @ Fri, 07 Jul 2017 09:12:19 UTC link

Это будет хорошо. /etc/php.ini + /etc/lighttpd/lighttpd.conf, если можно.

# I-Jurij @ Fri, 07 Jul 2017 10:56:45 UTC link

+ php.ini
date.timezone = "your_timezone"

# I-Jurij @ Fri, 07 Jul 2017 11:53:03 UTC link

lighttpd умирал, по-моему, из-за httpd. Оставил busybox httpd.
В /etc/rcS.conf:
RUN_DAEMONS: "... httpd ..."

В /etc/httpd.conf:

# Allow address.
A:*

*.php:/usr/bin/php-cgi

В /etc/php.ini:

cgi.force_redirect = 0
cgi.redirect_status_env = "yes"
extension=/usr/share/php/sqlite3.so
date.timezone = "Europe/Moscow"

# I-Jurij @ Sun, 16 Jul 2017 22:12:35 UTC link

Причиной падения lighttpd был httpd на 80 порту, потому что кроме rcS.conf была также запись в inet.conf.

The main arm repository is broken

# devilalice @ Thu, 06 Jul 2017 14:16:40 UTC link

Right after the installation of Slitaz ARM (slitaz-rpi-desktop-20140329.tar.bz2) to SD and the successful boot I'd tried to upgrade packages. Fail. spk-up is infinitly downloading the first package again and again. With "ash -x" I found there is no md5 info got by the script, therefore it removes the successfuly downloaded package and download it again. Moreover the

http://cook.slitaz.org/cross/arm/packages/packages.desc

contains info about a lot of packages, but only 6 are here:

http://cook.slitaz.org/cross/arm/packages/packages.md5

I suppose the incomplete list of the md5 sums results to the error described above. Please, fix it or point me to the correct solution if I'm completly wrong.

Also I found strange spk-up tries to download the first package even if it marked as "New build" - why ? I understand the "New build" as the up-to-date package, is it right ?

Can Inkscape Tazpkg be updated to 0.92.1?

# yuan @ Fri, 07 Jul 2017 12:41:32 UTC link

Inkscape the latest version is already 0.92.1, an increase of Mesh and other functions, hope that the source of the software package can be updated. Thank you!

wvdial

# fredyfred @ Mon, 10 Jul 2017 10:20:31 UTC link

must be something Im overlooking:

CLI:
wvdial
--> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.61
--> Warning: section [Dialer Defaults] does not exist in wvdial.conf.
--> Cannot open /dev/modem: No such file or directory
--> Cannot open /dev/modem: No such file or directory
--> Cannot open /dev/modem: No such file or directory

Or does this mean I have a 'Winmodem' that is either not detected at start up, or simply is not a true modem??

Small repo of my tazpkg's (маленький репо моих пакетов)

# I-Jurij @ Wed, 12 Jul 2017 20:53:43 UTC link

Collected in one place what was done.
These packages are not build in slitaz, so they will not be official repo.
Tazpkg is here
AS iS, NO SUPPORT.

Собрал в лдном месте то, что делал.
Эти пакеты не собирались в slitaz, поэтому в основном репо их не будет.
Пакеты tazpkg здесь

# I-Jurij @ Thu, 13 Jul 2017 12:30:24 UTC link

After site reconstruction Tazpkg now is here

После изменения структуры сайта Пакеты tazpkg теперь здесь

# I-Jurij @ Wed, 19 Jul 2017 15:08:38 UTC link

Добавил midori 0.5.11, портированный из PRA03.

# I-Jurij @ Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:34:08 UTC link

И удалил его, потому что норм работы от него не добился (проблемы с gck, p11-kit, gcr, сертификатами)

# I-Jurij @ Thu, 20 Jul 2017 22:00:56 UTC link

Добавил Midori-0.5.9, портированный из Slackware 14.1.

# I-Jurij @ Sun, 30 Jul 2017 21:34:30 UTC link

Avidemux 2.6.3

# I-Jurij @ Sat, 05 Aug 2017 19:01:12 UTC link

WinFF - gui for ffmpeg
Avidemux 2.6.3 qt4 v.2 (fixed error)
Both applications work fine with my mpv 0.24 (here is ffmpeg)

# I-Jurij @ Thu, 24 Aug 2017 20:35:57 UTC link

Added:
GIMP v.2.8.22 with print support (cups, gutenprint),
GIMP plugins v.2.8.22 include plugin for print with gutenprint,
Gutenprint 5.2.12 tested only with Canon Pixma MG2940.

# I-Jurij @ Sat, 16 Sep 2017 19:08:37 UTC link

Palemoon 27.4.2

# andreid @ Wed, 27 Sep 2017 20:54:01 UTC link

Добавь пожалуйста Firefox Quantum - наконец то FFox начал летать(не тормозит)... это из dev ветки.

# I-Jurij @ Thu, 28 Sep 2017 08:34:57 UTC link

Palemoon 27.5.0
Firefox development edition v.57.0b3

# I-Jurij @ Mon, 09 Oct 2017 15:51:15 UTC link

Firefox development edition v.57.0b6
Opera stable 45.0

# I-Jurij @ Tue, 10 Oct 2017 19:27:13 UTC link

Palemoon 27.5.1 i686

Firefox development 57.0b7

# TraceE @ Sun, 22 Oct 2017 22:55:35 UTC link

Hi I-Jurij I would love to try some more of your packages but can't seem to download anything from Yandex ...

I am using a previous version of Firefox ESR that you had packaged and remember there were other steps to take to download straight from Yandex.

Can you remind me please?

# Aleksej @ Sun, 22 Oct 2017 23:51:43 UTC link

Hi TraceE,

You can try to search on the internet for "glype proxy list".
For example, you can pick http://www.proxylisty.com/category/Glype%20Proxy-list
Select proxy that you like, for example http://www.uk-proxy.co.uk/
Paste your URL there and that's all. Hope this helps.

Also, I want to note, that I've made the yandex-disk package long time ago. For some strange reason, Yandex is blocked here (Ukraine), but Yandex-Disk is still synchronizes my files. So here can be a trick: to visit download page on the Yandex-Disk (using proxy), press there "Save on my Yandex disk", wait, and your file will be on your local Yandex-Disk folder in a while. Only, I'm not sure Yandex-Disk will work on your network. It depends on your provider. For example, mirror of the Open source projects, mirror.yandex.ru opened here without any problems...

# TraceE @ Mon, 23 Oct 2017 16:13:45 UTC link

Thanks .... got it now ... :)

# I-Jurij @ Mon, 23 Oct 2017 18:27:47 UTC link

firefox-devel-57.0b10.tazpkg
firefox-exr-45.9.0-i386-ru.tazpkg

# TraceE @ Thu, 26 Oct 2017 06:45:27 UTC link

It was Avidemux 2.6.3 I was interested in and it works fine ... but doesn't have x264 support ... :(

Thanks for putting your packages up I've tried a few of them ... :)

# I-Jurij @ Sun, 12 Nov 2017 07:28:53 UTC link

You can try http://www.fosshub.com/Avidemux.html/avidemux_2.7.0.appImage
Maybe this will work on SliTaz x64.

Seamonkey 2.49.1 tazpkg

Palemoon 27.6.0 tazpkg

No way to run from USB without already having Slitaz or Windows? Many missing out.

# pinkdragonfruit @ Thu, 13 Jul 2017 08:13:36 UTC link

THIS IS A DRAG & DROP METHOD FOR WINDOWS!!

I once came across Xboot from pendrivelinux.com when I was trying to find something that would help me create multiboot USB or DVD easily

https://www.pendrivelinux.com/xboot-multiboot-iso-usb-creator/

One can create multiboot or a single OS, bootable USB flash drive with simple drag & drop
I have tested & found it working for Slitaz 5 rolling release.
Slitaz 4 didn't work for me but you might be luckier!!

Hope someone finds this helpful!

[attachment=44904,2513] [attachment=44904,2514]

SliTaz-rolling - USB flash stick live installation - From Windows FAILS

# pinkdragonfruit @ Thu, 13 Jul 2017 08:16:33 UTC link

THIS IS A DRAG & DROP METHOD FOR WINDOWS!!

I once came across Xboot from pendrivelinux.com when I was trying to find something that would help me create multiboot USB or DVD easily

https://www.pendrivelinux.com/xboot-multiboot-iso-usb-creator/

One can create multiboot or a single OS, bootable USB flash drive with simple drag & drop
I have tested & found it working for Slitaz 5 rolling release.
Slitaz 4 didn't work for me but you might be luckier!!

Hope someone finds this helpful!

[attachment=44905,2515] [attachment=44905,2516]

Can't boot live slitaz from usb key

# pinkdragonfruit @ Thu, 13 Jul 2017 08:26:38 UTC link

THIS IS A DRAG & DROP METHOD FOR WINDOWS!!

I once came across Xboot from pendrivelinux.com when I was trying to find something that would help me create multiboot USB or DVD easily

https://www.pendrivelinux.com/xboot-multiboot-iso-usb-creator/

One can create multiboot or a single OS, bootable USB flash drive with simple drag & drop
I have tested & found it working for Slitaz 5 rolling release.
Slitaz 4 didn't work for me but you might be luckier!!

Hope someone finds this helpful!

(The bootloader selection screenshot is taken from pendrivelinux.com, I captured the other)

[attachment=44907,2519] [attachment=44907,2520]

équivalent minitube, smtube, gyk youtube viewer sur slitaz 4

# LienRag @ Thu, 13 Jul 2017 20:33:52 UTC link

Logiquement que smtube doit être installé dans un répertoire contenant une installation 32 bit et Qt 5.6.1 de smplayer...
Qt est une API graphique, pour info.
Par contre personnellement je n'ai jamais réussi à installer correctement un truc avec Wine sous Slitaz.

Dalle tactille sur tablette non opérationnel

# LienRag @ Thu, 13 Jul 2017 20:41:00 UTC link

Pas sûr que ça soit implémenté dans slitaz...

Slitaz ne trouve plus les paquets

# LienRag @ Thu, 13 Jul 2017 20:49:21 UTC link

La première idée est que lorsqu'on est archi débutant en linux, on peut essayer de ne pas débuter par Slitaz...
C'est une excellente distribution, mais il ne faut pas avoir peur de configurer à la main; et qui plus est le nombre d'utilisateurs est limité et le forum pas très vivant malgré la bonne volonté de certains.
Pourquoi ne pas commencer par une distribution plus orientée débutant, comme Mint, Ubuntu ou Debian-Facile? Toutes ont des version qui tournent avec ne serait-ce qu'un Go de RAM...
Quitte à le faire en dual-boot avec Slitaz, qui ne consomme pas beaucoup d'espace sur le disque (par contre partager la /home n'est pas une bonne idée, mieux vaut passer par des liens symboliques).

La deuxième est que je ne vois pas de pièce jointe, c'est donc difficile d'en dire plus (à moins que je ne sois aveugle).

La troisième, es-tu certain de ne pas avoir supprimé ton user?

TLS Handshake issues

# LienRag @ Thu, 13 Jul 2017 21:19:27 UTC link

It's been more than a year that I've been told by a member of Slitaz staff that Slitaz 5 should be stable and that they're only waiting for enough free time to do the official announcement (and the lasts tests that come with it).
So I guess that 5.0 is quite safe to use, I installed it on a computer and though I haven't used it much so far I had no concern about its stability (I had concerns about the results of my ill-advised tampering with the system, but that's another story).

Though I have an old computer with Slitaz 4.0 on it, I have never upgraded the distribution to the next stable in Slitaz, so I can't answer your next-to-last question.

lire de la vidéo sur internet avec slitaz 4

# LienRag @ Thu, 13 Jul 2017 21:20:59 UTC link

Ce n'est pas un problème de certificat?
J'avais eu ça avec la dernière version de Midori, et n'avais pas réussi à le régler...
Si je me souviens bien, la version de Midori est dépassée et ne dispose donc pas des bonnes listes de certificats.
Voir ici: http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/tls-handshake-issues

Comment donner des droits d'administration partiels?

# LienRag @ Thu, 13 Jul 2017 21:26:45 UTC link

Bonne idée en effet, comment faire exactement?
Je l'ajoute au groupe sudo et je restreint les droits du groupe sudo, ou je lui rajoute individuellement des droits précis dans le fichier /etc/sudoers?

# Lena01 @ Wed, 19 Jul 2017 10:23:01 UTC link

Hello guys ,, i am a new member here ,wanna say thanks for your posts .. cool posts ...

Package "kiwix" not available. slitaz 5.0

# LienRag @ Thu, 13 Jul 2017 21:36:07 UTC link

I used Kiwix on slitaz 5 cooking without problem, downloading it from the kiwix website and following their installation procedure...

# fredyfred @ Fri, 14 Jul 2017 10:19:34 UTC link

Yep LienRag, I got it to work too on a different PC. I think the one I tried initially may have been too low spec.

Kiwix is a wonderful resource…to be taken to locations without internet…or to poorer schools.

Ive suggest to the local library that they could set it up on stand alone PCs for research only..as often library PCs are being used for games.

# LienRag @ Thu, 20 Jul 2017 15:28:01 UTC link

Nice idea, I'll suggest the same to my library...

Firefox works fine, midori doesn't

# LienRag @ Thu, 13 Jul 2017 21:39:01 UTC link

Isn't your midori problem caused by out of date certificates?

# terrybull @ Thu, 20 Jul 2017 10:01:02 UTC link

I'll mark this solved as I'm sure it's just this midori version is just well past its sell by date and not a fault as such.

# LienRag @ Thu, 20 Jul 2017 15:26:32 UTC link

Well, the fault is that this version of Midori is still the official one in the package lists of the official Slitaz stable...

wireless not working on LENOVO E10 (qualcomm atheros)

# LienRag @ Thu, 13 Jul 2017 21:50:02 UTC link

baby steps, bama_boy, baby steps...
What did you achieve?
Was the atheros firmware installation successful?
What is in your network.conf file?

No TLS handshake

# LienRag @ Thu, 13 Jul 2017 21:51:46 UTC link

TLS handshake failing is often a problem with certificates, not with the network connection...

802.11n

# LienRag @ Thu, 13 Jul 2017 21:54:15 UTC link

I still fear having to recompile something important but someone showed me how to compile one package and it's actually nothing to be fearful of...
Just find a good how-to, and follow the instructions - you shouldn't break anything else than the package that you're compiling, so in this cas you just delete it and recompile.
Obviously, if you understand the instructions that you follow, it's much better even!

slitaz pentest

# LienRag @ Thu, 13 Jul 2017 22:12:15 UTC link

How did you install metasploit and wireshark?

# Lena01 @ Wed, 19 Jul 2017 10:20:12 UTC link

Hi all ...
thanks for the posts

# Arnab @ Wed, 19 Jul 2017 19:47:05 UTC link

Perhaps Slitaz can't solve your problem. Even though it's very lightweight, perfect for netbooks.

But Metasploit is not lightweight, lots of scripts there, with very few compiled binary.
Most probabbly you need a better netbook with more computing power and a better HDD. Metasploit's performance is also dependent on disk I/O speed.

Minecraft on Slitaz 4.0

# LienRag @ Thu, 13 Jul 2017 22:15:20 UTC link

Have you tried Minetest instead?

Перенаправить с несуществующего пути на главную

# I-Jurij @ Fri, 14 Jul 2017 00:19:26 UTC link

busybox httpd + php + sqlite
При заходе на http://mysite.org/несуществующий-путь/ открывается список папок и файлов.

.htacess не поможет - нет apache.
Для httpd сколько не вникал - не нашел такой возможности. Если все же есть - ткните, плиз.
В php может и можно, но мне пока непонятно как.

# alexx @ Wed, 13 Sep 2017 14:17:40 UTC link

/etc/php.ini ?

# I-Jurij @ Wed, 13 Sep 2017 19:49:52 UTC link

Просто настроил разбор полученных url: если такой страницы нет -> иди на главную. Ну и index.html в папки позакидывал.

# I-Jurij @ Sat, 23 Sep 2017 18:36:16 UTC link

Проверил что получилось и вылезли косяки, например:
при переходе на mysite.org/bbb - 404,
а вот при переходе на mysite.org/index.php/bbb открывается главная, но без стилей.
WTF?

# Aleksej @ Sun, 24 Sep 2017 21:16:42 UTC link

Привет, Юрий.

http://hg.slitaz.org/cookutils/file/01166514e082/lighttpd/lighttpd/vhosts.conf#l4

# I-Jurij @ Sun, 24 Sep 2017 23:15:39 UTC link

Вот так:
url.rewrite-once = (
"^/aaa/bbb/(.+)" => "/aaa/bbb/"
)
url.rewrite-if-not-file = (
"^/[^?]*?(.+)" => "/index.php?$1",
"^(.*).php/*$" => "/index.php",
"^(.*).php/$" => "/index.php",
"^(.*)$" => "/index.php"
)
но результат не изменился. Если в адресе что-то вроде /любоеимядаженесуществующее.php/ - окрывается главная без стилей. И добавленные два выражения вроде как входят в последнее... Как разрешить только слэш перед index.php?

# Aleksej @ Mon, 25 Sep 2017 00:08:24 UTC link

Хм, по идее всё что тебе нужно — это кастомизировать страницу ошибки 404.

Вот ссылка на официальную доку: https://redmine.lighttpd.net/projects/1/wiki/Server_error-handler-404Details (Lighttpd моложе 1.4.17 некорректно реализует эту опцию; у нас в Rolling — 1.4.35).
А там уже сделаешь редирект на главную, например, при помощи 301...Location: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_301

# I-Jurij @ Mon, 25 Sep 2017 11:59:49 UTC link

Стили и изображения теперь находятся: указал абсолютные пути в html-коде.

404 работает так, как мне нужно.
http://host/index.php/bb
все равно идет не на 404, а на главную? Такой папки или файла нет, редиректа нет...

lighttpd должен завернуть на 404, а он этого не делает. PHP get-ов не находит и грузит главную.

# Aleksej @ Mon, 25 Sep 2017 13:07:35 UTC link

Я не вижу всей картины. И не знаю как настраивается PHP, может быть это его особенности?

Что можно попробовать. Поставь себе (не на сервер) пакет curl и посмотри заголовки ответа сервера:

curl -IL http://host/index.php/bb

# I-Jurij @ Mon, 25 Sep 2017 15:50:35 UTC link

$ curl -IL http://host/index.php/bb
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Set-Cookie: ... path=/
...
Server: lighttpd (SliTaz GNU/Linux)

$ curl -Iv

> HEAD /index.php/bb HTTP/1.1 ...
> Accept: */*

Где этот Accept прячется?

# I-Jurij @ Mon, 25 Sep 2017 17:00:11 UTC link

Запретить и сделать 404:
$HTTP["url"] =~ "^/index.php/+" {
url.access-deny = ("")
}
Или перенаправить на index.php:
url.rewrite-once = (
"^/index.php/+" => "/index.php"
)

# Aleksej @ Mon, 25 Sep 2017 17:17:22 UTC link

А я хочу тебе предложить поискать файл .htaccess где-то невдалеке от index.php и найти там rewrite rules.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/16388959/url-rewriting-with-php

> Где этот Accept прячется?
Это curl говорит, что он поддерживает любые MIME-типы. Это не ответ сервера, а запрос юзер-агента.

# I-Jurij @ Mon, 25 Sep 2017 21:38:33 UTC link

Не понял зачем .htaccess, apache не установлен... По curl ясно.

ЧПУ и крутой рерайтинг + роутинг сейчас не нужны. Что нужно было - сделано:

url.rewrite-once = (
"^/aaa/bbb/(.+)" => "/aaa/bbb/",
"^/index.php/+" => "/index.php"
)
url.rewrite-if-not-file = (
"^/[^?]*?(.+)" => "/index.php?$1",
"^(.*)$" => "/index.php"
)

Так все, что проверил, заворачивается на index.php

# Aleksej @ Mon, 25 Sep 2017 22:05:45 UTC link

> Не понял зачем .htaccess
Мне казалось, что если он есть, то в нём могли бы быть rewrite rules и это объясняло бы вот это:

Ещё раз - в PHP и в Apache я ни в зуб ногой. Так что прошу прощения если глупость сказал :)

# I-Jurij @ Wed, 27 Sep 2017 08:08:03 UTC link

До сути с пом. curl докопались - отлично. Остальное - мелочи. Так что спасибо!

GUI Package Manager Issue

# DennisD @ Fri, 14 Jul 2017 14:55:20 UTC link

Hi Everyone. New to Slitaz and am loving it so far. However, I have run into one issue with the gui package manager. When I click the icon it prompts for credentials. However it will only accept my user credentials not my root credentials. That provides me access to the package manager, but prevents me from actually installing.

However, I can open the terminal and use my root credentials to access su. From there, I can tazpkg get-install <<package>>, tazpkg -r <<package>>, etc with no issues.

How can I fix the issue that I am running into with the gui package manager?

# venchancer @ Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:51:08 UTC link

Hmm, this was possible for Slitaz4.0, but for weekly-5.0 the only solution is to login as root in slim.

# mojo @ Fri, 21 Jul 2017 17:20:14 UTC link

slitaz-rolling.iso built 2017-07-09 with md5sum of b1bebab92d1ffb71392277238d84faaf
tazpanel authentication works with default password root and after changing root password in either terminal or tazpanel. Tazpanel package manager gui was able to recharge,add,and remove packages.

Package Request: Pandoc

# DennisD @ Sat, 15 Jul 2017 16:09:58 UTC link

Hi.

I would like to request that pandoc and retext be added to the repos. How do I make that request?

Thanks

Protherm servisi

# trkombi @ Sun, 16 Jul 2017 10:27:09 UTC link

0212 824 0 999 - Alarko Kombi Servisi, 7 gün 24 saat, alanında uzman personellerle ve kendini sürekli yenileyen bir servis ağıyla çalışmalarını sürdürmektedir

No eth0 device on slitaz under QEMU/KVM virtualization (eth0 error msg)

# Linuxsoftware @ Mon, 17 Jul 2017 08:42:17 UTC link

No eth0 device on slitaz under QEMU/KVM virtualization (eth0 error msg)

Kindly update the driver or fix the issue in next slitaz-rolling version.

slitaz is incredibly light weight and it is very useful for virtualization under QEMU.

Attached ref img

[attachment=44929,2523]

# Linuxsoftware @ Mon, 17 Jul 2017 08:47:23 UTC link

Screen resolution are limited to 1024x768 in slitaz. Kindly enable option to select high resolution monitor.

[attachment=44930,2524]

# kultex @ Wed, 19 Jul 2017 07:19:11 UTC link

its not always true, what the this connection window tells - better look to the output of:

dmesg | grep eth

and

ifconfig

and slitaz has only vesa and fbdev drivers included - to get better resolution you have to install your video driver

http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:xorg-xvesa

# Lena01 @ Wed, 19 Jul 2017 10:21:33 UTC link

cool posts .. thanks for your posts .. they are quite interesting....

# Linuxsoftware @ Thu, 20 Jul 2017 07:50:02 UTC link

Thanks for your replay.

SliTaz-3.0-xvesa.iso- it solves the Video Resolution Issue. But not a network eth issue.

Running under QEMU virtualization.

eth is not detecting under QEMU virtualization. Please see the output of "dmesg | grep eth" is not showing anything.

do need any eth driver to run under QEMU virtualization.

[attachment=44939,2525]

Can we have any eth generic driver SliTaz iso? like "SliTaz-3.0-xvesa.iso" available for video.

# kultex @ Thu, 20 Jul 2017 12:27:58 UTC link

Use last rolling 3.0 is to old

# venchancer @ Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:45:05 UTC link

Weird, eth0 in slitaz works in my qemu. What is you host?

# shann @ Sat, 22 Jul 2017 10:55:08 UTC link

Hi,

If you use virtio hardware, you need to have KVM driver modules on kernel.
With e1000 card type, it's work because driver build already inside kernel.

venchancer, i suppose you need e1000 card, or you have kvm driver.

# Linuxsoftware @ Tue, 25 Jul 2017 12:59:50 UTC link

Hi

How to install "linux-kvm package" inside SliTaz manually. because network interface is not detected inside QEMU/KVM virtualization.

# Ceel @ Tue, 25 Jul 2017 13:10:18 UTC link

Download linux-kvm package (for SliTaz rolling) from another computer on a USB key.

Connect the key to you SliTaz PC. Open a terminal as root.
Change to the dir where is linux-kvm-3.2.71.tazpkg and
tazpkg -i linux-kvm-3.2.71.tazpkg

# Linuxsoftware @ Wed, 26 Jul 2017 13:43:19 UTC link

Thanks for your replay. but still having the problem :(

It would be fine if SliTaz LiveCD Flavors "xvesa-kvm" in feature by SliTaz :)

# Linuxsoftware @ Thu, 27 Jul 2017 11:24:42 UTC link

It is started working after changing network card module as "e1000 card". Thanks for your replay. much appreciated.

Can not read any CD/DVD

# Anywabanq @ Mon, 17 Jul 2017 10:08:17 UTC link

If your ROM cannot olayDVD I think it might be the codec and format error. Be sure the DVD disk you insert is MPEG2. You can download HandBrake http://www.videoconverterfactory.com/tips/is-handbrake-safe.html and select MPEG2 as the output format. Then burn it to a blank DVD and insert it to the ROM again. Another simpler way is to directly convert the DVD that cannot be played into MP4 format to let it play on Windows Media Player or VLC.
Modify message

Dlna на SliTaz

# Justolik @ Thu, 20 Jul 2017 15:25:36 UTC link

Собственно, как можно реализовать? С минимальными движениями. В линухе я нуб, но на столь старое железо адекватно стал и работает только slitaz. Спасибо за понимание...

iptables missing options

# bodhi.zazen @ Fri, 21 Jul 2017 01:02:19 UTC link

I know this thread is a few years old, but the answer is that support for --cmd-owner was broken and removed from the kernel in 2005

See http://www.spinics.net/lists/netfilter/msg49716.html

commit 34b4a4a624bafe089107966a6c56d2a1aca026d4
Author: Christoph Hellwig <hch@xxxxxx>
Date: Sun Aug 14 17:33:59 2005 -0700

[NETFILTER]: Remove tasklist_lock abuse in ipt{,6}owner

Rip out cmd/sid/pid matching since its unfixable broken and stands in the
way of locking changes to tasklist_lock.

Signed-off-by: Christoph Hellwig <hch@xxxxxx>
Signed-off-by: Patrick McHardy <kaber@xxxxxxxxx>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Bug in rolling

# venchancer @ Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:36:18 UTC link

Similar troubles with iptables config files...

Account Removal

# Mikoyan @ Fri, 21 Jul 2017 19:46:15 UTC link

Hello Slitaz Admin,
Please consider excluding my registration from Slitaz boards.
My best compliments.

OpenOffice4 (4.1.3) Pacchetto pronto in italiano in formato tazpkg

# nik57 @ Fri, 21 Jul 2017 22:43:04 UTC link

domanda stupida....per installarlo tazpkg install OpenOffice4.tazpkg nella cartella dove l'ho scaricato?

# gibor @ Sat, 22 Jul 2017 11:24:06 UTC link

Logico! In alternativa potrebbe funzionare anche un semplice doppio click sempre sul file scaricato. Se il mime fa il suo dovere, dovrebbe essere richiamato il gestore applicazioni e chiedere se si vuole installarlo.

opera-blink

# nik57 @ Fri, 21 Jul 2017 23:01:53 UTC link

non riesco ad installare la nuova versione di opera browser n'è suslitaz 4.0 n'è sulla 5;
ho installato get-opera-blink, poi da root ho aperto un terminale in /usr/bin, nell'elenco c'è get-opera-blink,ho dato get-opera-blink ma ottengo:

Welcome to opera-blink installer!
================================================================================
Continue with the next options:
root : /
version : latest
install package: yes
keep package : no

You can change the options in the commandline:
/usr/bin/get-opera-blink <version> --root=/path/to/root --noinstall --keep
================================================================================

Determining latest release... 46.0.2597.57

Command line: fgrep

BusyBox v1.26.2 (2017-03-15 17:45:28 CET) multi-call binary.

No help available.

Download size: Bytes

Connecting to download1.operacdn.com (151.101.114.2:80)
index.html 100% |*******************************| 505 0:00:00 ETA

Extracting the archive dpkg-deb: can't open 'opera-blink/meta': File o directory non esistente

# Aleksej @ Sat, 22 Jul 2017 00:12:23 UTC link

Hi there.

This script, written by me, will not work anymore for the new Opera Blink versions. You can examine the Opera Blink repository

http://download1.operacdn.com/pub/opera/desktop/

and found that version "45.something.there" is the latest version compiled for the i386 architecture. All the new versions is for amd64 architecture only, and you can't use any of them in the SliTaz.

Solution is to specify Opera Blink version that you need in the command line. For example, if you need the latest i386 version:

get-opera-blink 45.0.2552.898

# nik57 @ Sat, 22 Jul 2017 06:28:14 UTC link

ti ringrazio tantissimo, ci stavoprovando da giorni ma senza riuscirci..... :)

ancora una domanda,
è possibile salvare un pacchetto contenente il programma e le sue eventuali dipendenze, per poterlo eventualmente installare offline su una nuovo pc?

# Aleksej @ Sat, 22 Jul 2017 09:30:47 UTC link

Use the "--keep" option:

get-opera-blink 45.0.2552.898 --keep

wifi thirt part tool

# lm2 @ Sat, 22 Jul 2017 15:59:53 UTC link

on windows, you can :
change from wifi, wired
suspend your laptop

even without being administrator

the tools retains the wpa key one time, even if you change of wifi network, and go back without asking it again.

is it possible to have a third-part tool for wifi without requiring root rights?

it would be very useful for beginners end-users.

the same about suspending a laptop, it's not asking a password on window.. with slitaz, you have to go on root...

thank you

Radiotray não funciona

# Arthur @ Sun, 23 Jul 2017 16:39:39 UTC link

Algum usuario do Slitaz conseguiu faze-la funcionar? porque ela não aparece no systray? ou seja na barra? nesta dasta 22/07/2017 ainda não obtive nenhum usuario que me respondesse.

# Arthur @ Sun, 23 Jul 2017 16:55:38 UTC link

Acabo de descobrir que ele esta associado ao Rhythmbox que não tem no repertorio do Slitaz.

Alguem sabe como instala-lo ou fazer a Radiotray apontar para outro tipo VLC?

Estou evoluindo em minhas pesquisas. Tudo pela fome de manter meu Slitaz

I just found out that it is associated with Rhythmbox that it does not have in Slitaz's repertoire.

Does anyone know how to install it or make Radiotray point to another VLC type?

I'm evolving in my research. All by the hunger to keep my Slitaz

# tazaymedia @ Mon, 09 Oct 2017 22:54:43 UTC link

Olá Arthur!

Eu também instalei o Radiotray (sobre SliTaz 4.0) e quando executo acontece isto:

$ radiotray
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/radiotray", line 12, in <module>
os.chdir(workdir)
OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/bin/src'

O teu erro é o mesmo? De nom ser assim, poderias postear o teu?

Eu nom estou tam seguro dessa associaçom da que falas Radiotray-Rhythmbox, já que noutro PC (com Mageia) tenho funcionando perfeitamente o Radiotray sem ter instalado o Rhythmbox.

Como alternativa, eu agora estou a escoitar a rádio direitamente a travês do VLC. Há muita informaçom na Rede sobre como faze-lo.

# Arthur @ Thu, 09 Nov 2017 14:09:19 UTC link

Olá!

Ainda ninguém tem notícias de fazer funcionar a radiotray no Slitaz 4.0 e 5.0 tambem não funciona. Instala, tem no repositório, mas ao clicar ela não aparece na barra para poder ecolher a Classic fm de minha preferência e por fim mandar ligar a radio.

Hello!

Still no one has news of running the RadotRay in Slitaz 4.0 and 5.0 also does not work. It installs, has in the repository, but when clicking it does not appear in the bar to be able to choose the Classic fm of my preference and finally have the radio connected.

Por onde anda MOJO ou Trixar etc...
Where is MOJO or Trixar etc ...

Grato pela atenção

Arthur

When GLIBC will be updated?

# afeher @ Mon, 24 Jul 2017 11:04:59 UTC link

Dependency problem with Vivaldi browswer

SliTaz Version 5.0 (Rolling release) 2017-07-23
/usr/bin/vivaldi-stable: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by /usr/bin/vivaldi-stable)

I have: /lib/libc.so.6 -> libc-2.14.1.so

# I-Jurij @ Mon, 24 Jul 2017 17:20:06 UTC link

This is not the answer that you expect, but it will help solve some problems.
This use LD_LIBRAY_PATH.
Example for telegram you can take here
Unpack to $HOME/bin/ and run:
$ $HOME/bin/Telegram/start-telegram
Just add glibc+dependence+LD_LIBRARY_PATH.
The rest of the applications can be done on this sample.
Most programs allow you to do this.

how to use tp-link tl-wnb823n on slitaz 5

# michaelbischof @ Mon, 24 Jul 2017 18:52:00 UTC link

Hi everbody,
I just bough an USB-WiFi-Adapter, a TP-Link TL-WN823N.
After I inserted it lsusb shows me
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 2357:0109

I run the kernel 3.2.71-slitaz

Any idea how to make use of it?

Thanks in advance,

Michael Bischof

# kultex @ Tue, 25 Jul 2017 07:39:39 UTC link

maybe the Ubuntu driver from here helps und you can convert it with tazpkg convert

http://download.csdn.net/detail/jdbc/9837318

# michaelbischof @ Tue, 25 Jul 2017 11:34:10 UTC link

Thank you, @kultex. But this driver must be compiled. With a tazpkg-installation it would not work. Plus: apparently with each kernel upgrade the compilation must be done anew. So if there is no „ready“ tazpkg-solution availabele it saves life time to just try another tool with a better chipset. - This rtl8192eu thing seems problematic: on Q4OS with a 3.16.0-4-686-pae it works. On an Ubuntu installation with the same kernel it is recongnized (with ifconfig -a I can seee a wlan1 device) but does not connect. - Before I spend 2 days of my life on it I will better use said alternative. It is not a slitaz problem anyway.

# Ceel @ Tue, 25 Jul 2017 12:40:27 UTC link

@ michaelbischof

Without any warranties... Convert and install rtl8192eu-dkms_4.4_all.deb

# michaelbischof @ Tue, 25 Jul 2017 13:21:05 UTC link

Ok, thank you, Ceel! I might try it then. But forgive me in case I end up with a lazy solution and just will use another stick then.;-)

# mojo @ Tue, 25 Jul 2017 17:02:35 UTC link

@michaelbischof
tazpkg install rtl8192eu-3.2.71.tazpkg
Open 2 terminals.
Terminal 1 will monitor kernel errors such as missing firmware:
tail -f /var/log/messages
Terminal 2:
modprobe 8192eu
ls /sys/class/net will list alias if the kernel registers the interface.

# michaelbischof @ Tue, 25 Jul 2017 21:22:00 UTC link

Ok, thanks a big lot!
Installation went without trouble. The output of /var/log/messages:
tail -f /var/log/messages
Jul 25 19:01:18 (none) user.info kernel: Adding 3906556k swap on /dev/sda3. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:3906556k
Jul 25 19:01:18 (none) user.info kernel: Adding 3145724k swap on /dev/sdb5. Priority:-2 extents:1 across:3145724k
Jul 25 19:01:18 (none) user.info kernel: NET: Registered protocol family 10
Jul 25 19:01:27 (none) user.err kernel: [drm:drm_crtc_helper_set_config] *ERROR* failed to set mode on [CRTC:6]
Jul 25 19:01:30 (none) daemon.info : starting pid 1710, tty '/dev/tty1': '/sbin/getty 38400 tty1'
Jul 25 19:01:30 (none) daemon.info : starting pid 1711, tty '/dev/tty2': '/sbin/getty 38400 tty2'
Jul 25 19:01:30 (none) daemon.info : starting pid 1712, tty '/dev/tty3': '/sbin/getty 38400 tty3'
Jul 25 19:01:30 (none) daemon.info : starting pid 1713, tty '/dev/tty4': '/sbin/getty 38400 tty4'
Jul 25 19:01:30 (none) daemon.info : starting pid 1714, tty '/dev/tty5': '/sbin/getty 38400 tty5'
Jul 25 19:01:30 (none) daemon.info : starting pid 1715, tty '/dev/tty6': '/sbin/getty 38400 tty6'
Jul 25 19:04:08 (none) user.info kernel: cfg80211: Calling CRDA to update world regulatory domain
Jul 25 19:04:08 (none) user.warn kernel: RTL871X: module init start
Jul 25 19:04:08 (none) user.warn kernel: RTL871X: rtl8192eu v4.4.1_17696.20160509_BTCOEX20160412-0042
Jul 25 19:04:08 (none) user.warn kernel: RTL871X: build time: Jul 24 2017 23:55:11
Jul 25 19:04:08 (none) user.warn kernel: RTL871X: rtl8192eu BT-Coex version = BTCOEX20160412-0042
Jul 25 19:04:09 (none) user.warn kernel: RTL871X: hal_com_config_channel_plan chplan:0x21
Jul 25 19:04:09 (none) user.warn kernel: RTL871X: Wrong rate section: (CCK,2T)
Jul 25 19:04:09 (none) user.warn kernel: RTL871X: Wrong rate section: (CCK,2T)
[repeated a lot]
Jul 25 19:10:00 (none) user.warn kernel: RTL871X: duplicate tx power limit combination [band 2.4G][regulation MKK][bw 40M][rate section HT][rf path 2T][chnl 11]
Jul 25 19:10:00 (none) user.warn kernel: RTL871X: rtw_ndev_init(wlan0) if1 mac_addr=18:d6:c7:0d:4b:30
Jul 25 19:10:00 (none) daemon.info kernel: udevd[3392]: renamed network interface wlan0 to wlan3
Jul 25 19:10:15 (none) user.info kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan3: link is not ready
Jul 25 19:10:17 (none) user.warn kernel: RTL871X: nolinked power save enter
Jul 25 19:11:11 (none) user.warn kernel: RTL871X: nolinked power save leave

The USB-Stick is recognized as wlan3. I can scan:
root@slitaz:/home/tux/Desktop$ iwlist wlan3 scan
wlan3 Scan completed :
Cell 01 - Address: 38:10:D5:C3:D8:E5
ESSID:"wlanmb"
Protocol:IEEE 802.11bgn
Mode:Master
Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
Encryption key:on
Bit Rates:300 Mb/s
Extra:wpa_ie=dd160050f20101000050f20201000050f20201000050f202
IE: WPA Version 1
Group Cipher : TKIP
Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP
Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
Extra:
IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1
Group Cipher : TKIP
Pairwise Ciphers (1) : CCMP
Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
IE: Unknown: DD6F0050F204104A0001101044000102103B000103104700100CDB154D14E9B934F3743810D5C3D8E51021000341564D1023000446426F78102400043030303010420004303030301054000800060050F20400011011000446426F78100800022388103C0001011049000600372A000120
Quality=41/100 Signal level=75/100
Extra:fm=0003

But it does not connect.
And then I saw this output:
root@slitaz:/home/tux/Desktop$ ls /sys/class/net
dummy0 eth0 lo tunl0 wlan3

lsmod shows that the driver is inserted:
root@slitaz:/home/tux/Desktop$ lsmod
Module Size Used by
8192eu 909463 0

<= But it is not used!

Whether firmware is missing I cannot check. Beyond my abilities! ;-)

Regards,
Michael Bischof

# michaelbischof @ Tue, 25 Jul 2017 22:32:20 UTC link

@mojo:

An addition that I just found in the net, may be it is of help for you (beyond my abilities)

https://scdas141.wordpress.com/2017/01/28/how-to-compile-mangertl8192eu-linux-driver-driver/

May be it might help.

# mojo @ Wed, 26 Jul 2017 00:53:33 UTC link

@michaelbischof
The driver either works or it doesn't.
The rest is up to you, I just compile and package the driver.
There are no firmware errors in the output you posted.
The driver source code came from https://github.com/Mange/rtl8192eu-linux-driver
If you purchase another wifi adapter and it has a realtek chipset, return it for a refund.
Realtek wifi has the absolute worst drivers on linux.
Ralink/mediatek wifi chipsets have the best linux drivers.

# michaelbischof @ Wed, 26 Jul 2017 10:46:12 UTC link

@mojo

thanks a big lot agaain!

„There are no firmware errors in the output you posted.“ - Then it seems to be just happenstance. As said before: it works on some partitions, on some it does not.

„Realtek wifi has the absolute worst drivers on linux.“ . Yes, a waste of time then. As a consumer who sees something in the supermarket it is unpleasant: what chipset is in the offered USB-stick you do not see and if you are in a hurry, like in my case, on travel in Vienna, 30' before the shop closed, ...

A driver that must be recompiled with each kernel update is inherently an ill „solution“.

Forgive me for having wasted your time!

Regards,

Michael Bischof

PS.as I see 3 people downloaded your driver: experiences? ;-)

# michaelbischof @ Mon, 31 Jul 2017 11:42:16 UTC link

@mojo

But thinking again it seems clear to me that

1. your solution technically works perfect

2. the issue I have is not with making the Stick work but with wpa_supplicant. - The card works but it does not connect. Therefore scanning works, but the connection does not come up.

Thanks for all your efforts!

Michael

installing Slitas on a SD card

# Red @ Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:15:16 UTC link

Hi guys
I’ve got a question , I'm trying to install Slitaz on a SD card.
I'm using it now live from a USB stick but I would like to install it so I have persistent changes.
Problem is I have no hard drive in my laptop.
I plugged in a SD card and started the installer.
Everything went fine, but it will not boot, it returns the following message:

root (hd1,0)
Error 21 : Selected disk does not exist

That in itself is funny because at that moment it is starting from that particular disk (it's the only thing in there ) and it shows the Slitaz logo.
I do have a bigger problem though : I've no idea about code or command lines.
Is there an easy way to do this, or is this for the pro's.

Red

# Ceel @ Tue, 25 Jul 2017 21:20:19 UTC link

Hi Red,

What version of SliTaz? 4.0 (stable), rolling or another one?

Boot from your LiveUSB.
Insert the SD card.
Open PCManFM and go to /boot/grub on your SD.
Right click on menu.lst; select Edit as Root.
Enter the root password and change root (hd1,0) in root (hd0,0)

I've no idea about code or command lines.
Is there an easy way to do this

You just need time and read some docs :) Maybe you can start with this one http://doc.slitaz.org/en:handbook:commands

# Red @ Wed, 26 Jul 2017 19:21:23 UTC link

Hi it's me again

I did what you told me Ceel, I did change the line as you said.

Now it returns the message : Booting Slitaz GNU/Linux 5.0 kernel vmlinuz-3.2.53-slitaz
Error 23 : Error while parsing number

I'm using Slitaz 5.3-rc3

Red

# Ceel @ Thu, 27 Jul 2017 11:14:46 UTC link

Ok, GRUB finds the disk now but doesn't find the kernel on the partition.

Boot from your LiveUSB and insert the SD card.
Copy/paste the contain of /boot/grub/menu.lst

Open a terminal and become root. Type
fdisk -l
and post the answer.

# Red @ Thu, 27 Jul 2017 21:40:49 UTC link

I'm sorry Ceel but you lost me.
I did find /boot/grub/menu.lst, but what do you mean by copy/paste, I understand the copying part, but where do I past it ?

If I paste fdisk -l in the Sakura terminal it returns the following:

Disk /dev/sda: 8388 MB, 8388608000 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1019 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 128 1027136 b Win95 FAT32
/dev/sda2 129 1019 7156957+ f Win95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda5 129 383 2048256 b Win95 FAT32
/dev/sda6 384 637 2040223+ b Win95 FAT32
/dev/sda7 638 1019 3068383+ b Win95 FAT32

Disk /dev/sdb: 1015 MB, 1015808000 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 123 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 * 1 124 990976 c Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
phys=(0, 254, 63) logical=(123, 127, 4)
tux@slitaz:~$

The ( live) USB stick has got four partitions ( just for fun )
The SD card hasn't

The contents of /boot/grub/menu.lst is the following :

# /boot/grub/menu.lst: GRUB boot loader configuration.
#

# By default, boot the first entry.
default 0

# Boot automatically after 8 secs.
timeout 8

# Graphical splash image.
splashimage=/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz

# Change the colors.
#color yellow/brown light-green/black

# For booting SliTaz from : /dev/sdb1
#
title SliTaz GNU/Linux 5.0 (Kernel vmlinuz-3.2.53-slitaz)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.53-slitaz root=/dev/sdb1 quiet rootdelay=9

Dutch is my native language, but this is all dubble dutch to me.

Good luck

Red

# Ceel @ Sat, 29 Jul 2017 09:37:22 UTC link

I see, I should have thought to this.

In your menu.lst, change all /dev/sdb1>/code with /dev/sda1

# Red @ Sat, 29 Jul 2017 13:08:11 UTC link

Yes !

I made the changes, and it works!
Thanks Ceel.

Bug with TazPanel 610 ?

# Ceel @ Tue, 25 Jul 2017 21:41:05 UTC link

Hi all,

Rolling 20170723 in LiveISO

TazPanel displays twice the PaleMoon package. I've tested with other packages but it happens only with PaleMoon. Well, I didn't test withe the 5339 packages :)
I had a look on mirror1 but I didn't see any abnormal thing.

After I've installed the 26.5.0 version the 2 icons on the left of the package name became green so that really the same package.

Why are there a palemoon package and a get-palemoon package?

[attachment=44975,2527]

# Ceel @ Tue, 25 Jul 2017 21:44:29 UTC link

BTW:

# get-palemoon
Connecting to linux.palemoon.org (104.20.60.158:80)
wget: server returned error: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
tar: invalid magic
tar: short read
find: /opt/palemoon: No such file or directory
find: /opt/palemoon: No such file or directory

# mojo @ Sat, 29 Jul 2017 22:39:34 UTC link

@Ceel
Installing palemoon works with the extra/palemoon script using this command:
root@slitaz:/home/tux# tazpkg -gi palemoon --extra
Folder "/var/cache/tazpkg/extra/packages" does not contain packages
palemoon-25.4.1.tazp 100% |*******************************| 22417k 0:00:00 ETA
Tracking dependencies for package "palemoon"
================================================================================
Missing package "ossp-uuid"
================================================================================
1 missing package to install.

Unable to find package "ossp-uuid" in the extra packages list.

Installation of package "palemoon"
================================================================================
Browser based on Firefox that's optimised for performance
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Copying package... [ Done ]
Extracting package... [ Done ]
Remember modified packages... [ Done ]
Installing package... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
Update system databases... [ Done ]
================================================================================
Package "palemoon" (25.4.1) is installed.

root@slitaz:/home/tux#

Aleksej needs to update version and wget_url in his get-palemoon script and has a FIXME for the multiple listings in tazpanel for palemoon:
http://hg.slitaz.org/wok/file/bf23995a4552/get-palemoon/stuff/get-palemoon
http://hg.slitaz.org/tazpkg/file/4802158453e1/modules/get#l36

# hackdorte @ Sun, 30 Jul 2017 06:22:12 UTC link

@Ceel ...

The 'script' link is off:

#get-palemoon

http://linux.palemoon.org/files/27.3.0/palemoon-27.3.0.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2

# Ceel @ Sun, 30 Jul 2017 19:40:31 UTC link

@ mojo + hackdorte,

Thanks to both of you. Nothing urgent with it. I need to install palemoon only when I work from LiveISO.

Temporarily, after tazpkg -gi get-palemoon I modify the /usr/bin/get-palemoon script as follows:

line #3 VERSION="27.3.0"                                       >   VERSION="27.4.0"
line #5 WGET_URL="http://linux.palemoon.org/files/$VERSION/   >   WGET_URL="http://linux.palemoon.org/datastore/release/

then I can install palemoon.

# hackdorte @ Mon, 31 Jul 2017 04:25:43 UTC link

I think that the Aleksej must upgrade tazpkg or tazpanel soon :)

Fix: http://hg.slitaz.org/wok/rev/207919728178

Thanks Ceel.

# Aleksej @ Mon, 31 Jul 2017 10:32:53 UTC link

Hi guys,

I'm a bit off-topic here :-| And I not planned to upgrade tazpkg/tazpanel because all the ideas regarding them are over.

So, what the solution?

Let only one remain.

To remove? ubiquitous Palemoon from here? -
http://mirror1.slitaz.org/packages/extra/

and here? -
http://hg.slitaz.org/get-scripts/

and here? -
http://hg.slitaz.org/wok-undigest/

Leaving only this one? -
http://hg.slitaz.org/wok/

Or what are you want to be the solution?
PS. Thanks, Leonardo! Good work.

Have a nice day! :)

# Aleksej @ Mon, 31 Jul 2017 12:23:11 UTC link

Oh, forgot the thing. Actually, the last link contains two packages:

http://hg.slitaz.org/wok/file/tip/palemoon
http://hg.slitaz.org/wok/file/tip/get-palemoon

I've meant: to drop all the repacks, leaving compiled package only.

# hackdorte @ Tue, 01 Aug 2017 04:55:43 UTC link

Hi Aleksej

A package (palemoon) working in the WOK is better and more centralized for the production and update.

http://hg.slitaz.org/wok/file/b97c2fa66dc7/get-palemoon

:)

Help on installing Slitaz 5

# terrybull @ Thu, 27 Jul 2017 12:18:12 UTC link

I have a Panasonic cf-28. Pent 3(M)800mhz and 500 mb ram. It will run Slitaz 4 fine. It will run Slitaz 3 xvesa but not the 'plain' version. However I cannot get it to boot 5. It goes through the motions and then hangs on a blank screen. In a previous thread Kultex suggested that I choose slitaz core live and add nomodeset to the bootline. This doesn't help and makes no difference.
I would really like to get this running 5. The grapics chip in this is an Intel 82830M.
My Linux skill is low so please spell it out in simple terms if you can help.
Thanks in anticipation.

# Ceel @ Thu, 27 Jul 2017 12:54:36 UTC link

Try placing nomodeset before autologin (see http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/pb-booting-on-a-asus-x201e#post-23942).

If it doesn't work, add screen=text at the end of the kernel line and see if you can boot in console mode.

# terrybull @ Thu, 27 Jul 2017 20:36:55 UTC link

Thanks Ceel.,
Well there's good news and bad news. 'nomodeset' has done it. I was able to run slitaz 5 as live. Installed it choosing the dual boot with Windows option. When grub starts I do not get the option to boot Windows, just the boot into slitaz and after editing the boot options to include nomodeset again I get a working slitaz 5.
The HDD is split in 2 with XP on a ntfs partition and slitaz on ext2 with a swap on the end of the drive.
I think I need to edit the boot menu list which I've found how to do via settings but what to put?
How can I get the dual boot please.

# kultex @ Fri, 28 Jul 2017 09:38:39 UTC link

normally you should find in your menu.lst an entry for your windowsXP - something like

title Microsoft Windows XP Professional
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
chainloader +1

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB_Error_Reference

https://superuser.com/questions/182161/grub-how-find-partition-number-hd0-x

# terrybull @ Sat, 29 Jul 2017 19:14:16 UTC link

I'm not sure if this is a bug but installing 5 using the option to dual boot with Windows does not work. I have tried it several times and it definitely doesn't work. Grub just has the option to boot slitaz. Installing 4 brings up the dual boot option in grub perfectly. So is this an issue with 5?

# Ceel @ Sat, 29 Jul 2017 20:14:43 UTC link

I meat this problem with SliTaz 4.0. I don't know if it has been fixed since.
I had to modify manually menu.lst (http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/slitaz-4-0#post-8831).

Look in tazinst.log if you can see a message similar to "Warning: No Windows partition found. Dual-boot disabled"

Date stuck and never changeing (the same date of almost 1 year ago)

# masterforest @ Thu, 27 Jul 2017 19:24:22 UTC link

hi everyone, my old laptop with slitaz 4 is stuck at almost one year ago date (the clock goes on, pointlessly, of course). It never bugged me so I did not fix it, untill now that I have noticed that it does not let me access the most trusted sites because they have, of course, security certificate from the future, not yet valid.
Thank you all guys form a noob

Planning on switching to 64 bit

# guest_account @ Fri, 28 Jul 2017 04:24:43 UTC link

Hello.
I have been using slitaz since 5.0 RC3, and currently using RC4 build 2017-01-15, both live and installed modes.

I have felt curiosity to try the 64 bit build given the overall tendency in general, but just recently increased because I have always used firefox as preferred browser, and recent news said firefox will most likely drop 32 bit support at short or mid term. Oh, and I always download latest version from mozilla website whenever I use livecd, so of course I need to install gtk+3 package.

But after reading some threads here, I'm doubting about it a bit..

Is current slitaz 64 build nearly as stable as current preferred 32 bit slitaz in general? Hexchat, firefox, pulseaudio...
Is it at least usable or is it actually quite buggy?
Can firefox 64 bit really run cleanly on it?

Also, back in RC3 I built zandronum from source for some old gaming. It worked seemingly well. When moving to RC4 it also worked without needing to rebuild it entirely; I only had to copy the program entire folder, install some few packages it needs and run the executable.
I read slitaz 64 only has kernel and some few basic libraries 64 bit, but all rest of packages are still 32 bit. Could I do the same thing with zandronum on slitaz 64, without rebuilding it?

Thanks.

# guest_account @ Wed, 09 Aug 2017 17:35:49 UTC link

BUMP
Anyone?

# Aleksej @ Wed, 09 Aug 2017 18:28:09 UTC link

Hi guest_account,

alanyih working on his own SliTaz 64-bit version. For example, see here:
http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/slitaz-x86_64
https://github.com/alanyih/slitaz-x86_64

You can try to mail him.

I'm working (since December, 2016) on upgrading SliTaz 32-bit to the latest upstream versions of the packages (very slowly). I not touched 64-bit at all.

# guest_account @ Wed, 09 Aug 2017 20:41:09 UTC link

He hasn't been active here in the forums for quite a while already, and there's no email address in his github site.

Isn't mojo around here anymore?

# Aleksej @ Wed, 09 Aug 2017 21:12:10 UTC link

If you want to mail him, he has a box at yahoo.com.

His blog may be also interesting for you: http://alanyih.blogspot.com/
It looks like his realization of SliTaz 64-bit works as Docker container.

No other 64-bit SliTaz realizations AFAIK, anyway.

# guest_account @ Thu, 07 Sep 2017 18:55:39 UTC link

@Aleksej: his email address is nowhere to be found in the link you posted. Also it seems his build is certainly docker only, not liveCD or install media...

@mojo:
Any word about the thread by chance?

# Aleksej @ Thu, 07 Sep 2017 19:45:37 UTC link

Hi,

I wrote:

> alanyih
> he has a box at yahoo.com.

This mean:

# guest_account @ Sat, 23 Sep 2017 21:17:26 UTC link

Tried contacting, only response was:
"Try it!
http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/slitaz-x86_64#post-43384"

wth, an old build with clear issues on top of it...

@Aleksej:
by chance, have you tried it?

# Aleksej @ Sun, 24 Sep 2017 21:12:54 UTC link

by chance, have you tried it?

No.

Slitaz 5.0 password questions as a newbie

# iceedge @ Fri, 28 Jul 2017 07:48:25 UTC link

Hi, im new to Slitaz and i was wondering if there is a way to block the "change password" option for tux user ? Im instaling a few workstations in a hospital for kids and my supervisor said it needs to be linux. I installed all, changed my root pass, but if the "change password" option is available for tux user its bad :D since kids will change it.

Second question is that if i can block some of the menus, so they will not be available or visible for tux user ?. I mean when i go to menus i want to hide or secure with root password something like "preferences" "system tools" etc.

for all answers i will be very happy and grateful

# ckl036 @ Mon, 31 Jul 2017 07:38:03 UTC link

sounds like you want to have it running in a kiosk/lockdown mode. not sure what will be the recommended software for slitaz.

Anyway, you may also want to consider keeping that running as Live CD (perhaps create a customize version of that for your purpose). In that way, it will always go back to the same setup upon rebooting, nothing will be saved/changed permanently.

# LienRag @ Thu, 10 Aug 2017 19:28:52 UTC link

Can't you just cron a script that will periodically reset tux password?

And also manually add other users for adults that would need to access the computer if necessary, without meddling with the tux user?

# Timmi @ Thu, 17 Aug 2017 07:57:14 UTC link

I think the live CD is a good suggestion, but that does not solve certain things, like,
how do you restrict access to certain features if you wanted to?
Even a LiveCD can download and (temporarily) install programs. Since we are dealing with kids, giving them carte-blanche may not fit in with all the requirements of parental controls.

Surely there must be a way to create a guest user, and create some restricted permissions?

Also, perhaps there is a parental controls utility to help set all that up?
Porteus does have a Kiosk version, but it requires more memory and resources than SLITAZ... although it may hold some clues as to what can be done here.

xorg.conf deleted

# LienRag @ Fri, 28 Jul 2017 11:00:39 UTC link

I installed Slitaz 5 cooking on an old Toshiba computer, and after finishing the installation I tried to solve the problem of Minecraft not working, with an error message referring to OpenGl.
Googling the error message, I found a website reporting that it was a problem with the graphic driver so I installed the nvidia driver that they recommended.
After that there was no way to get a graphic session working, I kept getting an error message about too many screens.
It was late in the evening and the computer was to be shipped in the morning, so in desperation I tried mistake after mistake and ended deleting xorg.conf (as recommended by another website).
Now I get a message about "no screen"...

I apologize for being that imprecise, but I don't have access to the computer right now so I can't check the exact errors.

How to find or create a valid xorg.conf file then?
And how to fix the conflicting graphic drivers that plagued it?

# gdesilva @ Fri, 28 Jul 2017 13:33:44 UTC link

I would first run lspci command and work out the graphics card installed on your system (this command will list all the pci modules and among which you should be able to see the description of the video card) and then run 'tazx' command (as root) -> select xorg -> then select the appropriate card. This should install the correct driver. Hopefully, when you reboot you should have your graphics working correctly.

# LienRag @ Mon, 14 Aug 2017 22:34:54 UTC link

Thanks.

I turned on the very computer (to which I had no access for a few weeks after the night I tried to fix the graphic session, and so that was not turned on for that period) in order to try lspci as you advised, and it opened a graphic session just after startup, like he couldn't be bothered...
????!???!?????!????!??!?????
I am relieved that it works now (though too late, as I had to provide a replacement for it as it was supposed to ship one month ago) but at the same time I am quite frustrated to not understand what could explain this behaviour...
Of course I did try to restart it a few times the night I spent trying to fix the graphic session after breaking it!

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Is it possible to unsubscribe from the Slitaz mailing list??

# tommcd @ Sun, 30 Jul 2017 03:46:43 UTC link

I still cannot unsubscribe from the slitaz mailing list. I have sent many emails to slitaz-request@lists.tuxfamily.org with the subject unsubscribe and I still get these long ago unwanted emails. Can some admin take me off this mailing list please?

Grub PC code to start Slitaz one time in the commando line box?

# oui @ Sun, 30 Jul 2017 08:49:10 UTC link

Grub PC code to start Slitaz one time in the commando line box (for installation after frugal start to use tazx, and after installation, to do the same in the new system)? Add something with the "edit" function of Grub?

# kultex @ Sun, 30 Jul 2017 14:36:59 UTC link

http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/make-the-slitaz-boot-on-my-own-wayeg-command-line-only-ui-for-user

# oui @ Mon, 31 Jul 2017 15:27:53 UTC link

Thank you very much kultex!

@aleksej: why not 4 at the end of the line like in the most actual great linux?

# Aleksej @ Mon, 31 Jul 2017 18:04:11 UTC link

@oui: Why (and 'bout) d'you asking me?

# oui @ Mon, 31 Jul 2017 21:16:04 UTC link

Hi Aleksej

Because I suppose you are able to adapt our standard iso to new conditions. SliTaz is a frozen definition. All olds things like Beaver Editor continue to be present as well as Retawq (a wonderfull old char mode browser, but absolutely not actual any more) etc. Some other are not young but I see actually in an Korean Ubuntu version that Nano, for ex. the old SliTaz standard editor, is able to use 100 % in console Korean writing (one of the most complex writings at all, with Chines and Devanagari) and to permit transaction beeing not usual in CLI: free copying of texts between CLI an graphic mode and back, parts only or long texts also. Nano is wunderfull and offers more comforts as Vi or Graphic mode VI ! More than Leafpad.

I would say, it would be time not to change only versions 5 instead 4 but to adapt the scope of contents to that new version and I don't know any more, which instance is to ask for...

Kind regards

# Aleksej @ Mon, 31 Jul 2017 21:55:41 UTC link

Ah, that's what you meant...

Because I suppose you are able to adapt our standard iso to new conditions.

I'm not so optimistic, but I go without stopping :)

SliTaz is a frozen definition.

Yeah, very cold. Frozeny frozen. Interest in it has greatly faded away.

Nano [skip] is able to use 100 % in console Korean writing (one of the most complex writings at all, with Chines and Devanagari)

In console? I believe it's not possible. Console has limitation to 256+256 symbols charset. You can put the 51 Hangul Jamo's (separate Korean "letters") there, but can't put all the Hangul Syllables. Maybe you mean console emulator, like Xterm or Sakura (Xorg or GTK+ based graphical program that emulate char device)?

I see no great public's interest to put Eastern script support into SliTaz. And I'm a total noob in the input methods that I not use.

it would be time not to change only versions 5 instead 4

I've drop even 5 version :)
I'm working for 6 :D
And I will neither release 5 nor touch it without much need.

adapt the scope of contents to that new version

I choose BLFS to pull SliTaz in (some of the packages are even new that ones in BLFS now). I believe it's a great basis for our distro.

All that updates are slow and huge for my limited time, but I still go. I can't make any forecasts (I'm bad in it), but something tells me that we'll have Test Live CD until the summer is over.

# oui @ Tue, 01 Aug 2017 23:16:08 UTC link

Hi Aleksej

Thank you very much for that detailed answer!

To answer your question, I did erase my actual SliTaz installation :-(( and copy in the partition the installations statement of Ubuntu minimal-minimal, made just after the declaration 16.04 is now stable, and installed directly in Korean (it was difficult: the installation, all steps, are in Korean as soon you did enter the language! I did made it as web install twice: a first time on English, write all the steps on a paper, erase it, and repeat exactly the same a the second time). As I am only a beginning learner of that language, I did find the screens very different between English (first time) and Korean (second pass) but I did have success and did install nothing in "taksel" (people accustomed to install Debian or Ubuntu as web install know the step) but did erase all the proposals of system (= CLI only installation). After restart, I did invoque taksel again. Taksel offers so new options coming from depository and not from used ISO / the actualization of them. So I did have so the possibility to select

lubuntu minimal installation !

Lubuntu minimal installation is very light. Very empty compared with SliTaz :-)) !

It offers (with 1,8 Gb in 64 bit AMD64) only:

Lxde
(different from SliTaz) LXterminal (you are right with your supposition: that console emulator an NO real simple console in the menu Lxde menu. But, why uses SliTaz Sakura and not LXterminal? It is about the same?)
imagemagick and screenshot
nano
fcitx

nothing else

(excepted 4 or 5 frontends to set up the system, like video definition etc., and fcitx, but the frontend for fcitx setting does not work, as well as the also present icon for webbrowser: there is yet no webbrowser installed! The maintainer of Lubuntu minimal, a French man from Toulouse in France, propose Xombrero and gives a special version of it in private Lubuntu minimal depository, a version based on webkit 1, and that version can't be installed directly as it is not coming from main depositories. Ubuntu itself installs Xombrero on webkit 3.

Your SliTaz Xombrero version works (really) better than both ;-) as well as your links2 version! Thank you for the extremely clean installation with perfect finishing like home page on SliTaz on both! In the SliTaz version, flashplugin works without difficulty. In both Ubuntu versions, nothing to do actually...).

But ...

... all what you do in console (in that console emulator, LXterminal, in Lubuntu minimal) appears in real and perfect Hangul syllabes! So seen, it is correct and useful don't to offer an simple console in the menu being not able to do the job in the installations language!

How to start Fcitx (in Korean of course, after a Korean installation, not in Chinese!) I don't know.

After some time, I did fat my Lubuntu minimal installation. It is now an really heavy LXQT installation (LXQT because I can easily interchange Openbox with Jwm! Lxqt don't need Openbox at all! Why install it (and JWM parallel) for users accustomed in the past to work in JWM? It is a GREAT argument for old SliTaz-fans accustomed to use JWM in the past... They don't need to work with some completely different settings methods for Openbox with other frontends etc.I have two bars on the screen: an hidden tray from JWM on top (with small icons for that I don't know how to add in the Lxde menu ;-) ), - not really needed, you can also erase all concerning the tray out .jwmconfig, and, at the bottom, the LXQT bar more easy to handle than the LXDE bar for people not being accustomed to do that! Great advantage of .jwmconfig: I can add directly autostart methods like settings of setxkbmap etc. completely free without to search: where is that hidden in that system! It is so because I am accustomed to do that since SliTaz exists.

And I did erase Fcitx and install ibus-hangul with im-config:

That works really good and relatively easily in Ubuntu minimal full installation (but not in SliTaz... The package ibus-hangul is not offered in SliTaz. Fonts? In SliTaz, I don't know if available although I did install know the Asian font giving Chinese texts). Are those languages important? I find so. Chinese and Devanagari in all case as they are important for about 3 milliard people of the world (if you include urdu readers writing completely different, of course, but a lot of urdu people did also learn to read devanagari as both languages, hindi and urdu are the same one). And why not include, if you admit this fact, the needing few packages for Korean and Japanese?

I will stop here and write separately about the highly important fact, that you continue to use LFS to build SliTaz (I did know that in the past as you did begin to write you first "new SliTaz").

I will now reinstall my SliTaz full installation using the knowledge that I did acquire in the few last post of that forum (especially starting properly and without hesitation in text mode only and avoid so the highly irritation caused by unsuccess arriving in graphic mode!).

# hackdorte @ Wed, 02 Aug 2017 05:57:03 UTC link

Hi oui

You are welcome to join the team and share their help and experiences with SliTaz. You can help in translations to Korean and improve the language support :)

# oui @ Wed, 02 Aug 2017 21:48:41 UTC link

Hi hackdorte,

I understand your irony, but...

I am one of the very very old users of SliTaz and did perhaps translate more SliTaz texts as one other fan of SliTaz (for SliTaz version 1 and 2 in the old wiki! From French into German).

But the SliTaz guys did not secure her server at this time so that my translations are all lost... Sorry, I will not made it a second time (I have no copy! Exact! I have not copy! 2005 .. 2014 were terrible years in the textile industry in Europe. I often did have no job, no working PC...)!

If you look in the (new) wiki, you will yet often see my pseudo in the German pages (I am not German, German is the language I did learn later as adult person, a real foreign language for me! Christoph is Swiss man an did live all his life probably a few kilometer from a German country. I not: My family came from Paris where nobody speaks German excepted German descendants).

The applications I need daily did never come offered in SliTaz... Being so has the consequence, that SliTaz did never become my all day or daily Operating System because I need also the other one, with the complete scope of applications, equal which one, Debian, Ubuntu, Slackware or Mandrake and successors...

I use SliTaz (and Puppy linux) only as supporter of the (good) idea, not because it would be useful: I is absolutely not useful now!

Korean: it is not my language at all - I live in company of very performing Korean peoples next from Dusseldorf, the European Japanese capital, reason why a lot of other Asian people lives also here, Korean, Chinese and other companies

(my own employer, a big German town, belong more than own industrial company and did stop the production in Europe to produce in China and India ;-) ! That is the reality in Europe! And German people don't worry: Actually, no unemployment in Germany, only in the last years, in the new time not!), and I try to learn a bit their languages, as the language is often the mirror of the soul of each human. More not. But I did learn, beginning to learn the Korean language, that the concision and exactly accomplishment are a great quality of Korean people (more than Japanese: for conventions can the Japanese man sacrifice an extreme lot of time!) This make the Korean language very interesting for me (I understand some quantity of Japanese, Chinese, Hindi and Russian, in Russian, my "Russian" I can thing in that tongue. But I did never have contact with Russian people...).

I can not help in Korean: I have to learn it (a lot more) before!

I did help in SliTaz in German, in Puppy Forum in English, French and German (you will find different tutors step by step from me in the Puppy Forum, one of the only one forums never destroyed since 2005, tutors in those 3 languages although my English is bad, I did never learn it... I did register Mai 2005 at the Puppy forum. In SliTaz of course later as SliTaz newer is (2008/2009 says Wikipedia) and Wiki and Forums did be erased and the place taken by newers...)

Perhaps I would find here in Dusseldorf helpers in Korean... if it would be useful to use SliTaz in Korean!

If not, not (my actual Ubuntu full installation did happen in Korean: it works pretty! All things...)

Which argument would be in favor of SliTaz excepted to develop "new land"?

# Aleksej @ Wed, 02 Aug 2017 22:43:44 UTC link

I can not help in Korean

You can. You said that you use Ubuntu, and you said that the programs you need work there normally.
You can tell the names of that programs.
You can search internet to find the official pages where you can get the source (desirable but not necessary).
I can make the packages. You can test them.

And I want you to know that it's so difficult to perceive such sheets of text. Especially, when after reading it turns out that there was nothing said in substance in this text...

# hackdorte @ Thu, 03 Aug 2017 05:58:12 UTC link

oui : When i first came here, i thought you spoke Korean. :)

password for root transactions using sudo

# oui @ Sun, 30 Jul 2017 08:52:32 UTC link

I feel me pissed on in the actual new SliTaz64: sudo does not work any more without password.

Is that normal or did I made an error (because I did have great difficulties to start in commando line!)?

Can I change it in the user management or is it better to reinstall correctly if really an error?

# kultex @ Sun, 30 Jul 2017 14:30:37 UTC link

To run sudo without password is stupid....

But if you Really want:

https://www.cyberciti.biz/link/how-to-execute-sudo-without-password/

# oui @ Mon, 31 Jul 2017 15:37:50 UTC link

Hi Kultex,

I don't know but it is so and it is very helpful for people making the most that they do in CLI mode (as I do)... And it continue to be actual in SliTaz and operate perfectly now on my PC.

My error: I did not use TazPanel for a long time but did do first all in the console this time!

If you invoque TazPanel soon and if you confirm «save the password for the TazPanel access, the sudo access become given to "tux" as I did report in my first message above.

# kultex @ Tue, 01 Aug 2017 11:39:21 UTC link

sorry - I dont understand you

I never use tazpanel - I do everything in console

I use sakura, where I have the user terminal and the root-terminal - this is clear and secure.

Sudo is not part of the iso - if you install sudo you have to configure sudo

# LienRag @ Thu, 10 Aug 2017 19:23:50 UTC link

You need to understand that using sudo without a password means that anybody (man or process) having access to userspace will have full access to all your system... which is not exactly the Unix philosophy.
But of course, it's your computer - your rules.

heavy iso

# oui @ Sun, 30 Jul 2017 09:07:52 UTC link

I see that the SliTaz64 iso become each time more heavy...

But I also see a lot of doublets:

- a high quantity of editors
- a browser Midori over Tazweb (I don't use Tazweb alone, only in Tazpanel, but I never use Midori but only Xombrero working very well really in SliTaz, thank you developpers for that super installation!)

As I would be interesting to remaster my ISO myself (for ex. to install the packages being installed by tazx absolutely needing on my Laptop for an Graphic mode start!!! I don' t need some Beaver, Leafpad, Vi, Midori, as Tasweb and nano are enough as nano is perfectly integrated in the Graphic environment else it is a high performance CLI application, but those Graphic packages from Tazx, I can do nothing without them... Those Beaver, leafpad, vi, midori are an "overdose" and the Tazx packages a real deficiency!) I know that a fat ISO need more performance from PC to squash the ISO... I have two Laptop. The one as enough RAM but the old one has just the needing RAM equipment and not a byte more!

What is the best way in SliTaz5 to remaster the ISO?

Is an step by step description available in the doc?

# kultex @ Sun, 30 Jul 2017 14:23:48 UTC link

http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/tazusb-writefs-option-on-slitaz-live

I use normally tazusb writefs lzma

Then i change with isomaster (icluded in the ISO) the rootfs.gz

slitaz中文版貌似都没什么人来了,汗,很好的一个系统,就这么废了?

# ckl036 @ Mon, 31 Jul 2017 07:29:19 UTC link

是的,的确是一个很好的一个系统,最近很欣慰看到5.0版,试着在一部旧netbook上使用,还在摸索一些细节。

# oui @ Mon, 31 Jul 2017 08:03:43 UTC link

Hi ckl

The fonts you are using in this post are not available in the standard installation ;-) !
What are they / howto install them?

(The reason of my question: I would be interesting to use Japanese, Korean, Devanagari and Tamil writing, also both read & write those languages using directly the keyboard correctly, not with an alphabetic help mode but using the keys SHIFT - ALT - ALTGR and CTRL. I did found 2 methodes, FCITX, ubuntu Korean installation's mode installs it, and Ibus, it is the prefered ubuntu installation's mode for not Asian people, in the scope of packages. But not ibus-hangul or some Korean fonts for example!)

# ckl036 @ Tue, 01 Aug 2017 10:35:20 UTC link

Hi oui,

To view the characters, you may just install the Asian fonts from the "Package Manager", I added pcf-uming & wqy-*

Anyway, I am still struggling to get the Chinese input working for me under the latest cooking Slitaz 5.0. I tried SCIM and FCITX (separately), both does not display the IME / candidate list even though I am able to see the icon on the panel / taskbar

tazlito list-flavors - error in script?

# stecca @ Mon, 31 Jul 2017 18:54:00 UTC link

I am using tazlito to include some other packages to the core; the building script works fine,
but the "list-flavors" command does not work as expected and gives two errors:

usr/bin/tazlito: local: line 2854: not in a function
sh -n : unknown operand

I tried also to install bash shell and to run tazlito with it, but I get (again) two errors - but the second is different from the previous (see image)

I tried the command either in a virtualbox installed, in a virtualbox live and in a real-installed Slitaz and I get always the same errors.

Am I doing something wrong?

[attachment=45022,2528]

# Aleksej @ Mon, 31 Jul 2017 21:29:07 UTC link

Thank you! Fixed (I hope ;)

Commit: http://hg.slitaz.org/tazlito/rev/455
Download the package: http://cook.slitaz.org/cooker.cgi?download=tazlito-455.tazpkg

Slitaz-arm on Android

# UsPuS @ Tue, 01 Aug 2017 11:13:35 UTC link

Good phone! I advise everyone!
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# UsPuS @ Tue, 01 Aug 2017 11:14:41 UTC link

Good phone! I advise everyone!
https://goo.gl/3TFV5P

LinuxFromScratch (LFS) as "stuff supplyer" for SliTaz

# oui @ Wed, 02 Aug 2017 00:50:28 UTC link

Hi Aleksej

Your information:

«I've drop even 5 version :)
I'm working for 6 :D
And I will neither release 5 nor touch it without much need.

adapt the scope of contents to that new version

I choose BLFS to pull SliTaz in (some of the packages are even new that ones in BLFS now). I believe it's a great basis for our distro.

All that updates are slow and huge for my limited time, but I still go. I can't make any forecasts (I'm bad in it), but something tells me that we'll have Test Live CD until the summer is over.»

given in your last answer in the thread

http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/grub-pc-code-to-start-slitaz-one-time-in-the-commando-line-box

is highly important!

(Remark: I find really highly fun, that the 2 distros created initially in the French Swiss, SliTaz and NuTyx, and I will speak here about NuTyx, are both based on LFS, and if it is not completely unique in the world, is is something else! Some methods are really the same, like name giving: http://forums.nutyx.org / http://forum.slitaz.org or http://downloads.nutyx.org / http://mirror.slitaz.org, http://nutyx.org/en / http://slitaz.org, and perhaps more. Also NuTyx gives LFS sources and uses them to build binary packages from LFS, etc.)

A question Aleksej:

Did you try a time to follow and use (build the system) like this happens in NuTyx following this step by step receipt:

http://nutyx.org/en/build-pre and the 4 following linked receipt web pages?

I did do it 2 times with success. It was a fascination! Nothing to do (2 or 3 years ago! The receipt was very shorter as it did concern only LFS and not BLFS and the new NuTyx packaging system did not exist at all) else than copy with the mouse a few time line after line without to need to make somewhat else

and

after 1 or 2 days of compilation depending of the power of your PC

you can start a completely new LFS system made entirely from LFS sources on you PC without to have to use the LFS book (a very long occupation if you do that manually!)...

And you can do that in Graphic mode in a console emulator (you must use a console emulator to copy without some writing the commando lines from webpage to the console!) as your PC do, slower, of course, because the compilation job that happens at the same time, all what it does daily for you: surf, play etc. ... You can have continuously a look on the compilation job where nothing is to do for you excepted some disturb / bug happens.

The big difference between NuTyx and SliTaz:

NuTyx produces an extremely heavy system

SliTaz produces an extremely compact system

from the same stuff.

As far as know, Thierry Nuttens, the creator of Nu-Ty-x, can install NuTyx out only a script via internet starting from each system using the same bash dialect as LFS (probably the same as SliTaz or uses SliTaz perhaps a different bash because important bash scripts used in versions 1, 2 and 3 of SliTaz). I did do it a lot of times, it works perfectly passing only 3 or 4 parameters (language code, keyboard etc.). Also that can happen on a Graphical system running for other jobs (try it with Debian / Ubuntu, especially with debootstrap!). And it can happen completely from sources as explained above (actually, no other distribution recommend it really and offers at the same time conventional fully easy installation from live ISO! Gentoo not, Arch not favorable, Slackware is often named as supplier for sources but if you ask how to rebuild your distro for your own environment / processor, no enthousiasme any more. Same thing for Debian / Ubuntu: apt-build is more theory as praxis!).

And Nuttens did explain, his method of about automatic compilation can treat each scope of distribution you want: He himself try to automatize very next to the common use of LFS treatment of the building. But it was possible to compile something like SliTaz each parution of LFS as NuTyx publish in his git all versions of LFS without exception.

Second fact: Diverse packages are missing (as well in SliTaz as in NuTyx): Fonts, dictionaries, but also applications like gramps etc possibly interesting also for each one (gramps is not somewhat for specialists!!!). It is for a lot of people the cause don't to use both - if I would have to build myself my needing especialized app's I would immediately reinstall on my laptop that what initially was on it and pay by me - M$-Windows! Because I have other interests as develop. Each one have to know what he will be in the live: Developer or user or an intermediate person between both... And it conditionate what you will choice! If SliTaz and NuTyx having both the same sources base would cooperate together on the field of better handling von a/ BLFS packages not being yet compiled and b/ of foreign free packages, the heavy job would become half so difficult and the time of disposition of those packages probably shorter!

Last word: As well SliTaz as Nutyx can loose real ballast in the ISO (beavers, vi, but also simple consoles if you install Sakura). Why an too long menu where a shorter one would be enough and make the job more easy. The reason of SliTaz or Puppy Linux was to be so light, so compact, but offering a good app for each job. And, what did happen? (Especially) Puppy Linux (and in some kind also) SliTaz did become fat and fat and fat. If you look behind the door, Puppy Linux installs for ex. always 2 WM's (JWM and often Lxde like SliTaz) but also an hidden third one, Rox. Why? Rox is also an Window Manager! And PCmanFM as to become also more and more fat, to offer the same type of view as rox filer does! It is nonsens...

# oui @ Wed, 02 Aug 2017 07:47:36 UTC link

Important note: If you want to try to compile yourself LFS on you computer:
a/ use a really powerful PC if you want to see the end...
b/ check at the forum / IRC hotline of the distro if the depository is ok (NuTyx is an one-man distribution! Swiss people are the most powerful men in the world but they also have physical limits (::) and it can happen, that the little thing disturbing the compilation a running time is actual situation! With no luck, you discover it at the second compilation's day and it give a really poor experience...)

# kultex @ Wed, 02 Aug 2017 08:18:25 UTC link

Oui,

your critic is stupid - boot base or justx and install whatever you want without the fat addons.

And nobody will punish you, if you offer your iso to other people as I did with my testing iso:

http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/testing-iso-with-kernel-3250

The iso is no longer available, because I deleted my dropbox account, but I will do my 6.0 iso as soon as Aleksejs iso is ready - again with SpaceFM without udisks and Midnight Commander and some other programs I think, that they are necessary.

# oui @ Wed, 02 Aug 2017 10:23:11 UTC link

Dear kultex,

All people have the same right and I will also say that your answer is absolutely stupid! Your example is also stupid (for iso's they are also other hostings as the silly dilly payable dropbox. Look for help at the forum of Puppy Linux having an important site for old iso's. The guys from Debian live, appearing in that forum under the name "Debian dog" or "Ubuntu-somewhat dogs" are more modest and conscious that Union fait la force! They accept the hosting by the enemy else if they have an own little site).

But your link is very interesting!

What did Aleksej immediately answer in your thread?

«LXPanel

1. I need Keyboard layout switcher. I'm Russian, and we use two layouts: US (Latin) and RU (Cyrillic) and switch keyboard between them. I live in Ukraine, sometimes we use here Ukrainian layout to write documents Official language.»

Also in clear text: they are people having a very different needs as the stupid decisions makers...

So simple is the life!

Until now was Linux synonym from freedom. SliTaz was the best example for it as Christophe did equip it initially with a detailed as well as actual Scratchbook: Each man was able to reproduce, or change, or EXTEND SliTaz without some hesitation... The matter is, that it was not possible to maintain such a Scratch book actual. Release 2 of SliTaz didn't have some one any more.

Aleksej did find the (evident) answer for it:

use a Reference work staying since years ago actual, LFS... Ok!

It is a base, a good an well defined base, only that SliTaz is (very) different from LFS and also the result... But, if that page http://www.slitaz.org/fr/doc/scratchbook/base-system.html and following pages are and stay yet fully actual, no problem!

Is that the case (I read clex, rhapsody etc... Hm!)?

What did Aleksej write more in your thread?

«SpaceFM

1. SpaceFM is still strange for me, but it matter of choise.»

The reason of that choice is not evident. Absolutely not evident! The initial scope of the base system for a

really small and perfectly working linux

was described in that page http://www.slitaz.org/fr/doc/scratchbook/base-ncurses.html (and other parts of the Scratchbook) . They were no definitive choices made for more. Christophe did respect the sensibility and needs of all users: absolutely no kind of ballast in his mixture. An absolute minimal (hm, it was all the same heavy and fat as the also graphical Basic Linux did be contained at about the same time on 2 FD floppies!) linux but perfectly working.

That is the essence of SliTaz, not to try to become an NuTyx: NuTyx exists, with the same stuff, always in the most actual release...

Dear Kultex, you need SpaceFM, add it on top on the minimal base and erase the standard clex (not working correctly any more on all system: Error message «unable to connect with the keyboard»!)

Bad is to have to desinstall app's (you forget one: the actual computer since 10 y. and more are 64 bit). SliTaz offers only ONE unique 64 bit iso, not base, justX etc. SliTaz live in the past because SliTaz prefers computers beeing about so old as ZX81 or Commodore64! That is stupid: Today also 64 bit old computers are arriving on the desk of the users! Ok, they work also in 32 bit, but nobody would prefer the wrong system to the right one, it would be stupid, as you say...

# Aleksej @ Wed, 02 Aug 2017 12:26:31 UTC link

Here only alphabetical soup.
I do not see any good ideas here. Even if they were, they drowned in the soup.

Oui, please find a good use for your huge amount of free time.
Adieu.

# kultex @ Wed, 02 Aug 2017 15:56:21 UTC link

A splited 64 bit ISO is on the List for 6.0 and it was Christoph who did the package decison for 5.0 - Nobody else......

# oui @ Wed, 02 Aug 2017 21:03:59 UTC link

Hi Aleksej

«Oui, please find a good use for your huge amount of free time.»

I have free time because I select my jobs according to the importance...

The too numerous Iso's, as SliTaz produces since a number of years, are killer no. 1 of time!

For developers, probably, as for users ;-) . I am sorry Aleksej, you help, I know, as you can, but it is not the right way... More than one ISO pair (ISO itself and an new ISO 15 days after the first for bug error elimination) in 1/4 year IS (it is so!) nonsens pur... You are a victim of yourself probably...

# Aleksej @ Wed, 02 Aug 2017 21:30:46 UTC link

I mean, since you have a lot of free time, then you could use it to communicate your thoughts more clearly.

More than one ISO pair [skipped] in 1/4 year IS [skipped] nonsens pur...

SliTaz is not the same as it was in the beginning. I could even tell you that he is dead. But this is not so. It is gradually renewed by small forces.

In the end, I just do what I like :)
If I stop doing it, Pascal will stay. Alexander will remain... Hackdorte, Mojo and several other developers. SliTaz is not dead yet. He just fell asleep.

And you can not demand much from the sleeping SliTaz...

how to get LibreOffice to work

# Red @ Thu, 03 Aug 2017 21:31:42 UTC link

Hi

I'm using Slitaz 5.0 rc3 and installed LibreOffice using the Package Manager some how it doesn't work.
It does not show up in the office applications.
Not beeing held back by any real computer knowledge I looked for the LibreOffice package.
I found it in /usr/bin when I dubbelklick it I get the choices * execute ( if I klick on it nothing happens )
* execute in terminal ( if I klick on it I get a blackscreen and have no idea what to do )
* open ( if I klick on that I get the following and still no idea )

#!/bin/sh
# get-LibreOffice - install LibreOffice excl. KDE/Gnome integration & test suite.
#
# (C) 2010 SliTaz - GNU General Public License v3.
# Author : Ben Arnold <ben@seawolfsanctuary.com>
# via : get-OpenOffice3 (Eric Joseph-Alexandre <erjo@slitaz.org>)
#

PACKAGE="LibreOffice"
URL="http://www.libreoffice.org"
ROOT="$1"
DIR="stable"
SUFFIX="Linux_x86_rpm.tar.gz"
WGET_URL="http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/$DIR"

VERSION="$(basename $(wget -O - $WGET_URL/ 2> /dev/null |
sed '/href="[0-9]/!d;s/.*href="//;s/[/">].*//' | tail -1))"
if [ -z "$VERSION" ]; then
echo "Can't detect an appropriate version. The version numbering or URL may have changed. Aborted."
exit 0
fi
VER="${VERSION/-/}" # without hyphens

TARBALL="LibreOffice_${VER}_${SUFFIX}"

for LOC in ${LANG/_/-} ${LANG%_*}; do
L_SUFFIX="Linux_x86_rpm_langpack_$LOC.tar.gz"
L_TARBALL="LibreOffice_${VER}_${L_SUFFIX}"
LANG_URL="$WGET_URL/${VERSION}/rpm/x86/${L_TARBALL}"
busybox wget -s $LANG_URL 2> /dev/null || continue
echo "Added $LANG ($LOC)."
break
done
WGET_URL="$WGET_URL/${VERSION}/rpm/x86/${TARBALL}"

CUR_DIR=$(pwd)
TEMP_DIR="/tmp/$PACKAGE.$$"
SOURCE_DIR="/tmp/src.$$"
EXCLUDE="kde|gnome|test"
LOG="/tmp/$(basename $0 .sh).log"

# Status function with color (supported by Ash).
status()
{
local CHECK=$?
echo -en "33[70G[ "
if [ $CHECK = 0 ]; then
echo -en "33[1;33mOK"
else
echo -en "33[1;31mFailed"
fi
echo -e "33[0;39m ]"
return $CHECK
}

# Check if user is root to install, or remove packages.
check_root()
{
if test $(id -u) != 0 ; then
echo -e "nYou must be root to run basename $0 with this option."
echo -e "Please use 'su' and root password to become super-user.n"
exit 0
fi
}

check_if_installed()
{
# Avoid reinstall
if [ -d $ROOT/var/lib/tazpkg/installed/$PACKAGE ];then
return 0
else
return 1
fi
}

# We need to be root
check_root

# Check if package already installed
if (check_if_installed $PACKAGE); then
echo "$PACKAGE is already installed."
[ -n "$ROOT" ] && exit 0
echo -n "Would you like to remove and reinstall this package [y/n]? "
read answer
case "$answer" in
y|Y)
tazpkg remove $PACKAGE ;;
*)
exit 0 ;;
esac

fi

# Check if we have the tarball before.
if [ ! -f $SOURCE_DIR/$TARBALL ]; then
echo "Downloading LibreOffice tarball (it's time to have a break)... "
# Check if $SOURCE_DIR exist
test -d $SOURCE_DIR || mkdir -p $SOURCE_DIR
# Get the file.
wget -c $WGET_URL -O $SOURCE_DIR/$TARBALL
if [ -n $L_TARBALL ] ; then # Are we localised?
wget -c $LANG_URL -O $SOURCE_DIR/$L_TARBALL
fi
status

fi

if [ ! -f $SOURCE_DIR/$TARBALL ]; then
rm -rf $SOURCE_DIR
echo "Could not download $TARBALL. Exiting."
exit 1
fi

echo -n "Extracting files (this may take a while): "

# Creates TEMP_DIR and extract tarball
mkdir -p $TEMP_DIR
for TB in $TARBALL $L_TARBALL ; do
tar xvzf $SOURCE_DIR/$TB -C $TEMP_DIR > $LOG 2>&1 ||
(echo "Failed to extract $TB" ; exit 1)
done

# Get version found in archive (often directory is still RC version when final is present)
ARCHIVED_VERSION=cd $TEMP_DIR;find . -type d 2> /dev/null | grep LibreOffice | head -n 1 | sed 's/_/ /g' | awk '{print $2}'
echo -n "(found v${ARCHIVED_VERSION})"

# Consolidate localisations into main package
if [ -n $L_TARBALL ] ; then # Are we localised?
TARBALL_NAME="${TARBALL/.tar.gz/}"
L_TARBALL_NAME="${L_TARBALL/.tar.gz/}"
mv -f $TEMP_DIR/${L_TARBALL_NAME/$VERSION/$ARCHIVED_VERSION}/RPMS/*.rpm $TEMP_DIR/${TARBALL_NAME/$VERSION/$ARCHIVED_VERSION}/RPMS/
fi
status

# Extracted pkg can be removed: Save RAM
rm -rf $SOURCE_DIR

# Extract everything from RPMS
cd $TEMP_DIR/${TARBALL_NAME/$VERSION/$ARCHIVED_VERSION}/RPMS
for i in *.rpm
do
if (! echo $i | egrep -qi $EXCLUDE); then
echo -n "."
(rpm2cpio $i | cpio -id >> $LOG 2>&1 ) && rm -f $i
fi
done

#rpm2cpio desktop-integration/*freedesktop*.rpm | cpio -id >> $LOG 2>&1
#rpm2cpio *freedesktop*.rpm | cpio -id >> $LOG 2>&1

# extracted pkg can be removed: Save RAM
rm -f desktop-integration/*freedesktop*.rpm

status
echo -n "Preparing package... "

# Make the package
mkdir -p $PACKAGE-$VERSION/fs/usr/lib/libreoffice
$PACKAGE-$VERSION/fs/usr/share

# use mv instead of 'cp -a' to save RAM
mv opt/libreoffice* $PACKAGE-$VERSION/fs/usr/lib
mv usr/share/mime $PACKAGE-$VERSION/fs/usr/share
mv usr/share/icons $PACKAGE-$VERSION/fs/usr/share
mv usr/bin $PACKAGE-$VERSION/fs/usr

# relocalized libexec directory
bin=$(echo $PACKAGE-$VERSION/fs/usr/bin/libreoffice???)
if [ -L $bin ]; then
target=$(readlink $bin)
rm -f $bin
ln -s ${target/opt/usr/lib/libreoffice} $bin
else
sed -i 's#/opt/#/usr/lib/libreoffice/#' $bin
fi

# Create receipt
cat > $PACKAGE-$VERSION/receipt <<EOT
# SliTaz package receipt.

PACKAGE="$PACKAGE"
VERSION="$VERSION"
CATEGORY="office"
SHORT_DESC="Productivity suite."
DEPENDS="java6-jre cups"
WEB_SITE="$URL"

post_install()
{
ln -sf /usr/lib/libreoffice?* /usr/lib/libreoffice
path_libreoffice=$(find /usr/lib/libreoffice -name libreoffice*.*)

# Remove links if exist
rm -f /usr/share/applications/libreoffice-*

# Create links
cd /usr/share/applications
ln -sf $path_libreoffice/share/xdg/base.desktop libreoffice-base.desktop
ln -sf $path_libreoffice/share/xdg/impress.desktop libreoffice-impress.desktop
ln -sf $path_libreoffice/share/xdg/writer.desktop libreoffice-writer.desktop
ln -sf $path_libreoffice/share/xdg/calc.desktop libreoffice-calc.desktop
ln -sf $path_libreoffice/share/xdg/math.desktop libreoffice-math.desktop
ln -sf $path_libreoffice/share/xdg/draw.desktop libreoffice-draw.desktop

chmod +x $path_libreoffice/share/xdg/*.desktop

# If necessary, recreate links for soffice
rm -f /usr/bin/soffice /usr/bin/libreoffice
ln -sf $path_libreoffice/program/soffice /usr/bin/libreoffice
ln -sf $path_libreoffice/program/soffice /usr/bin/soffice
}

post_remove()
{
rm -f /usr/share/applications/libreoffice-*
}

EOT
status

# Pack
tazpkg pack $PACKAGE-$VERSION

# Clean to save RAM memory
rm -rf $PACKAGE-$VERSION

# Install pseudo package
tazpkg install $PACKAGE-$VERSION.tazpkg --root=$ROOT
case " $@ " in
* --k*) mv $PACKAGE-$VERSION.tazpkg $CUR_DIR ;;
esac

# Clean
cd $CUR_DIR
rm -rf $TEMP_DIR

# Aleksej @ Thu, 03 Aug 2017 22:44:32 UTC link

Hi Red,

You can install latest LibreOffice from the SliTaz Next repository.
LibreOffice from this site is compatible with the SliTaz-5 series.

  1. Follow link to visit download page: http://cook.slitaz.org/next/LibreOffice/download
  2. Download the LibreOffice itself package (the biggest, 106.9MB package file) to your machine. Note, the package is big and need some amount of time to download.
  3. You can also download some langpacks (LibreOffice interface translations and dictionary). Note, I don't make Netherland langpack yet, but can make it for you if you want.
  4. On this step I advice you to remove old LibreOffice package (not necessarily, but desirable).
  5. Install new package(s) you download by double clicking them, entering root password, and pressing "Install" button. Note, package is big and required some time to installing...

That's all.
I tested it right now in my SliTaz-5-based distro, and it works well.

# Red @ Sat, 05 Aug 2017 07:37:11 UTC link

Thanks for the advice Aleksej.
I down loaded the package, removed the ,, old " one, dubble clicked on the new one and clickt on install.
It all seemed to work fine, it took some time to install but if I check the packagelist it's there.
So far so good, but how do I get it to work ?
It doesn't show up anywere. If I try to open a spreadsheet, don't get the option LibreOffice calc.

Red

# kultex @ Sat, 05 Aug 2017 10:43:43 UTC link

you can try as root:

find / -name "libreoffice"

normally it should be somewhere in /urs/bin

Launchers should be:

Writer: /usr/bin/libreoffice -writer
Calc: /usr/bin/libreoffice -calc
Draw: /usr/bin/libreoffice -draw
Impress: /usr/bin/libreoffice -impress
Math: /usr/bin/libreoffice -math

# Aleksej @ Sat, 05 Aug 2017 11:42:03 UTC link

Hi there!

The list of all files (huge) is included, of course: http://cook.slitaz.org/next/LibreOffice/files

LibreOffice is installed to /opt/libreoffice5.4/ folder.

Binary is /usr/bin/libreoffice5.4 that is symlink to -> /opt/libreoffice5.4/program/soffice

Desktop files are:

/usr/share/applications/libreoffice5.4-base.desktop
/usr/share/applications/libreoffice5.4-calc.desktop
/usr/share/applications/libreoffice5.4-draw.desktop
/usr/share/applications/libreoffice5.4-impress.desktop
/usr/share/applications/libreoffice5.4-math.desktop
/usr/share/applications/libreoffice5.4-qstart.desktop
/usr/share/applications/libreoffice5.4-startcenter.desktop
/usr/share/applications/libreoffice5.4-writer.desktop
/usr/share/applications/libreoffice5.4-xsltfilter.desktop

Icons are in /usr/share/icons/hicolor/

MIME data in /usr/share/mime/packages/libreoffice5.4.xml

To solve problem step-by-step, first, please run in your terminal:

libreoffice5.4

It warns about Java not installed: it required for LibreOffice extensions, and LibreOffice itself works without it. And the main window of LibreOffice opens for me. What about you? Is it shows something else than mine?—

lexeii@slitaz:~$ libreoffice5.4
javaldx: Could not find a Java Runtime Environment!
Warning: failed to read path from javaldx

# Red @ Sun, 06 Aug 2017 08:29:14 UTC link

I started my post with,, not beeing held back by any real computer knowlege " so most of this is dubble dutch to me.

But I typed libreoffice5.4 in the Sakura terminal, and his is the result

tux@slitaz:~$ libreoffice5.4
/bin/sh: libreoffice5.4: not found
tux@slitaz:~$

there is no libreoffice 5.4 anywere
not in mime packages
not in applications
not in bin

according to the package manger it's installed

Red

# kultex @ Sun, 06 Aug 2017 09:41:53 UTC link

open sakura terminal and get root:

find / -name "libreoffice" >result.txt

and attach result.txt

# Aleksej @ Sun, 06 Aug 2017 10:40:50 UTC link

Hi Red,

So, you claim that none of these files are in the system?
http://cook.slitaz.org/next/LibreOffice/files#LibreOffice

No folder /opt/libreoffice5.4, no file /usr/bin/libreoffice5.4, no menu files in /usr/share/applications?..

Looks like some bad technical problems. Let's say, the free space in your hard disk was over. And when files are extracted from the package, they was discarded.

According to this info LibreOffice package need 422 MB of free space to install. Note, the package itself is 107 MB, and it is also on the hard disk (and also in the cache, I can't recall).

I'm using Slitaz 5.0 rc3

Or maybe you use it like Live CD on the system with small RAM. Acting in live mode, all the files are resides in the RAM, and your free RAM is ended... Looks like?

So I advice you to install SliTaz on the hard disk.

Or maybe, you already installed your SliTaz to the hard disk, but allocated a little space for "baby" SliTaz. In reality, 3 - 5 - 10 GB or even more will be perfect if you want to use SliTaz more, and to install programs.

Ah, output of next command will show the space available for root file system:

df -h /

What it says for you?

Or, maybe SliTaz 5.0 RC3 has a terrible problems?
(I think, better to remove all that RC's from the server to not to fool people's head; leaving only "weekly stable" rolling ISOs).

-----------------

Hi Thomas,

Your command will not find anyone file from that package. But you probably have your own goals. So, just draw your attention.

-----------------

Have a nice day for all of you guys!
(it looks like less warmer than yesterday)

# rerivero @ Sun, 06 Aug 2017 13:03:25 UTC link

You can test this in SliTaz 5 on my 4.0 it works ok.
http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/get-libreoffice-patched#post-44697

# aniguenni @ Sun, 06 Aug 2017 22:33:45 UTC link

@Red

Why you don't try the much more powerful http://www.freeoffice.com/en/ ?
It's easy to install and works like a charme.
The FreeOffice works fantastically with files made and formatted in Microsoft Office. It’s loss-free.
System requirements: Windows 10, Windows 8, Windows 7, Vista, Windows XP or any PC-based Linux (32 or 64 bits)

...why not - give it a try and enjoy ;-)

# Aleksej @ Sun, 06 Aug 2017 22:57:43 UTC link

Hi aniguenni,

Softmaker's FreeOffice isn't bad at all. But I not sure Red will be able to install it without any computer knowledge. And I can't make the SliTaz package with it because I doubt I can redistribute it at all. Seems, here we need yet another get-script.

(And why I not use it — it still missed formula support. And my papers are simply overflowing with formulas. Like this one:)

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# Red @ Mon, 07 Aug 2017 07:21:35 UTC link

Oke Aleksej, you caught me redhanded.

I have been using Slitaz live eversinds my harddrive broke down.
I wanted persisting changes so I installed Slitaz on a sdcard ( with the help of Ceel )
Slitaz beeing verry small, I used a 1GB sdcard.
So you remark makes sense.
My mistake ( I'm the monkey that has'n learned the trick yet ) I'm not sure I have time to make an other
sdcard this week, bussy at work and a lot of try and error to get card working, but I let the results know
as soon as possible

Thanks so far

Red

# kultex @ Mon, 07 Aug 2017 10:04:43 UTC link

Aleksej you are right - thats the correct question

find / -name "libreoffice*" >result.txt or find / -name "*office*" >result.txt

and I think, we can make a freeoffice.tazpkg, because they give it often to CDs in computermagazines and it is/was also part of fluxflux distribution - https://fluxflux.net/?p=541

# Red @ Tue, 08 Aug 2017 21:43:38 UTC link

Well I found some time, and the installation of Slitaz on a sdcard wend right the first time (I'm learning )
I downloaded the package and installed it, now it shows up, so far so good.......but
If I click on an icon, the LibreOffice logo shows up for 1 second and a little round thing is there for some
30 seconds and that's it.
This happens with write, calc, impress etc.

If I type df -h / in the terminal this is the result

tux@slitaz:~$ df -h /
Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/root 3.6G 915.2M 2.6G 26% /

If I type LibreOffice 5.4 in the terminal this is the result

tux@slitaz:~$ libreoffice5.4
javaldx: Could not find a Java Runtime Environment!
Warning: failed to read path from javaldx
/opt/libreoffice5.4/program/soffice.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libcups.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

It's a bit different from your's, looks like something is missing.
Should I reinstall LibreOffice ?
Or do you have some magic trick to fix it.

Red

# Aleksej @ Tue, 08 Aug 2017 21:47:49 UTC link

Hi Red,

The solution should be very simple — you need to install "libcups" package.

# Red @ Wed, 09 Aug 2017 07:13:11 UTC link

Yes ! it works!

Thanks Aleksej

Red

# Aleksej @ Wed, 09 Aug 2017 07:24:15 UTC link

Nice to hear it :)

Have a nice day.

Installation error

# MegageM @ Fri, 04 Aug 2017 11:30:00 UTC link

When i want to enter in a SliTaz Live or change the language, apears a error. The screen fill by dots and i cant do anything.
Someone can help me? (sorry for my english, i am spanish)

# Ceel @ Fri, 04 Aug 2017 21:38:01 UTC link

Maybe your ISO was corrupted; download it again and do another Live (CD or USB ?)

What ISO do you use? What version of SliTaz?
What about your computer (proc, RAM...)?

# MegageM @ Sat, 05 Aug 2017 11:19:19 UTC link

I boot my USB with Universal Usb Installer, version 4.0.
Mi laptop its old:
CPU: Intel Atom 1.6 GHz
RAM: 1 GB

# Ceel @ Sat, 05 Aug 2017 19:50:47 UTC link

I suppose as a lot of installers UUI let you choose between the last stable distro from the web or an ISO file on your HD.

Choose from HD. Previously, download

# Ceel @ Sat, 05 Aug 2017 20:02:51 UTC link

As you run windows, you can also try this way to create a LiveUSB:
http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/slitaz-live-flash-drive-usb-installation-fails#post-43968

or this one
http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/no-way-to-run-from-usb-without-already-having-slitaz-or-windows-many-missing-out#post-44904

# LienRag @ Thu, 10 Aug 2017 19:06:30 UTC link

Last week I installed Slitaz 5 on a computer with 960 Mo of RAM (I had never seen a RAM between 512 Ko and 1024 Ko but that was the number that Windows' control panel showed) and it ran really fast, so the limited capacities of your computer is not the problem here.

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Youtube Live Streaming

# ckl036 @ Sat, 05 Aug 2017 16:37:15 UTC link

I am trying to watch live video stream from Youtube (e.g. DW News Live) with Slitaz 5.0 latest cooking installation to HDD. Anyway, still no luck with all the 3 below options:

# VLC 2.2.3 - VLC could not decode the format "mpgv" (MPEG-1/2 Video)
# Firefox Official 54.0.1 (32-bit) - Your browser does not currently recognize any of the video formats available. - https://www.youtube.com/html5 "H.264" & "MSE & H.264" not supported
# Midori 0.5.2 - https://www.youtube.com/html5 "Media Source Extensions", "MSE & H.264" & "MSE & WebM VP9" not supported

---

Anyone has any success using the above or any other options?

# I-Jurij @ Sat, 05 Aug 2017 19:05:36 UTC link

midori 0.5.9 from slackware work fine with
mpv 0.24 build from scratch (ffmpeg is into it)
May be not for all media :(

# ckl036 @ Sun, 06 Aug 2017 07:29:31 UTC link

Thanks @I-Jurij.

I downloaded and installed both midori-slackware-0.5.9.tazpkg & mpv-0.24.0-p.tazpkg. Still no luck, https://www.youtube.com/html5 shows that "Media Source Extensions", "MSE & H.264" & "MSE & WebM VP9" not supported. And, not able to view "DW News Live" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yt3HsaIEhM

# I-Jurij @ Sun, 06 Aug 2017 11:58:13 UTC link

Yes, midori not play this (may be webkit has no support for this media?).
But palemoon 27.4 play https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yt3HsaIEhM
And firefoxESR 45.9 too (and with official slitaz ffmpeg 2.8.10).

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# ckl036 @ Mon, 07 Aug 2017 13:21:03 UTC link

thanks again, yes palemoon 27 works for me as well

# ckl036 @ Tue, 08 Aug 2017 06:01:38 UTC link

I was getting the live streaming with palemoon 27, it played for few seconds then stopped. I thought it was my network issue. I tried again just now, still no good. will try other options later.

# roadkill13 @ Fri, 25 Aug 2017 04:28:46 UTC link

I am viewing youtube videos using MPS-Youtube which is a python3 cli application. I am using VLC as the player. I installed the necessary python3 packages from Slitaz Panel along with VLC. I used PIP to install youtub-dl and mps-youtube. It works very well.

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APP to configure the network (nat-firewall) which router

# gabrirusti @ Sun, 06 Aug 2017 10:24:33 UTC link

Does anyone know if exist an application for this system that can configure the network (ip-nat-firewall) via the web interface?
(Like a router)

thank you

# gabrirusti @ Mon, 07 Aug 2017 10:07:25 UTC link

some help?

# kultex @ Mon, 07 Aug 2017 12:15:38 UTC link

slitaz has very minimal firewall and no webinterface

http://doc.slitaz.org/en:handbook:networkconf?s=linux&s=netfilter#manage-the-firewall-firewall-using-iptables

you could try to download the rpm or deb and convert it with tazpkg convert...

http://www.fwbuilder.org/4.0/docs/firewall_builder_packages.shtml

https://sourceforge.net/projects/fwbuilder/files/Current_Packages/5.1.0/fwbuilder-5.1.0.3599-1.suse11.3.i586.rpm/download

https://sourceforge.net/projects/fwbuilder/files/Current_Packages/5.1.0/fwbuilder_5.1.0.3599-ubuntu-precise-1_i386.deb/download

no idea, if it will work

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Base and JustX flavors have a limited use

# Ceel @ Wed, 09 Aug 2017 15:56:26 UTC link

Hi all,

  1. Base and JustX don't allow to use Wi-Fi
    Kernel modules linux-crypto and linux-wireless and packages libcrypto, libssl, libnl, expat, xorg-libXau, xorg-libXdmcp, libxcb, xorg-libX11, xorg-libICE, xorg-libSM, dbus, pcsc-lite, wpa_supplicant and wireless_tools (hope I didn't forget anyone) are missing.
    This makes impossible to implement wifi from a live Base/JustX.
  2. No access to NTFS partitions
    Because ntfs-3g package is not installed on this 2 flavors.
    This is easier to solve, if you have access to the internet of course ;-)

Is it a voluntary choice of SliTaz?
Yet it doesn't take more place in the 4in1 ISO if these packages were in rootfs4.gz.

# Aleksej @ Wed, 09 Aug 2017 19:36:58 UTC link

Hi Ceel,

Next the some spontaneous thoughts (caused by this hot evening and glass of the cool beer).

I think too that we should review the flavors contents. What we have now?

Entire idea of 4-in-1 russian dolls is great. And while I see no sense in flavors other than smallest base and biggest core, some SliTaz users here, on the forum, claims that core flavor is not need, is overhead, and other words... That SliTaz-3 was the best, while SliTaz-4 was break the TAZ idea and can not calls SliTaz at all.

Hmm, some people use gtkonly. Well... But did anyone use justx? It is doubtful, IMHO.
Justx is useful only as basis for other custom flavors.

To continue, I think we should review use-cases for the flavors.

base.
The flavor for the SliTaz server-side infrastructure — for the servers that serves slitaz.org, hg.slitaz.org, cook.slitaz.org... I doubt they need Wi-Fi or NTFS at all.

justx.
Unusable in the current conditions. May be used as base for other flavors that not use GTK. Please correct me.

gtkonly.
Semi-unusable reduced version of the core flavor. It missed any web-browser, so our shiny TazPanel not work here, and we should write other GUIs (Yad-based) for configuring the system. IMHO it's the overhead. Please correct me again.

core.
May be it was good balanced choice in SliTaz-4 times, but it has some pitfalls now.
To be more user-friendly we should add here more drivers. But then ISO size will grow significantly, and the small ISO size is the dead end, alas.

For example, on the some hardware (you may find it here on the old topics) we need some specific video-card drivers to work. It just not works with the default (VESA-based?) video driver. And it will be good to add different video-drivers to ISO.

At least we provide terminal-based tool to install different video-drivers. It is good, but seems terminal-session not works on that equipment too. And, more to say, we need to rise internet (in most cases, Wi-Fi) as you rightly remarked in the terminal session. For example, my Wi-Fi card needs additional firmware (b43) that not exists even in form of packages. SliTaz is Linux distro for geeks exclusively, isn't is looks like?

So, as you can see, I have no solution.

In addition, SliTaz is claimed to be Linux distro for old hardware. Seems like (unreleased) SliTaz-5 will satisfy this claim. I working on updating the packages to the actual versions, and while it also is light-as-it-can-be, it will not be intended to use with the old hardware...

# Ceel @ Thu, 10 Aug 2017 21:45:06 UTC link

Hi Aleksej,

Lucky man! 19° today and only 18° tomorrow, stormy weather :( Don't need a cool beer but rather a hot coffee.

I see no sense in flavors other than smallest base and biggest core

I agree with this point of view but it is not really impartial: I only use these 2 flavors :)
I

So you're probably right when you say "I think we should review use-cases for the flavors" but I'm not a reference...

Entire idea of 4-in-1 russian dolls is great.

Maybe but I think 4-in-1 should be a flavor and Core the stable release. This would avoid problems with installers like UNetBootin or others and would be more accessible and understandable for newcomers to Linux. But here too, it's only my opinion and don't worry, I won't leave SliTaz if this doesn't change :)

SliTaz-3 was the best, while SliTaz-4 was break the TAZ idea

I don't share entirely this: SliTaz 2 was the true spirit of SliTaz, SliTaz 3 brought Xorg (even if it never ran on my work computer... That's live) and SliTaz 4 brought "officialy" the russian dolls (they already existed with SliTaz 3 but as a flavor). Does SliTaz 4 break the TAZ idea? I wouldn't say this.

SliTaz is claimed to be Linux distro for old hardware .../... I working on updating the packages to the actual versions, and while it also is light-as-it-can-be, it will not be intended to use with the old hardware...

Well, on this point I think we have to do the difference between "old hardware" and "really too old hardware".
I use old computers but they are all at least pentium 4 (that is already too old, I really have to think about changing). Who would want to install Linux on a 386 or 486?
To access to the entire RAM of my work computer I've had to active the PAE so change from i486 to i686 arch (if my memory serves me well). This ISO works perfectly well but... when a package of SliTaz's repository need to install a module (as virtualbox-ose pkg) some error messages are displayed at installation because the module is not compiled with the "good" architecture and of course it doesn't work; think to this for SliTaz Next ;-)

Why I needed to mount a NTFS partition and have the Wi-Fi working?
Because, as you, I need a driver for my Wi-Fi card that mojo compiled for me (thank's again mojo! I didn't imagine it would serve me as much) and this driver is stored on a NTFS disk... (I can't change this) and for a week I can connect to the internet only via a modem 4G with Wi-Fi.
As I always have a 4-in-1 ISO with me, I started to create a new ISO with http://pizza.slitaz.org/
So finally, all is going fine for me :)

# kultex @ Fri, 11 Aug 2017 08:35:39 UTC link

I need justx for my audioservers, where I just show the titels of the songs on the screen. They are running fine in RAM on fujitsu futros with 128 MB Ram - gtk-only for me is not very useful, but maybe it is for somebody useful - so I think we can leave it.

And I agree with Ceel, that core should be the main iso - it should be possible, that SliTaz works with rufus or others.

I think we should have 5 main isos to download

1) small core
2) small core low ram
3) big core (with all video drivers, cups, wifi firmwares)
4) big core low ram
5) russian dolls

I think, this would increase SliTAz users....

and Ceel - Pentium4 must to the recycling - they consume much to much energy. A raspberry can do the same work a P4

# Aleksej @ Fri, 11 Aug 2017 13:41:54 UTC link

Hi there,

I like your activity. Like in old good times...

Ceel > Lucky man!

Actually, no :) Too much, like too little - it's bad.
30-34°C for near 10 days forecast, 17-22° at night.
My thermometer is now at the sun, and it just went mad, of course. Normally we can work only at night...

Ceel > I think 4-in-1 should be a flavor and Core the stable release.
kultex > I agree with Ceel

Agreed too. Anytime in the past I wanted to try new Rolling ISO I've downloaded Core flavor, extracted ramdisk (rootfs.gz) from it and added few lines in the boot loader. It's easier with the single ramdisk. And yes, sometimes it's the one possible way for some installers.

Ceel > we have to do the difference between "old hardware" and "really too old hardware".
Ceel > Who would want to install Linux on a 386 or 486?

Isn't it the SliTaz mission? :)

I hope you'll agree with me that we may leave such mission for SliTaz v. 1-5, and move forward with upcoming version. May we switch to i686 in the SliTaz Next? I never even tried this.

Ceel > Why I needed to mount a NTFS partition

Oh my... It's really small to add it in: http://cook.slitaz.org/next/ntfs-3g
Instead we may remove the Beaver (finally) and Cookutils (that anyway useless without the full toolchain), and maybe something also...

kultex > 3) big core (with all video drivers, cups, wifi firmwares)

The only we need to invent yet another sexy word like the core for it, and to reconsider the whole packages list for it.

---
PS. And I want to share something interesting with you :)

My multi-rootfs live USB works well (it even helped me to "kick away" Petya the wiper out from the office desktops), so...

To use LibreOffice on the Live USB it's possible to consider LibreOffice package file as cpio archive - to extract "fs.cpio.lzma" from it. Then to copy/rename this "fs.cpio.lzma" near the rootfs[1-4].gz files (that are really cpio.lzma archives too) and to add new entry to the menu.lst (isolinux.cfg).

That's all. All we need is RAM enough.

Now I think we may to separate some packages also that don't required frequently (installer, partition manages, etc.) into separate "layer".

# kultex @ Fri, 11 Aug 2017 16:16:52 UTC link

I am against changing to 686 - especially non Intel Hardware like Via or Geode CPUs are not fully 686 compatible. They are energy efficiant but Need 586.......

And I love your idea of another layer - all not often used programs should not be extracted during boot - only when they are needed.

# Aleksej @ Sun, 13 Aug 2017 23:03:10 UTC link

Hi there,

I am against changing to 686 ...

Valued note. Let it be i486 for a while.

---

It turns that I fooled you in my PS.

I used handmade cpio.lzma archive with LibreOffice as another layer in the rootfs*.gz sequence. But I was wrong that we can use fs.cpio.lzma extracted from the tazpkg package. It adds extra "/fs" prefix, so executable goes into /fs/use/bin/ instead of /use/bin/, and so on.

My apologies. Maybe symlink /fs -> / will fix the whole situation, don't know...

# Ceel @ Wed, 16 Aug 2017 16:31:55 UTC link

Hi,

I am against changing to 686

Valued note. Let it be i486 for a while.

Ok, you are more numerous than me... it is democracy ;)

@ Aleksej,

You said we should add more drivers to the core ISO; what about to have the possibility to use a touchscreen?

And kultex is right, we must keep the low ram ISOs.

# Aleksej @ Wed, 16 Aug 2017 17:14:16 UTC link

Hi Ceel,

Ok, you are more numerous than me... it is democracy ;)

:D
It's easier to postpone it for later.
I use Archlinux PKGBUILDS when I get into a blind corner, and I see there only "i686" and "x86_64". But well...

what about to have the possibility to use a touchscreen?

linux-input-touchscreen-4.9.30.tazpkg exists: http://cook.slitaz.org/next/linux/
So nothing prevents it from being included in the image.
But sorry, I can't release even simpler ISO now.

Bug in http://pizza.slitaz.me/

# Ceel @ Fri, 11 Aug 2017 13:38:21 UTC link

Pizza cannot neither search nor add packages whose name contains the letter "R".
ie: search "grub", Pizza search for "gub" (and won't find any packages); add "grub" and Pizza will add "gub"...

And http://pizza.slitaz.me/ is restricted to version 4 :(

EDIT: Same in Flavor name, Short description and Email

# Aleksej @ Fri, 11 Aug 2017 14:11:44 UTC link

Hi Ceel,

Looks like the bad filtering for the 'r' symbol.
Maybe old /usr/lib/slitaz/httphelper.sh there.

I think only Pascal might to help with it.

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busybox updated to 1.27.1 on pangolin ('busybox httpd -d' was buggy with 1.18.4)

# Ceel @ Thu, 17 Aug 2017 16:59:45 UTC link

Thanks Bellard.

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I agree, because Stardict isn't a very good shaped application (bad interface, poor dictionnaries management ...)
I've just installed Goldendict, from Debian repositories.
1- go to Debian Repositorie, and donwload the i386 version (bottom of this page) :

https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/goldendict

2- under Slitaz
open a terminal where you've donwloaded the Debian package, type :
tazpkg convert [file name with .DEB extension]
3- install the new tazpkg :
sudo tazpkg install [file name with tazpkg extension]
That's all !
But now you have to find dictionnaries ;-)

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slitaz - why so long ?

# moulefrite @ Sat, 19 Aug 2017 05:21:11 UTC link

Slitaz 5 was expected to be released 4-5 years ago .. can u tell me whats happening ?

Is the current kernel used is stable ? Sometimes my system completely freeze. How can i have a track/log of the origin of the problem ?

# kultex @ Sat, 19 Aug 2017 09:10:08 UTC link

if you look in hg http://hg.slitaz.org/?sort=lastchange there is almost only Aleksej and Pascal left as developers. For a complex distribution like SliTAz this too little. I am very happy, that SliTaz is still alive.

The kernel of 5.0 is quite old, but still supported - for me it is working quite well on my old hardware - I have some newer machines and there I dont use SliTaz, because the old kernel doen not support the hardware.

Aleksej is working on 6.0 and I hope, there is first testing iso in the end of summer beginning of autumn - http://cook.slitaz.org/next/ - the kernel will be 4.9 - maybe for newer Intel Atoms there will be a special 4.11 kernel.

# Aleksej @ Sat, 19 Aug 2017 16:38:27 UTC link

Hi moulefrite,

How I see the situation (absolutely IMHO):

Pankso (Christophe Lincoln), founder of SliTaz, was very keen on yoga (you can find it in socials).
He said all he wanted to say in the SliTaz project, and he released his “offspring” to freedom.

But it so happened that besides him no one wants to write the texts for the project.
To write programs - of course, please.
To make packages - not a question, really.

Releasing splits into some parts: making RCs, final testing, freezing repository, rebuilding all the packages, providing mirror resources, writing and translating release notes.

Seems like just anyone here don't want to write release notes.

SliTaz-5 exists right now. But it's unreleased. And now it calls SliTaz-Rolling.
You can obtain it from mirror: http://mirror1.slitaz.org/iso/rolling/

# DennisD @ Mon, 21 Aug 2017 15:49:11 UTC link

@Aleksej

> Seems like just anyone here don't want to write release notes.

I have been looking for a new project to help with. I am a Tech Writer by trade so notes, blog posts, and etc are right up my alley.

Let me know how I can help.

# Aleksej @ Mon, 21 Aug 2017 21:44:16 UTC link

Hi Dennis,

If you see it necessary, it may look like previous release notes you may found here:
http://www.slitaz.org/en/doc/releases/4.0/relnotes.en.html

The problem is so many years passed, and while anyone can track every change using http://hg.slitaz.org , this work is not the most interesting on earth.

Another (weak) the sources of info are: socials @fb and @twitter, http://scn.slitaz.org/ , mailing list archives: https://listengine.tuxfamily.org/lists.tuxfamily.org/slitaz/ , and of course this forum.

(Anyway, I found this is very boring.)

# lm2 @ Sun, 27 Aug 2017 19:46:45 UTC link

hi,

firstly thanks to aleksej and pascal making slitaz reborn again..

yes, i'm gonna disturb you :

for help we have only this place, which is a little bit silent answers..

i still have personnaly few problems about :
wifi tool, which is not good at all when we have to switch between ssid..
suspend tool, no way out of root/cli
uefi, no comment

..and the latest stable is 4.0, which is 4-5 yrs late, and somebody is working on..6, before making stable the 5th?

in fact, we know you're working hard for us, but general public, interested geeks can't have a real good image of slitaz... latest is a RC since years, not stable, hard to be in touch with devs.. it's something..

is it possible to have one way to be in touch in the 24/48hrs with pascal/aleksej?
it's really something that slitaz have to come back on : allow users to talk directly with devs, like other distro..

forum, mail, irc, just be available few minutes of a day to answer users requests... does slitaz want to have a strong beloved community?

:)

# Aleksej @ Sun, 27 Aug 2017 21:23:33 UTC link

> hi,

hi

> firstly thanks to aleksej and pascal

nothing @ all, kind sir.

> this place, which is a little bit silent answers..

ah, yes. im frequently here, but i can only answer "i dont know" on the most of the questions, but i find it's very silly.

> i still have personnaly few problems

i doubt slitaz will solve them

> and somebody is working on..6, before making stable the 5th?

oh you know, slitaz for takes me some nostalgic feelings, as it was few years ago... also it's my main system. but I want to try some modern softwares. here, on slitaz. in reality that's all. i dont want to release anything. but i can tell it certainly will be not five. i called it "next". without numbering. seems it will be the "last"...

> is it possible to have one way to be in touch in the 24/48hrs with pascal/aleksej?

if i know the answer - i write it, otherwise i dont make any noise.

> does slitaz want

oh, where's the spirit of slitaz now...

# lm2 @ Sun, 27 Aug 2017 22:07:15 UTC link

only two to manage one distro..

no way..

# lm2 @ Sun, 27 Aug 2017 22:10:38 UTC link

...or just being present on the irc, to answer as a chat?

# hackdorte @ Fri, 01 Sep 2017 18:07:07 UTC link

@@ A draft here: http://doc.slitaz.org/relnotes

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Problem for install Opera

# Daniel8 @ Sat, 19 Aug 2017 21:11:07 UTC link

Hello,

i try of install opera in root of course, but it not works...

thanks for the help

# Aleksej @ Sun, 20 Aug 2017 02:56:02 UTC link

Hello,

Too few details. Unable to help.

# Daniel8 @ Mon, 21 Aug 2017 21:16:14 UTC link

but the question is simple ^^

It is marked as installed but opera is inaccessible in the menu ... same after reboot.

it was for try this web bowser...

but i have find a other web browser lite and very effective :)

# Aleksej @ Mon, 21 Aug 2017 21:29:38 UTC link

Hmm...

You may use SliTaz-4 (you may believe it is "stable" and choose it), or
You may use one of SliTaz-5RC (you may believe it is "current" SliTaz and choose it), or
You may use some of SliTaz-Rolling (IMHO, the only right choice).

You may use Live CD / Live USB, or
You may install SliTaz on your HDD.

You may install Opera package using terminal, or
You may install Opera using TazPanel/packages...

You may install Opera using "get-opera" package, or
You may install Opera using "get-opera-blink" package, or
You may install Opera using one of the official Opera binary package from the vendor.

So your question is simple, but answer still unavailable.
Sorry.

# Daniel8 @ Mon, 21 Aug 2017 21:48:44 UTC link

sorry, i have the last release of SlitaZ rolling and i have try of installed with Tazpanel

# Aleksej @ Mon, 21 Aug 2017 22:09:41 UTC link

I did not just write various other options.
For example, if you use SliTaz like Live system, and your machine haven't quite big amount of RAM, or your SliTaz image is big, the memory may end. And if you use Live system, it not used persistence, so it's not worth to find installed applications after rebooting.

If you installed SliTaz on HDD, the free space may end on it too. And you'll not feel it in any way.

Installing Opera using "get-opera" get-script includes the running "get-opera" script after the package "get-opera" installed. TazPanel may run it automatically, or may not, I can't recall. You may try to re-install it using root terminal and command "get-opera".

Or you may use "get-opera-blink" package with "get-opera-blink" get-script...

---

* get-script is a shell script that helps you to download some "official" binary package provided by the vendor, to convert it to the SliTaz package format, and to install it.

# kultex @ Tue, 22 Aug 2017 13:00:24 UTC link

Start opera with the Terminal.......

If it does not start - get root

find / -name "*opera*"

And try to start it - maybe its in /bin or /sbin........

# Daniel8 @ Tue, 22 Aug 2017 21:14:35 UTC link

thanks, i will try soon :)

standby mode to turn off slitaz

# Daniel8 @ Sat, 19 Aug 2017 21:18:52 UTC link

Hello,

Why there is no standby mode to turn off slitaz ?

it's very useful.

thanks

# Daniel8 @ Mon, 21 Aug 2017 21:24:13 UTC link

I can pause the screen, yes, but not computer.

maybe be than it's for the memory and so that slitaz is not slowed down after.

# kultex @ Tue, 22 Aug 2017 13:13:05 UTC link

Slitaz is small - everything you Need you have to configure yourself

You have to install acpi and configure it

http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/powermanagement-swap#post-39618

Maybe this thread helps

# Daniel8 @ Tue, 22 Aug 2017 21:24:20 UTC link

thank you very much, but it's not easy to understand but i will try

# Daniel8 @ Fri, 25 Aug 2017 21:48:49 UTC link

i have installed acpib but after what to do please ?
i don't see the software..

and after where i can find the file ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml ?

it's difficult to understand for a beginner as me ^^;

# kultex @ Fri, 25 Aug 2017 23:49:13 UTC link

Here you will find good instructions

http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:start

first install cpu frquency scaling:

http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:cpu-frequency

hidden files you can find with pcmanfm - with strg+h you make hidden files visible or invisible

# lm2 @ Sun, 27 Aug 2017 19:35:51 UTC link

you can use pm-utils, with :
pm-suspend

to suspend to STR your computer.

by the way, we are expecting from slitaz a patch for all version to allow common user (aka non root) to be able to suspend the computer (not in command line if possible)

regards

# Daniel8 @ Sun, 27 Aug 2017 21:06:55 UTC link

Thank you very much, and where i can find pm-utils please ?

# lm2 @ Sun, 27 Aug 2017 21:10:11 UTC link

tazpkg get-install pm-utils

(in cli/command line interface, or maybe package manager)

# Daniel8 @ Sun, 27 Aug 2017 21:28:10 UTC link

thanks

# Daniel8 @ Mon, 28 Aug 2017 11:41:37 UTC link

How i can launch please ?

i don't find in applications...

# kultex @ Mon, 28 Aug 2017 13:06:54 UTC link

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pm-utils

# lm2 @ Mon, 28 Aug 2017 21:00:41 UTC link

>How i can launch please ?

>i don't find in applications...

unfortunately, it wont appear in application : it's a non-intuitive command line tool, so you will have to open the terminal (eg xterm) to use it, in root only;

waiting from slitaz devs to find like an app/shortcut to make it available by clicking (no cli) without being root (nice idea, like on win/mac)

# Daniel8 @ Mon, 28 Aug 2017 21:52:34 UTC link

thanks,

i have installed

2017-08-29 03:22:33 - Installed - cpuspeed (1.5)
2017-08-28 20:14:54 - Installed - acpid (2.0.16)
2017-08-28 17:17:11 - Installed - pm-utils (1.4.1)
2017-08-28 17:17:10 - Installed - kbd (2.0.2)
2017-08-28 17:17:00 - Installed - bash (4.4.5)

i have need also of change the local hours.

and now what is the command for configured please ?

there is too much information...

i don't understand and not see the simple way for config the Standby mode...

# Ceel @ Mon, 28 Aug 2017 23:00:44 UTC link

@ Daniel8,

I didn't install pm-utils and can't test it tonight.

I've had a look quickly to the doc ; seems you have to follow these instructions:

Suspend on idle/inactivity
One method relies on xautolock program. Add following:
xautolock -time 30 -locker "sudo pm-suspend" -detectsleep &
to ~/.xinitrc. This implies that pm-suspend is called after 30 minutes of inactivity.

Files that begin with a "." are hidden files; you must indicate to PCManFM if you want to see them.
~/.xinitrc = /home/tux/.xinitrc (if you are user tux of course).

# Daniel8 @ Tue, 29 Aug 2017 21:03:55 UTC link

thanks, but i prefer the mode manuel because i listen the music (with my netbook hp mini where i have installed slitaz) and if there is not activity, it will go into standby...

the screen turns off only for save the ernergy.

i am with linux since more of 10 years (ubuntu, linux mint, lubuntu) but i have use very little commands...

# Aleksej @ Tue, 29 Aug 2017 21:15:27 UTC link

2Ceel

There's no xautolock in any SliTaz repository: http://pkgs.slitaz.org/

# Daniel8 @ Tue, 29 Aug 2017 21:19:24 UTC link

for

Open your ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml file in the text editor. It'll look like this:

http://hg.slitaz.org/slitaz-configs/file/6c3545ad6ed7/rootfs/etc/xdg/openbox/rc.xml#l296

i see severals .config in tux and user but i don't see openbox...

# Daniel8 @ Thu, 31 Aug 2017 10:37:54 UTC link

I have succeeded... it's easy....

in the terminal, i write pm-suspend as root and it's good...

but there is not of button, always with the terminal....

i have use the terminal of tazpanel as root but with a other terminal as sakura i have this message

<<This utility may only be run by the root user.>>

how to be root manualy ? with the commande "su"

i have search and i have find :) with this link http://www.wikihow.com/Become-Root-in-Linux

thanks for the help

but it's better a button for suspend....

[attachment=45223,2542]

# Daniel8 @ Thu, 31 Aug 2017 22:10:50 UTC link

@kultex

Slitaz is small - everything you Need you have to configure yourself

You have to install acpi and configure it

http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/powermanagement-swap#post-39618

Maybe this thread helps

_________________________________________________________

therefore for add a button for suspend it's this post ?

because i don't see openbox...for edited the txt...

here is 2 screenshots of my files

[attachment=45229,2545] [attachment=45229,2546]

# kultex @ Sat, 02 Sep 2017 15:02:39 UTC link

open /home/tux/.config/lxpanel/slitaz/panels/panel with leafpad and add the following lines to the end

Plugin {
type = launchbar
Config {
Button {
id=/home/tux/.local/share/applications/Suspend.desktop
}
}
}

and then download, unzip and copy the Suspend.desktop to

/home/tux/.local/share/applications

you should find the icon right up in the corner and you just have to enter the root pw

# kultex @ Sat, 02 Sep 2017 18:47:40 UTC link

pm-suspend need a root password

if you dont want to type the rootpassword, you have to install sudoers

how to configure sudoers for pm-utils see here

https://sites.google.com/site/polarisnotme/linux/archlinux/pm-utils

# Daniel8 @ Sun, 03 Sep 2017 23:02:16 UTC link

thanks but i have a big problem for unzip.... i have installed several archiver but nothing.... and i have uninstalled after...

impossible of find a good software for unzip.....i don't understand why...

# Aleksej @ Mon, 04 Sep 2017 02:00:55 UTC link

Hi Daniel8,

You already have all you need to extract zip archives:

unzip /path/to/file.zip

If unsure, you may download extracted file I uploaded for you from here:
http://people.slitaz.org/~lexeii/forum/Suspend.desktop

# Daniel8 @ Mon, 04 Sep 2017 02:14:17 UTC link

thanks, i try of open with unzip but nothing... i don't understand why..

# Daniel8 @ Mon, 04 Sep 2017 02:48:14 UTC link

i have this files /home/tux/.local/share/desktop-directories

but not /home/tux/.local/share/applications

therefore i have try here /home/daniel/.local/share/applications

but i see nothing..

i have copy the file here before /home/tux/.local/share/desktop-directories

but i don't see nothing also

[attachment=45264,2549]

# kultex @ Mon, 04 Sep 2017 07:06:03 UTC link

you have to be in the same directory to unzip, where the file is - I suppse it is in the folder /home/tux/download

so with cd you go to the directory - cd download - if you start from user tux - if you are somewhere "cd /home/tux/download" - you can watch with ls, if the file is in the directory

if you dont have the directory /home/tux/.local/share/applications you just create it with "mkdir /home/tux/.local/share/applications"

and of course you have to restart X to find the button with logout

# Daniel8 @ Mon, 04 Sep 2017 13:29:42 UTC link

thanks, i have created /home/tux/.local/share/applications

and after i put suspend in applications

i have reboot but i don't see the button.. on the desktop or somewhere else..

[attachment=45267,2553]

# mojo @ Mon, 04 Sep 2017 15:56:18 UTC link

Open /home/tux/.local/share/applications/Suspend.desktop in text editor add to bottom:
Categories=System;
Save/exit
Applications/System Tools/Suspend
Right click Suspend/Add to desktop for icon on desktop

# Daniel8 @ Mon, 04 Sep 2017 20:23:59 UTC link

thanks :) i try soon

I downloaded the new version of slitaz rolling and as each week i deleted my hard disk and I start a new clean installation of slitaz.

and after I repeat the procedure for the mode suspend.

i hope than a archiver software works well after.

# Daniel8 @ Tue, 05 Sep 2017 20:20:41 UTC link

thanks mojo, I have succeeded, all is ok :)

thank you very much to everyone for your help :)

[attachment=45279,2554]

Lan connection doesn't work. Help

# phelps @ Sun, 20 Aug 2017 21:29:32 UTC link

hi evryone. I installed slitaz on an old dell inspiron 8100.
Once i plug in the LAN, internet doesn't work.
What should i do to solve it.
thank you

# Ceel @ Mon, 21 Aug 2017 13:10:15 UTC link

Maybe with a little more information we can help...

Did the internet work with the previous OS? Dual boot?
What version of SliTaz? What's your ethernet card?...

Download the pciutils package for your version of SliTaz and install it
Open a root terminal; type
lspci -nn
and post the result.

# az_ua @ Thu, 24 Aug 2017 01:20:32 UTC link

@Ceel

Hi there. Output of "lspci -nn" avaliable in "Tazpanel -> Hardware -> Summary" without pciutils package.

> tazpanel rev 596
> hardware.cgi: read pci.ids
http://hg.slitaz.org/tazpanel/rev/05203af2f9b4

I think this code should be replaced somewhere for terminal usage.

# Aleksej @ Tue, 29 Aug 2017 16:45:49 UTC link

Hi there,

2az_ua:

Interesting code, but it slow as hell. It may be optimized to run about 5 times faster:
https://gist.github.com/lexeii/8e60e1855aa4b0a16bc7e68302bb1d3d
Or better, original lspci may be used. It has more yummy cookies inside :)

connessione lan non va... aiuto

# phelps @ Sun, 20 Aug 2017 21:34:15 UTC link

Ciao a tutti sono nuovo. Ho installato slitaz 4.0 su un vecchio dell inspiron.
Una volta attaccato il cavo lan il notebook non naviga. Cosa devo fare?

# gibor @ Tue, 22 Aug 2017 21:36:50 UTC link

Ciao, potrebbe sembrare complicato, ma non lo è. Inizia con l'aprire un terminale e dai
ifconfig
se ha riconosciuto la scheda lan devi trovarla in quell'output (eth...)
una volta chiarito questo possiamo andare avanti.

Moto x näo monta nem foi reconhecido para usar com rotiador

# cpf @ Sun, 20 Aug 2017 22:28:08 UTC link

Ah muito conheço o Slitaz agora resolvi instalar o 4.0 Tanke num Toshiba Satelite 1800. Moto x que esta contrariando... No mais igual luva o SO show de bola...
Ainda pego jeito com ele conto com ajuda de todos...

Thanks...

# cpf @ Wed, 20 Sep 2017 13:35:54 UTC link

Devemos tornar dificuldades em aprendizados...
Porém solução passa por adaptação aplicada ao Debian, onde se cria um diretório permanente com todos pacotes disponibilizados do Slitaz 4.0 tanke...
Gostaria de pedir ajuda nesse sentido pois qualquer copilação de software tenho que ter os pacotes antes e suas dependências...
Agora não sei se coloco o link da solução ou a própria dica...
Criando um repositório direto e completo no HD...

Pale moon for replace Midori by default with SlitaZ ?

# Daniel8 @ Mon, 21 Aug 2017 21:45:21 UTC link

Hello,

I wanted installed firefox but i have find Pale moon, curious i have try and i am very surprised by the speed, a better compatibility to view web pages and a better management for the bookmarks than Midori, it's very stable.

Therefore why is not installed by default for SlitaZ ?

Midori is lite also but less polyvalent and stable.

# kultex @ Tue, 22 Aug 2017 12:44:26 UTC link

Because slitaz ISO is as small al possible.........

And eyverybody should install the programs he/she wants......

# Daniel8 @ Tue, 22 Aug 2017 21:37:44 UTC link

yes i know but Pale moon is better than Midori... and it's more pleasant to use for the new user of SlitaZ.

# kultex @ Tue, 22 Aug 2017 22:49:19 UTC link

Yelp - i use it too, but its bigger than the whole slitaz ISO

http://linux.palemoon.org/download/mainline/

And some like opera, some Firefox, some Lynx or w3m, some xombrero....

# Daniel8 @ Tue, 22 Aug 2017 23:58:19 UTC link

thanks, i understand now... the installation package is much heavier than that of Midori, as the others web browser..

pb de connexion wifi avec slitaz

# jmms @ Mon, 21 Aug 2017 23:07:50 UTC link

bonsoir

je suis totalement nouveau sur ce forum et quasi totalement débutant linux
compte tenu du matériel que j'utilise (portable compaq avec seulement 500mo de ram, j'ai pensé qu'il serait bien de tenter d'utiliser slitaz pour faire tourner cette machine

j'ai lancé slitaz 5 en mode live
a priori tout se passe bien sauf que je ne réussis pas à connecter le pc en wifi
mais on peut penser que je n'ai pas fait ce qu'il faut :
- dans le menu j'ai trouvé configuration wifi
- j'ai donc cliqué sur cette option
- on m'a demandé un code a priori root
- j'ai obtenu une autre fenêtre dans laquelle il me semble qu'en fait, je devrais voir ma box (qui est un peu loin mais j'ai installé un répétiteur wifi et normalement de là ou j'ai fait les essais, le lien wifi est nickel)
- d'après ce que je crois comprendre, en fait, ni ma box, ni le répétiteur ne semble repérés....

et vraiment j'ai cherché un peu dans tous les sens, mais sans doute pas correctement vu mon peu d'expérience linux et n'ai pas trouvé de solution...

du coup, ai essayé le même principe avec un cd de slitaz 4 et, même problème j'ai l'impression que ma box n'est pas vue...

quelqu'un pourrait il svp m'aider en me guidant sur les bonnes manips à réaliser

à l'avanee merci à tous
bonne soirée
jmms

# Ceel @ Tue, 22 Aug 2017 08:36:05 UTC link

Bonjour jmms,

Ta carte Wi-Fi a probablement besoin d'un driver qui n'est pas installé par défaut.
Pour les manipulations ci-dessous, je te conseille d'utiliser SliTaz 5.

Ça devrait nous permettre d'identifier ta carte.

# jmms @ Tue, 22 Aug 2017 21:46:49 UTC link

bonsoir CEEL

merci pour ces infos que je vais appliquer dès que je serai chez moi dans qques jours et je te ferai un retour
juste une précision : je ne sais effectivement quelle est la carte intégrée, je sais juste qu'avec un autre système d'exploitation cela fonctionne (j'ai par exemple testé lubuntu mais bien sûr trop lourd)

donc je poste mon retour dans quelques jours
merci encore
bonne soirée
jmms

# jmms @ Wed, 23 Aug 2017 23:03:34 UTC link

bonsoir Ceel
j'ai finalement pu commencer à appliquer le process que tu m'as indiqué mais j'ai un souci je n'arrive pas à recharger
voici le message que j'obtiens
- création d'une sauvegarde de la dernière liste de paquets : echec
-getting "bundle.tar.:sma" echec
- recharging failed
-restoring data base file : ls :/var/lib/tazpkg/*.bak : aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type

je suppose que cela ne marche pas parce que je ne suis pas connecté...? et donc, il faudrait que je connecte ponctuellement le pc en ethernet pour faire ces manips ?

j'ai recopié l'ensemble du message d'erreur, car je n'ai pas réussi à faire de copie d'écran
je suis un peu perturbé qd j'ouvre ce qui me semble être l'outil de copie d'écran, il s'ouvre quelque chose qui ressemble à paint et, si je sélectionne une zone, je ne réussis pas à l'enregistrer sur un disque externe pour la poster...
en fait je suis habitué à faststone capture zous windows et là je suis dérouté...
n'y a t il pas un outil slitaz dans l'ensemble des paquets qui pourrait être pour moi plus facile pour une capture ?

à l'avance je te remercie pour tes conseils
bonne soirée
jmms

# Ceel @ Thu, 24 Aug 2017 00:22:41 UTC link

Bonsoir jmms,

Oui, il te faut te connecter en ethernet dans un premier temps.

Si c'est un problème, récupère le paquet sur une clé USB depuis un autre PC en cliquant sur ce lien.
Boot ta SliTaz-rolling et copie le paquet dans ton répertoire /home/tux.
Ouvre le terminal et devient root.
Tape les commandes suivantes :
cd /home/tux (bien que tu devrais être dans le bon répertoire)
tazpkg -i pciutils-3.2.1.tazpkg
et quand le paquet est installé
lspci -nn
Poste la réponse.

# Timmi @ Thu, 24 Aug 2017 08:48:43 UTC link

The tech support section on Compaq's (or HP) website,
would have the drivers you need for Linux,
if you are not able to find them with this method.

# jmms @ Fri, 25 Aug 2017 21:43:00 UTC link

merci Ceel pour ces conseils
j'ai tenté de connecter en ethernet mais manifestement je n'ai pas réussi, je vais donc dès que possible utiliser la solution de secours via clé usb
par contre juste pour comprendre j'aurais qd même bien aimé au moins réussir à connecter en ethernet dans un premier temps : y aurait il qque part un tuto qui pourrait me permettre de comprendre ce que je dois faire pour établir cette connexion (j'avais naïvement pensé que la connexion éthernet, elle, était automatique comme cela est le cas pour le peu que je connais de linux : lubuntu)

à l'avance merci à toi

thank you too to Timmi for his suggestion

bonne soirée à tous les deux

# Ceel @ Fri, 25 Aug 2017 22:16:12 UTC link

Bonsoir jmms,

az_ua m'a indiqué récemment (many thanks az_ua) un autre moyen qui devrait faire l'affaire (si on n'a pas besoin des identifiant vendeur/produit) et qui t'éviteras d'installer pciutils :

Ouvre TazPanel puis clique sur Matériel > Résumé.
Descend jusqu'à lspci, sélectionne le contenu de l'encadré et copie/colle dans un post.

Concernant la connexion ethernet, elle est activée par défaut. Mais là encore, tu as peut être une carte qui nécessite un driver. Certes, lubuntu reconnaît ton matériel automatiquement mais son ISO fait plus de 900 Mo ; SliTaz 42 Mo...

# lm2 @ Sun, 27 Aug 2017 19:28:21 UTC link

bonsoir

pour se connecter en ethernet :
tu branches le cable
tu ouvre la console en root
tu fais un "ip a" pour lister les interfaces
tu reperes son nom (en cablé, eth0)
tu oublies pas de la mettre up (d'ailleurs there is a bug on it, on all slitaz i remember i had to put up some intf because its not by default "ip l set eth0 up")
donc tu fais un "ip l set eth0 up" pour l'activer
ensuite "udhcpc -i eth0"
et normalement tu ping 8.8.8.8, sinon c'est qu'il y a un pépin entre internet et ton cable.
oubliez pas de mettre le dns dans /etc/resolv.conf

ensuite;
pour les cartes wifi, à savoir :
d'abord, certaines doivent etre installées par tazpkg -gi, notamment les intel;
certaines iso de slitaz ont un bug, listent les réseaux wifi, mais l'utilitaire ne demande pas la clé et se ferme : il faut metttre à jour ou passer par wpa_supplicant manuellement.

pour terminer, pour vérifier si la carte est reconnue :
iwconfig
iwlist scan

et normalement il sort tous les wifi dispo; si yen a aucun repéré, c'est pas la peine d'essayer de se connecter, soit la carte est pas repérée, soit elle marche pas, soit..

# jmms @ Thu, 31 Aug 2017 22:33:15 UTC link

bonsoir Ceel et Lm2

tout d'abord, désolé pour le délai de réponse

pour Ceel :
j'ai fait les manips que tu m'as indiquées avec tazpanel et voici ce que j'ai obtenu via cjoint :
http://www.cjoint.com/c/GHFuCuFFj11

merci à l'avance pour ton retour

pour Lm2 :
je n'ai pour l'instant pu faire que la manip pour le wifi pour voir si la carte est reconnue, c'est à dire iwconfig suivi de iwlist scan
le résultat est le suivant "failed to read scan data :network is down"
malgré ce retour, je te confirme que le réseau wifi fonctionne sans pb et d'ailleurs, je fais cette réponse avec un pc en wifi et, pour le pc pour lequel j'ai un souci wifi, je précise que, pour l'instant, j'ai lubuntu d'installé et qui fonctionne en wifi, donc on peut supposer qu'il n'y a pas de pb réseau mais bien plutôt un pb avec le wifi du pc
à l'avance merci pour ton retour

# Ceel @ Fri, 01 Sep 2017 20:20:06 UTC link

Bonsoir jmms,

Pas de problème pour le délai ; au final, c'est toi qui attend ;)

Utilise SliTaz 5.0. Et n'oublie pas que

Bonne chance :)

Si échec total, poste les sorties de lsmod (juste après le boot, sans avoir rien fait) et de lspci -nn (après avoir installé le paquet pciutils). Avec les ID vendeur:produit, on pourra peut-être faire quelque chose, et en dernier recours on pourra toujours essayer le driver Windows de la carte Wi-Fi avec NDiswrapper.

# jmms @ Mon, 04 Sep 2017 21:03:54 UTC link

bonsoir ceel

merci pour toutes ces nouvelles infos
je viens de tenter dans un premier temps les manips pour le wifi et en fait je me heurte à un autre pb :
dans l'invite du cd, il n'y a pas de choix permettant de mettre en français, du coup je me retrouve avec un clavier qwerty...
j'ai naïvement pensé qu'en ouvrant keyboard mapping dans les préférences et en choisissant l'une des 2 options azerty j'allais me retrouver avec un clavier français, mais, ni l'une ni l'autre des options ne semble avoir de l'effet... et donc, compte tenu de tous les signes que je suis supposé utiliser pour tenter la connexion wifi, je galère vraiment...
désolé de t'ennuyer mais n'y aurait il pas une ligne de cde simple qui me permettrait d'avoir le clavier en français pour réaliser toutes les manips que tu m'as conseillées ?

un détail par rapport à un point que tu évoques : non en fait je ne sais pas si lubuntu fonctionne en ethernet, je n'ai jamais tezté mais je le ferai et te dirai

à l'avance je te remercie
bonne soirée
jmms

# Ceel @ Tue, 05 Sep 2017 06:44:28 UTC link

Salut jmms,

Soit depuis le menu Préférences, soit depuis un terminal root :
tazkmap (en clavier QWERTY = tqwk,qp)
et tu choisis le clavier fr azerty.

Dans les 2 cas, tu dois fermer et rouvrir la session pour prendre en compte la modification.

# jmms @ Tue, 05 Sep 2017 18:42:44 UTC link

bonsoir ceel

merci pour ce nouveau conseil qui va m'être bien utile pour réaliser les manips que tu m'as préconisées précédemment
tu me dis qu'il faut fermer et réouvrir la session pour la prise en compte de la modif
bonne soirée
jmms

# jmms @ Sat, 16 Sep 2017 21:09:29 UTC link

bonsoir Ceel
encore une fois j'ai été long...(pas trop le temps en ce moment)

j'ai commencé les manips que tu m'as conseillées pour le wifi

- pour "zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i 3945", pas de souci
- mais pour "CONFIG_IWL3945=m", j'ai eu un retour "config iwl non trouvé"

du coup, je n'ai pas pu aller plus loin et donc j'ai, comme tu me l'avais dit pour le cas où je ne réussirais pas, fait un lsmod et un lspci

je te joins les résultats de ces deux actions, voici les liens :
http://www.cjoint.com/c/GIqtil3x7pT
http://www.cjoint.com/c/GIqti3kqWaT

à l'avance je te remercie
bonne soirée
jmms

# Ceel @ Mon, 18 Sep 2017 20:50:02 UTC link

Bonsoir jmms,

CONFIG_IWL3945=m n'est pas une commande mais la réponse que tu as dû obtenir à zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i 3945
Le "m" t'indique que le driver n'est pas dans le kernel mais disponible en tant que module.
Tu peux donc le charger avec la commande modprobe iwl3945 ce que d'ailleurs tu as fait puisqu'il est visible dans ton lsmod.
Ensuite redémarre le réseau : /etc/init.d/network.sh restart et regarde si tu vois des réseaux, soit avec la commande iwlist scan soit dans TazPanel (Réseau > Configuration WiFi ou quelque chose du genre, je ne suis pas sur SliTaz ce soir), tu devras être root.

# jmms @ Sun, 22 Oct 2017 22:57:07 UTC link

bonsoir Ceel
petit message ce soir pour te dire que je suis vraiment désolé car je viens de m'apercevoir que le post que je croyais t'avoir adressé il y a maintenant plus de 3 semaines n'est pas parti...
en fait je te disais que je ne pouvais appliquer tes derniers conseils car j'avais complètement planté le pc portable qui était concerné
cela n'a strictement rien à voir avec slitaz il s'agit a priori d'un pb de matériel

pour l'instant je n'ai pas encore réussi à le redémarrer mais il faut dire que je n'ai pas pu y passer bcp de temps...

je reviendrai vers toi qd j'aurai réussi

et encore désolé d'avoir raté l'envoi de mon post et donc du fait que tu n'as pas été prévenu

bonne soirée
jmms

# LienRag @ Thu, 26 Oct 2017 20:03:00 UTC link

Normalement on ne peut pas avoir à la fois le wifi et l'ethernet disponibles sur Slitaz, pour info...
Il faut choisir l'un ou l'autre dans /etc/network.conf

teamviewer

# I-Jurij @ Tue, 22 Aug 2017 20:14:28 UTC link

Hello!
Someone got to run teamviewer in slitaz 5.0?
Share a recipe, please...

Привет!
Кто нибудь смог запустить teamviewer в slitaz 5.0?

Разные версии совместимы между собой, надеюсь?

# lm2 @ Sun, 27 Aug 2017 19:39:57 UTC link

hello

it's possible to run teamviewer using the teamviewer app of chrome, through the browser of google..

# I-Jurij @ Sun, 27 Aug 2017 20:13:54 UTC link

SliTaz has no google-chrome.

# lm2 @ Sun, 27 Aug 2017 20:32:17 UTC link

i run google chrome everyday on my slitaz machines, i don't deal anymore with mido/tazweb..

http://slitaz.free.fr/index.php?post/2017/08/27/%5Bfrom-dl0r4h.free.fr%5D-slitaz-x86/32bits%3A-opera-/-google-chrome-web-browsers

# I-Jurij @ Wed, 04 Oct 2017 19:31:52 UTC link

lm2 thanks, and what about memory usage? My laptop has only 512Mb (-64 - videocard, -80 - daemon&other, free < 400)

Connesso ma non navigo

# maary79 @ Thu, 24 Aug 2017 17:35:45 UTC link

Ho appena installato SliTaz, ma ho un problema di connessione.
Apro TazPanel, vado su Network, seleziono ethernet.
Imposto i valori:
Interface eth0
IP appress 192.168.8.6 (prima era 192.168.0.6 ma l'ho modificato, secondo il mio IP)
Netmask 255.255.255.0 (non modificato)
Gateway 192.168.8.1 (modificato come sopra)
DNS server 192.168.8.1 (modificato come sopra)

Poi premo su Activate (static) e Activate (DHCP)

Su proprietà di connessione - generale mi dice:
stato: inattivo/fermo
attività:
ricevuto: 5130 pacchetti (757.2 kb)
Inviato: 5130 pacchetti (757.2 kb)

Su supporto, c'è l'indirizzo ipv4 127.0.0.1 e maschera subnet 255.0.0.0
su scheda di rete c'è:
tipo Loopback locale
indirizzo: 00:00:00:00:00

Forse è quest'ultimo ad essere errato, ma anche se da TazPanel - Network "manual edit" non saprei proprio dove inserire un indirizzo diverso, nè come fare a trovarlo.

Stessa cosa se vado su Wireless connection
Metto SSID, password, encription type lascio "none".
Poi premo "configure", e poi su "start" ma stesso risultato. Risulta collegato (gli spinotti sono attaccati), ma col browser non navigo. E anche gli aggiornamenti sembrano non essercene, ma non mi da errori di connessione, appena provo ad aggiornare il sistema, da TazPanel - packages.

Ho appena dato il comando ifconfig

slitaz@slitaz:~$ ifconfig
lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:5845 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:5845 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:922430 (900.8 KiB) TX bytes:922430 (900.8 KiB)

Questo forse può tornare utile.

slitaz@slitaz:~$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 760/M760 Host (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SG86C202
00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS964 [MuTIOL Media IO] (rev 36)
00:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] (rev 01)
00:02.6 Modem: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Modem Controller (rev a0)
00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS7012 AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0)
00:03.0 USB controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1 Controller (rev 0f)
00:03.1 USB controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1 Controller (rev 0f)
00:03.2 USB controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1 Controller (rev 0f)
00:03.3 USB controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 2.0 Controller
00:09.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
00:0a.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev ac)
00:0a.1 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev ac)
00:0a.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C552 IEEE 1394 Controller (rev 04)
00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter

Questo per il WiFi

slitaz@slitaz:~$ iwconfig
lo no wireless extensions.

dummy0 no wireless extensions.

eth0 no wireless extensions.

wlan0 IEEE 802.11bg ESSID:"HUAWEI-5151-d771"
Mode:Managed Access Point: Not-Associated Tx-Power=20 dBm
Retry long limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off
Power Management:off

slitaz@slitaz:~$

Help!

# gibor @ Thu, 24 Aug 2017 22:51:54 UTC link

Ciao, io non uso mai tazpanel. Se vuoi ti suggerisco la configurazione di rete tramite /etc/network.conf altrimenti attendi aiuti in Inglese da chi ha maggior dimestichezza con l'interfaccia web.

grub2-efi SliTaz's package and UEFI

# Ceel @ Fri, 25 Aug 2017 09:25:35 UTC link

Hi,

I am working on UEFI with the goal of course to boot SliTaz in this mode.

I can see in our grub2-efi package only bootia32.efi loader; EFI 32bit computers are exceptions.

Please, is it possible to include the 64bit loader in our package?

Many thanks

# Ceel @ Sun, 27 Aug 2017 11:59:04 UTC link

Well, it seems nobody is interesting by installing SliTaz in dual boot with Windows 8 on a UEFI computer ;) What a pity... because I did it ! :-p I've recovered grubx64.efi and the modules I need from an ISO of welknown distro.

I did it but (there is always a but).
I first tested SliTaz Rolling Core-64 in Legacy mode to be sure I won't have any compability problems and it worked fine. Then I came back to UEFI mode and installed rEFInd and SliTaz. And now, SliTaz boots... in console mode.
Could it be possible that booting in UEFI on a 64-bit architecture computer requires 64-bit drivers? Does anyone know?

Here is my lspci -nn output
00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series SoC Transaction Register [8086:0f00] (rev 0e)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Graphics & Display [8086:0f31] (rev 0e)
00:13.0 SATA controller [0106]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor E3800 Series SATA AHCI Controller [8086:0f23] (rev 0e)
00:14.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series USB xHCI [8086:0f35] (rev 0e)
00:1a.0 Encryption controller [1080]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Trusted Execution Engine [8086:0f18] (rev 0e)
00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series High Definition Audio Controller [8086:0f04] (rev 0e)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor E3800 Series PCI Express Root Port 1 [8086:0f48] (rev 0e)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor E3800 Series PCI Express Root Port 2 [8086:0f4a] (rev 0e)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor E3800 Series PCI Express Root Port 3 [8086:0f4c] (rev 0e)
00:1d.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series USB EHCI [8086:0f34] (rev 0e)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Power Control Unit [8086:0f1c] (rev 0e)
00:1f.3 SMBus [0c05]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor E3800 Series SMBus Controller [8086:0f12] (rev 0e)
02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter [168c:0036] (rev 01)
03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller [10ec:8168] (rev 0c)

I think I can say that our actual grub2-efi package is virtually unusable since it can only be used on 32-bit EFI computers :( . We'll really need a grub2-EFI-64bit if we want SliTaz to be compatible with new PCs.

# lm2 @ Sun, 27 Aug 2017 19:22:39 UTC link

I think I can say that our actual grub2-efi package is virtually unusable since it canonly be used on 32-bit EFI computers :( . We'll really need a grub2-EFI-64bit if we want `SliTaz to be compatible with new PCs.

lol.. in fact you have to understand, our developpers are too busy on their work to start putting UEFI without CSM/LEGACY on the top priority lists..

means that maybe in 2019/2020, you will MAYBE have it, dont believe to see a solution before.

they will talk about it, answer questions, have discussion on it, but no pc in uefi class3 (without csm/legacy) would be able to boot on slitaz before 2019 (show me the opposite please)

# Aleksej @ Sun, 27 Aug 2017 21:02:58 UTC link

2lm2

lol funny facts from future

in my variant of reality slitaz will be unmaintained in 2018. so i doubt it will have uefi support in 2019/2020. as for me (but who am i?), i don't need it while using laptop with bios.

# lm2 @ Sun, 27 Aug 2017 21:05:42 UTC link

yes, but some people here want to use slitaz with uefi without CSM/Legacy.

so, just make them off slitaz up to.. when?

it's not about future, it's about deadline, or schedule for an efi release, which is not supposed to come before 2018/19, as i guessed, for one thing :

it's not here today, why uefi support should be here in 2018/19?
could be done today..but not.

Dark screen after changing resolution

# Neufena @ Fri, 25 Aug 2017 22:42:00 UTC link

Hi,

I have successfully installed SliTaz on a very old laptop. However it boots in 1024x768 but the native resolution of the display is 800x600. When I change the resolution the screen darkens (like a dimmer) and doesn't change back even when I go back to 1024. Even if I save the settings and reboot the screen is still dimmed. Setting back to 1024 and rebooting does remove the dimmer. Does anyone have any ideas why this is happening?

Thanks,

# hackdorte @ Sun, 27 Aug 2017 10:38:29 UTC link

Try:

Open http://tazpanel:82 and login as root.

Hardware : Auto-install Xorg video driver

After installing the drivers... Reboot.

Menu Applications : Preferences : Monitor Settings

Make your choice of resolution, apply and save.

# Neufena @ Tue, 29 Aug 2017 18:22:34 UTC link

Hi,

Thanks for that. I'd already tried that but it tells me a driver cannot be found. The video card is a Neomagic and I believe there is a taz package for that so I will try to get the laptop online and download this driver.

It's a very odd issue, if I change the resolution it all works just is very dim, as if the brightness is right down. I've also found this happens if I try to access a terminal tty when switch back to X

Booting SliTaz from the ISO file with grub2

# Ceel @ Sun, 27 Aug 2017 03:05:08 UTC link

Hi,

Using GRUB4DOS, I can boot SliTaz from an ISO like this:

title SliTaz 5.0 Rolling core64 - LiveISO
   map --mem --heads=0 --sectors-per-track=0 (hd0,4)/slitaz/boot/slitaz-rolling-core64.iso (hd32)
   map --hook
   chainloader (hd32)

Is it possible to do the same with Grub2? The only solution I've found is:

menuentry "SliTaz Rolling core64 - LiveISO" {
        loopback myiso (hd0,4)/slitaz/boot/slitaz-rolling-core64.iso
        linux (myiso)/boot/bzImage64  rw root=/dev/null video=-32 kmap=fr-latin1 autologin
        initrd (myiso)/boot/rootfs.gz
}

I tried with chainloader:

menuentry "SliTaz Rolling core64 - LiveISO" {
        chainloader (hd0,4)/slitaz/boot/slitaz-rolling-core64.iso
}

but this returns the error cannot load image; I suppose chainloader does not support the .iso

There isn't any possibility to run an ISO whithout to have to indicate the kernel and the rootfs?

Thanks.

Error in the isolinux.cfg file of the core64 ISO

# Ceel @ Sun, 27 Aug 2017 12:33:52 UTC link

The config file of Isolinux of the core-64 ISO calls bzImage instead bzImage64:

   APPEND linux /boot/bzImage initrd=/boot/rootfs.gz rw root=/dev/null video=-32 autologin

Seems it doesn't disturb Isolinux; Grub2 is less complacent. :(

ssh: connect to host ::1 port 22: Connection refused

# lm2 @ Sun, 27 Aug 2017 19:34:08 UTC link

root@amilopro:/home/tux# ssh ::1
ssh: connect to host ::1 port 22: Connection refused

all in the title, slitaz 3, can't have ipv6 incoming trafic working..

Installation de paquet, conversion de masse et création de recette

# Nabuchodonosor @ Sun, 27 Aug 2017 21:15:05 UTC link

Bonjour.
Je cherche à installer la derniere version de Libre office.
Téléchargement du rpm.tar.gz dans /tmp
Je travaille sur la version

version : 4.0
packages : 295 installed
kernel : 2.6.37-slitaz

Je cherche à installer LibreOffice dans la version 5.3.5.2_Linux_x86_rpm

Le RPM est constitué de

d'un script d'install
d'un readme
46 fichiers rpm

Existe-t-il une commande "convert" de masse pour convertir l'ensemble des 46 fichiers RPM en tazpkg ?

Merci.

Martin

# lm2 @ Sun, 27 Aug 2017 21:17:02 UTC link

46 à la main je pense, désolé

par contre :
a- ya déjà libreoffice de dispo sous slitaz
b- pourquoi convertir?

tazpkg convert package.rpm

et ca te sortira un package.tazpkg

# Nabuchodonosor @ Tue, 29 Aug 2017 18:13:42 UTC link

Je te remercie lm2.
Effectivement "convert" 46 éléments eut été lourd.
Je m'étais préparé un script :

#!/bin/sh
echo *\n** Script de conversion de format de package exotique en format slitaz, tazpkg\n*
#
# Parametre : fichier, liste de fichiers à convertir obtenue par ls *.<extensionFormatExotique>
#
#
# Usage
#
dataFile=$1
awk 'tazpkg convert $0 ' $dataFile

Je ne l'ai pas validé car je re examine ton information sur la dispo de libreOffice.
J'avais bien vu et chargé le package get-LibreOffice-1.2 je n'avais pas pu démarrer libreOffice et donc j'en avais déduit que cela n'était pas ce que je voulais.
Le post http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/installer-libre-office m'a fait essayer de lancer au prompt

# get-LibreOffice

ce que je suis entrain de faire.

Une fois cela fait, le post http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/install-libreoffice-in-live-distribution m'a aidé pour démarrer LibreOffice

# soffice

J'ai suivi la description du post ci-dessus pour peupler le menu des entrées LibreOffice et pour corriger le lien.

Merci à rerivero et à tous.

Bonsoir

Can't access hard drive

# Fair Peace @ Mon, 28 Aug 2017 00:51:53 UTC link

Hello! I need help. I usually use WattOS and just found SliTaz. After many unsuccessful attempt to boot to a bootable USB loaded with Slitaz (error messages and other stuff), I made a CD of the Stable 4.0 version. I had success getting to the desktop, but found that Midori wasn't able to access many webpages (figured out is is because it needs to be updated) so decided to reboot to go to WattOS and make a CD of 5.0. When I rebooted (with the Hard Drive re-set as the 1st option in boot options and the CD and USBs all removed), it keeps booting only to SliTaz. How do I get it to boot back to WattOS?

Thanks!

# Ceel @ Mon, 28 Aug 2017 08:14:49 UTC link

Hi,

If SliTaz boots without the LiveCD/USB, it's because it is installed...
See the configuration file of your boot loader.

# Fair Peace @ Mon, 28 Aug 2017 08:57:14 UTC link

Hi Ceel - thanks so much for taking the time to reply. I am confused as to how I installed it as I was using it from the Live CD and didn't click on the option to install.

I appreciate your answer about the bootloader and have to admit I am still learning a lot about using Linux and am unclear where I would look for that and what I am looking for. Any guidance you could prefer would be much appreciated. I am feeling a little desperate.....

# Ceel @ Mon, 28 Aug 2017 09:34:16 UTC link

If wattOS uses Grub as boot loader, you'll find the configuration file (grub.lst or grub.cfg if Grub2) in /boot/grub. Open it with a file editor and copy/past the contain in your post.

Open the terminal Sakura and become root; type su
The system will answer Password:.
Enter the password (root, nothing will be displayed when typing) and valid.
Type fdisk -l, copy/paste the output of the command.

# Fair Peace @ Tue, 29 Aug 2017 07:18:54 UTC link

Hi Ceel - I really appreciate your help and the specific steps. They were very clear. Here is the grub.cfg info and below that is the terminal output. Also, every time I boot, I am asked to choose with SliTaz I want to use as well as questions about language and keyboard, if that helps figure anything out. Thanks again!

#
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
#
# It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates
# from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
#

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then
  set have_grubenv=true
  load_env
fi
if [ "${next_entry}" ] ; then
   set default="${next_entry}"
   set next_entry=
   save_env next_entry
   set boot_once=true
else
   set default="0"
fi

if [ x"${feature_menuentry_id}" = xy ]; then
  menuentry_id_option="--id"
else
  menuentry_id_option=""
fi

export menuentry_id_option

if [ "${prev_saved_entry}" ]; then
  set saved_entry="${prev_saved_entry}"
  save_env saved_entry
  set prev_saved_entry=
  save_env prev_saved_entry
  set boot_once=true
fi

function savedefault {
  if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then
    saved_entry="${chosen}"
    save_env saved_entry
  fi
}
function recordfail {
  set recordfail=1
  if [ -n "${have_grubenv}" ]; then if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then save_env recordfail; fi; fi
}
function load_video {
  if [ x$feature_all_video_module = xy ]; then
    insmod all_video
  else
    insmod efi_gop
    insmod efi_uga
    insmod ieee1275_fb
    insmod vbe
    insmod vga
    insmod video_bochs
    insmod video_cirrus
  fi
}

if [ x$feature_default_font_path = xy ] ; then
   font=unicode
else
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos1'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
else
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
fi
    font="/usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2"
fi

if loadfont $font ; then
  set gfxmode=auto
  load_video
  insmod gfxterm
  set locale_dir=$prefix/locale
  set lang=en_US
  insmod gettext
fi
terminal_output gfxterm
if [ "${recordfail}" = 1 ] ; then
  set timeout=30
else
  if [ x$feature_timeout_style = xy ] ; then
    set timeout_style=menu
    set timeout=10
  # Fallback normal timeout code in case the timeout_style feature is
  # unavailable.
  else
    set timeout=10
  fi
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###
set menu_color_normal=cyan/blue
set menu_color_highlight=white/blue
### END /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
function gfxmode {
	set gfxpayload="${1}"
	if [ "${1}" = "keep" ]; then
		set vt_handoff=vt.handoff=7
	else
		set vt_handoff=
	fi
}
if [ "${recordfail}" != 1 ]; then
  if [ -e ${prefix}/gfxblacklist.txt ]; then
    if hwmatch ${prefix}/gfxblacklist.txt 3; then
      if [ ${match} = 0 ]; then
        set linux_gfx_mode=keep
      else
        set linux_gfx_mode=text
      fi
    else
      set linux_gfx_mode=text
    fi
  else
    set linux_gfx_mode=keep
  fi
else
  set linux_gfx_mode=text
fi
export linux_gfx_mode
menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-simple-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
	recordfail
	load_video
	gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
	insmod gzio
	if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
	insmod part_msdos
	insmod ext2
	set root='hd0,msdos1'
	if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
	  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
	else
	  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
	fi
        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-89-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro  quiet splash $vt_handoff
	initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-89-generic
}
submenu 'Advanced options for wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux' $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-advanced-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-89-generic' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-89-generic-advanced-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-89-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-89-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro  quiet splash $vt_handoff
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-89-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-89-generic (recovery mode)' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-89-generic-recovery-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-89-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-89-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro recovery nomodeset
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-89-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-87-generic' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-87-generic-advanced-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-87-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-87-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro  quiet splash $vt_handoff
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-87-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-87-generic (recovery mode)' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-87-generic-recovery-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-87-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-87-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro recovery nomodeset
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-87-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-83-generic' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-83-generic-advanced-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-83-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-83-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro  quiet splash $vt_handoff
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-83-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-83-generic (recovery mode)' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-83-generic-recovery-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-83-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-83-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro recovery nomodeset
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-83-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-78-generic' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-78-generic-advanced-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-78-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-78-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro  quiet splash $vt_handoff
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-78-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-78-generic (recovery mode)' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-78-generic-recovery-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-78-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-78-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro recovery nomodeset
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-78-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-72-generic' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-72-generic-advanced-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-72-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-72-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro  quiet splash $vt_handoff
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-72-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-72-generic (recovery mode)' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-72-generic-recovery-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-72-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-72-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro recovery nomodeset
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-72-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-66-generic' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-66-generic-advanced-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-66-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-66-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro  quiet splash $vt_handoff
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-66-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-66-generic (recovery mode)' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-66-generic-recovery-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-66-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-66-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro recovery nomodeset
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-66-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-64-generic' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-64-generic-advanced-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-64-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-64-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro  quiet splash $vt_handoff
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-64-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-64-generic (recovery mode)' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-64-generic-recovery-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-64-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-64-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro recovery nomodeset
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-64-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-59-generic' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-59-generic-advanced-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-59-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-59-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro  quiet splash $vt_handoff
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-59-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-59-generic (recovery mode)' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-59-generic-recovery-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-59-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-59-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro recovery nomodeset
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-59-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-36-generic' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-36-generic-advanced-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-36-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-36-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro  quiet splash $vt_handoff
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-36-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-36-generic (recovery mode)' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-36-generic-recovery-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-36-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-36-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro recovery nomodeset
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-36-generic
	}
}

### END /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###

### END /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###
menuentry 'Memory test (memtest86+)' {
	insmod part_msdos
	insmod ext2
	set root='hd0,msdos1'
	if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
	  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
	else
	  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
	fi
	knetbsd	/boot/memtest86+.elf
}
menuentry 'Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200)' {
	insmod part_msdos
	insmod ext2
	set root='hd0,msdos1'
	if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
	  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
	else
	  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
	fi
	linux16	/boot/memtest86+.bin console=ttyS0,115200n8
}
### END /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
### END /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_uefi-firmware ###
### END /etc/grub.d/30_uefi-firmware ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
# This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries.  Simply type the
# menu entries you want to add after this comment.  Be careful not to change
# the 'exec tail' line above.
### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###
if [ -f  ${config_directory}/custom.cfg ]; then
  source ${config_directory}/custom.cfg
elif [ -z "${config_directory}" -a -f  $prefix/custom.cfg ]; then
  source $prefix/custom.cfg;
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###

Terminal output after following your directions:

Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160000000000 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19452 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks  Id System
/dev/sda1   *           1        2432    19530273+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda2            2432       19453   136716289   5 Extended
/dev/sda5            2432       18237   126953125  83 Linux
/dev/sda6           18237       19453     9762816  82 Linux swap

Disk /dev/sdb: 4127 MB, 4127194624 bytes
127 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1023 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 7874 * 512 = 4031488 bytes

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks  Id System
/dev/sdb1               1        1023     4027520   c Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
     phys=(1023, 126, 62) logical=(1022, 126, 62)

# Ceel @ Tue, 29 Aug 2017 18:05:45 UTC link

Hi Fair Peace,

No trace in your grub.cfg of SliTaz. This is not Grub2 that starts the PC.

You wrote:

When I rebooted (with the Hard Drive re-set as the 1st option in boot options and the CD and USBs all removed), it keeps booting only to SliTaz

but I can see in the output of fdisk -l

/dev/sdb1 1 1023 4027520 c Win95 FAT32 (LBA)

Seems a 4GB USB stick is connected. How did you start the computer?

And also

/dev/sda1 * 1 2432 19530273+ 83 Linux

and

/dev/sda5 2432 18237 126953125 83 Linux

Why 2 Linux partitions?

What happens with nothing connected to USB ports?
How does the start menu look like?

# Fair Peace @ Tue, 29 Aug 2017 20:46:18 UTC link

Hi Ceel - sorry...you are right...I had added the USB back to get something off of it. I just unplugged it again, reset the boot sequence to HDD 1st and took another copy of the grub.cfg. I have posted it below.

About the 2 partitions....that is a darn good question. I noticed that a couple of weeks ago and am not sure what that is about.

By Start menu, I am thinking you mean when I boot-up. It shows SliTaz Live as the first option and the a few other SliTaz options and then a Web something and I think Reboot is the bottom of the list.

Here is the Grub:

#
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
#
# It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates
# from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
#

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then
  set have_grubenv=true
  load_env
fi
if [ "${next_entry}" ] ; then
   set default="${next_entry}"
   set next_entry=
   save_env next_entry
   set boot_once=true
else
   set default="0"
fi

if [ x"${feature_menuentry_id}" = xy ]; then
  menuentry_id_option="--id"
else
  menuentry_id_option=""
fi

export menuentry_id_option

if [ "${prev_saved_entry}" ]; then
  set saved_entry="${prev_saved_entry}"
  save_env saved_entry
  set prev_saved_entry=
  save_env prev_saved_entry
  set boot_once=true
fi

function savedefault {
  if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then
    saved_entry="${chosen}"
    save_env saved_entry
  fi
}
function recordfail {
  set recordfail=1
  if [ -n "${have_grubenv}" ]; then if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then save_env recordfail; fi; fi
}
function load_video {
  if [ x$feature_all_video_module = xy ]; then
    insmod all_video
  else
    insmod efi_gop
    insmod efi_uga
    insmod ieee1275_fb
    insmod vbe
    insmod vga
    insmod video_bochs
    insmod video_cirrus
  fi
}

if [ x$feature_default_font_path = xy ] ; then
   font=unicode
else
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos1'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
else
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
fi
    font="/usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2"
fi

if loadfont $font ; then
  set gfxmode=auto
  load_video
  insmod gfxterm
  set locale_dir=$prefix/locale
  set lang=en_US
  insmod gettext
fi
terminal_output gfxterm
if [ "${recordfail}" = 1 ] ; then
  set timeout=30
else
  if [ x$feature_timeout_style = xy ] ; then
    set timeout_style=menu
    set timeout=10
  # Fallback normal timeout code in case the timeout_style feature is
  # unavailable.
  else
    set timeout=10
  fi
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###
set menu_color_normal=cyan/blue
set menu_color_highlight=white/blue
### END /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
function gfxmode {
	set gfxpayload="${1}"
	if [ "${1}" = "keep" ]; then
		set vt_handoff=vt.handoff=7
	else
		set vt_handoff=
	fi
}
if [ "${recordfail}" != 1 ]; then
  if [ -e ${prefix}/gfxblacklist.txt ]; then
    if hwmatch ${prefix}/gfxblacklist.txt 3; then
      if [ ${match} = 0 ]; then
        set linux_gfx_mode=keep
      else
        set linux_gfx_mode=text
      fi
    else
      set linux_gfx_mode=text
    fi
  else
    set linux_gfx_mode=keep
  fi
else
  set linux_gfx_mode=text
fi
export linux_gfx_mode
menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-simple-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
	recordfail
	load_video
	gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
	insmod gzio
	if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
	insmod part_msdos
	insmod ext2
	set root='hd0,msdos1'
	if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
	  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
	else
	  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
	fi
        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-89-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro  quiet splash $vt_handoff
	initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-89-generic
}
submenu 'Advanced options for wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux' $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-advanced-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-89-generic' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-89-generic-advanced-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-89-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-89-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro  quiet splash $vt_handoff
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-89-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-89-generic (recovery mode)' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-89-generic-recovery-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-89-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-89-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro recovery nomodeset
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-89-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-87-generic' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-87-generic-advanced-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-87-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-87-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro  quiet splash $vt_handoff
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-87-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-87-generic (recovery mode)' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-87-generic-recovery-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-87-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-87-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro recovery nomodeset
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-87-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-83-generic' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-83-generic-advanced-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-83-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-83-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro  quiet splash $vt_handoff
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-83-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-83-generic (recovery mode)' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-83-generic-recovery-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-83-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-83-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro recovery nomodeset
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-83-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-78-generic' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-78-generic-advanced-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-78-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-78-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro  quiet splash $vt_handoff
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-78-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-78-generic (recovery mode)' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-78-generic-recovery-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-78-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-78-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro recovery nomodeset
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-78-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-72-generic' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-72-generic-advanced-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-72-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-72-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro  quiet splash $vt_handoff
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-72-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-72-generic (recovery mode)' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-72-generic-recovery-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-72-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-72-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro recovery nomodeset
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-72-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-66-generic' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-66-generic-advanced-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-66-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-66-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro  quiet splash $vt_handoff
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-66-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-66-generic (recovery mode)' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-66-generic-recovery-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-66-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-66-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro recovery nomodeset
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-66-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-64-generic' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-64-generic-advanced-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-64-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-64-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro  quiet splash $vt_handoff
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-64-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-64-generic (recovery mode)' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-64-generic-recovery-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-64-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-64-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro recovery nomodeset
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-64-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-59-generic' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-59-generic-advanced-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-59-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-59-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro  quiet splash $vt_handoff
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-59-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-59-generic (recovery mode)' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-59-generic-recovery-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-59-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-59-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro recovery nomodeset
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-59-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-36-generic' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-36-generic-advanced-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-36-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-36-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro  quiet splash $vt_handoff
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-36-generic
	}
	menuentry 'wattOS-R10-32bit GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.4.0-36-generic (recovery mode)' --class wattos_r10_32bit --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.4.0-36-generic-recovery-f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6' {
		recordfail
		load_video
		insmod gzio
		if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos1'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 4.4.0-36-generic ...'
	        linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-36-generic root=UUID=f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6 ro recovery nomodeset
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-36-generic
	}
}

### END /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###

### END /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###
menuentry 'Memory test (memtest86+)' {
	insmod part_msdos
	insmod ext2
	set root='hd0,msdos1'
	if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
	  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
	else
	  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
	fi
	knetbsd	/boot/memtest86+.elf
}
menuentry 'Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200)' {
	insmod part_msdos
	insmod ext2
	set root='hd0,msdos1'
	if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
	  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
	else
	  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root f53e0d06-294e-4caf-bac2-bb686ac89fa6
	fi
	linux16	/boot/memtest86+.bin console=ttyS0,115200n8
}
### END /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
### END /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_uefi-firmware ###
### END /etc/grub.d/30_uefi-firmware ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
# This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries.  Simply type the
# menu entries you want to add after this comment.  Be careful not to change
# the 'exec tail' line above.
### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###
if [ -f  ${config_directory}/custom.cfg ]; then
  source ${config_directory}/custom.cfg
elif [ -z "${config_directory}" -a -f  $prefix/custom.cfg ]; then
  source $prefix/custom.cfg;
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###

# Ceel @ Wed, 30 Aug 2017 08:24:24 UTC link

It shows SliTaz Live as the first option and the a few other SliTaz options and then a Web something and I think Reboot is the bottom of the list.

This is Syslinux that started the computer.
SliTaz's installer doesn't install Syslinux as bootloader but Grub4dos.
You are booting from a LiveCD/USB, I don't see another solution...

What happens when you start the computer with the LiveCD 4.0 in the CD reader, SliTaz 4.0 or still SliTaz 5.0?

Re-check boot order in setup.

# Fair Peace @ Wed, 30 Aug 2017 17:26:47 UTC link

Hi Ceel - I never made the 5.0 cd as I could never get back into Watt to make it. The CD I have is 4.0 and I am booting to 4.0. I have verified the boot order and it is definitely SATA HD first. I completely understand not seeing another solution....that is why I am so confused. There is definitely no CD or USB in the machine. If this is installed in RAM, can it somehow be booting from RAM?

# Ceel @ Wed, 30 Aug 2017 19:16:50 UTC link

Hi Fair Peace,

I really don't understand how it is possible. If SliTaz was in RAM it would disappear when you switch off the computer.
There are 2 other possible ways:

According to your fdisk -l only sda1 is bootable. You're going to do this:

  1. Do ?
    Switch on the computer and press [F12] (it's generally this key); if your computer have the multiboot feature, you'll access to the multiboot menu and see the different devices on the screen. Note them and copy them in your next post.
    Select the HDD and press [Enter]. Does the computer still boot in SliTaz?
  2. Whatever the distro you've booted in, open the file manager and for the 2 partitions you should be able to see, note the directory tree for /boot and /home

# Fair Peace @ Wed, 30 Aug 2017 20:12:48 UTC link

Thanks for continuing to work with me on this.

F12:
Onboard SATA Hard Drive
ONboard or USB CD-ROM drive
Onboard or USB Floppy Drive
System Setup
Hard Drive Diagnostics
Boot to Utility Partition

Choose the HDD
Booted to SliTaz screen where I make a choice
Chose SliTaz Live
Chose a language
Chose a keyboard

Options in File Manager:
tux
desktop
130 gb volume
20 gb volume

/media
/mnt

The 130 gb volume is my drive that shows my files
The 20gb volume has boot and home in it. I also see a folder called Slitaz in there. And it has the same date as the boot folder.

Does that help?

# Ceel @ Wed, 30 Aug 2017 21:36:39 UTC link

My understanding of your issue:

One day... you installed wattOS on the computer on which was already installed an other OS (Windows ?)
The wattOS's installer created an extended partition (130GB) for him keeping 20 GB for the initial OS on. And wattOS installed Grub2 and overwrote the MBR. You didn't see the old OS and you were a happy man :)

A few days ago, struggling to create a LiveUSB of SliTaz 4.0 you succeeded to do a LiveCD; or you thought... Did this Live boot on another computer?
But finally (I don't know how you did this) you've installed SliTaz 4.0 on the 20GB partition. The SliTaz's installer has overwritten the MBR and install its bootloader. WattOS does probably still exist on the 130GB partition.

To come back to wattOS you have to re-install Grub2 from the wattOS LiveCD. The best is you ask for on wattOS's forum.

But I'd like to confirm this. Please, boot SliTaz; in PCManFM, click on the 20GB partition to mount it. Press [F4] to open a terminal and become root. Intall tree:

tazpkg recharge
tazpkg get-install tree
tree

Copy/paste the tree.

You can also have a look to the contain of the 130GB partition to confirm wattOS is on it.

EDIT: to avoid to have too long posts on the forum, you can paste texts in http://paste.slitaz.org/ . You'll obtain a link that you can post.

# Fair Peace @ Thu, 31 Aug 2017 16:57:11 UTC link

Hi Ceel -

here is the results of tree:

root@slitaz:/home/tux# tree
.
|-- Desktop
| |-- slitaz-doc.desktop
|
|-- Documents
|-- Images
| `-- ASCII
| |-- gnu-linux.txt
| |-- gnu.txt
| |-- tux-mini.txt
| `-- tux.txt
`-- Music

5 directories, 6 files

Also, I find I am really liking the speed of Slitaz and am hoping I can get it to work once I get this other issue figured out. 4.0 was having issues with Midori connecting to most webpages. I am still wanting to try 5.0. Is it up to date or does it have issues as well? I have been reading through the forum, but still wasn't clear on this.

# Ceel @ Thu, 31 Aug 2017 22:48:59 UTC link

Hello Fair Peace,

Hmm, you forgot to select the 20GB partition before pressing [F4]...

Reading again your posts I think I understood where you've made a mistake. If my reasoning is good you
- see the orange menu of SliTaz 4.0 at boot and
- should have something like this at root of the 20GB partition.

Unfortunatly, this doesn't change anything, the MBR has been overwritten... :(

Concerning Midori, yes, its version in SliTaz 4.0 is really old and you can do anything with it. It is much better in SliTaz Rolling (5.0) and you can install Pale Moon that is a web browser based on Firefox but lighter that works well.
SliTaz 5.0 is stable on my computers; this is my main OS.

I am really liking the speed of Slitaz

Yes, that's why my old computers love SliTaz too :)
In your case, if what I think is verified, It's even more true because SliTaz runs in RAM

# Fair Peace @ Fri, 01 Sep 2017 02:47:18 UTC link

oh man....I forgot the 20g part AND the paste bin. I thought I was doing so well!

It sounds like you don't need to see the tree from 20g at this point as it is clear to you that I overwrote the MBR. Is that right? I got some suggestions from the good people at WattOS about how to possibly reinstall and I will work on that. I would still like to try 5.0, but want to avoid this issue when I do. Do you have any idea how I overwrote the MBR or how to prevent doing that?

Also, I would like to be able to try out 5.0 from USB, but could not get that to work. I read the other posts on here and it sounded like I need to make the USBLive from within Slitaz, is that right (I had made it with Unetbootin)? Can It make a 5.0 from the 4.0 I currently have installed? Would you prefer I start a new thread for this question?

Thanks for all your help and patience.

# Ceel @ Fri, 01 Sep 2017 18:52:16 UTC link

Hi again,

oh man....I forgot the 20g part AND the paste bin.

No problem with it :)

Do you have any idea how I overwrote the MBR or how to prevent doing that?

Yes and yes.

I would like to be able to try out 5.0 from USB, but could not get that to work.

Hm hm hm... ;)

# Fair Peace @ Fri, 01 Sep 2017 20:23:32 UTC link

oh holy heck! I just ran Tree (which took a couple of minutes to roll out) and it is very long. I can't figure out how to copy it all as terminal won't let me select anything beyond the top or the bottom of the screen.

I think I will just go with your assessment. I am very surprised and a little embarassed that I made that error with Unetbootin. I know better than that (apparently not...). I will go through your fantastic instructions and try this tomorrow. I will post back any questions or (hopefully) a message of success.

Thanks again!

Zak

# Ceel @ Fri, 01 Sep 2017 20:43:26 UTC link

Forget the tree. Eventually, just look inside the /boot directory if you see one/some rootfs.gz.

I am very surprised and a little embarassed that I made that error with Unetbootin

You know, this is my biggest obsession when I work on my work computer. I've already done this error 5 years ago. Fortunatly, I had entered a bad syntax in the SliTaz's installer and it stopped.
2 years ago, I did it again... I don't know how Windows (7) is installed but it didn't broke anything. I found the bootloader on sda1 that is a hidden partition that windows uses to start but Windows still started normally.

You see, everybody can do it :-/

# Fair Peace @ Sat, 02 Sep 2017 18:53:04 UTC link

Hi Ceel - boy am I on a steep learning curve! I am using Sakura as was able to access root and format the USB. However, when I was trying to figure out how to tell it where the file is, all the commands I know aren't working (cd, dir). After playing with that for a while, I tried the Xterm and it appears to root me right at home/tux (where I saved the file). So, I typed (because I can't figure out how to paste in Xterm) tazusb gen-iso2usb slitaz-rolling-core.iso /dev/sdb. It said it was mounting, installing MBR, Setting as bootable, Mounting USB Target, Copying need files, Installing bootloader. Then it says /dev/sdb: invalid media signature (not a FAT filesystem?)(I formatted as FAT32), the cp:can't stat '/media/cdrom/boot/isolinux/*.txt':no such file or directory and cp:can't stat '/media/cdrom/boot/isolinux/*.kbd':no such file or directory. I typed all that out because I can't figure out how to copy from Xterm. I usually use Ubuntu based systems, so I am learning a lot!

Can you tell what I did wrong? Also, I noticed you recommended core rather than just rolling and I was curious about that.

Thanks!

# Ceel @ Sat, 02 Sep 2017 20:53:36 UTC link

Hi Fair Peace,

You can't figure out how to paste in Xterm? Normal! It's not possible...
But commands are the same in Xterm or Sakura. dir doesn't exist; this is a DOS command; in Linux it's ls. Here is a link that will help you with some ccommands: http://doc.slitaz.org/en:handbook:commands
Normally, when you open Sakura, you are in /home/tux.

Don't worry about cp:can't stat '/media/cdrom/boot/isolinux/*.txt':no such file or directory and cp:can't stat '/media/cdrom/boot/isolinux/*.kbd':no such file or directory messages; it seems to me that is "normal".

But you wrote that you type tazusb gen-iso2usb slitaz-rolling-core.iso /dev/sdb. If you didn't indicate the number of the partition (sdb1) you could have problems. If you really forgot it, format the stick again before starting again from the beginning.

core rather than just Rolling: this is when you use a third party tool (as UNetbootin) to do your Live because "just Rolling" has 4 files rootfs: rootfs4.gz, rootfs3.gz, rootfs2.gz and rootfs1.gz. This allows to boot in 4 ways: Base (console mode only), JustX, GTK only and core. UNetbootin and other Tools don't know installing this. Core has just rootfs.gz that "compiles" the 4 others. If you use tazusb, it doesn't matter.

Formatting your stick FAT32 is not bad but you'll have any persistence of the /home/tux directory.

# Fair Peace @ Mon, 04 Sep 2017 19:58:39 UTC link

And the saga continues...

I did this twice to check my steps. Everything seemed to go fine each time. I then go to boot (tried from laptop and PC) and I get a message that says "vesamenu.c32: not a COM32R image" and then boot:. When I have deen this on other Live USB, I type "live" after boot and all is well. Not here. I did a search on the forum, and it looks like I need to unzip the com32box and vesamenu32 files. I am assuming I then put those on the USB in the syslinux folder....is that right? It sounds like this happened because I made the USB with Slitaz 4.0.

Thanks!

# Fair Peace @ Mon, 04 Sep 2017 21:51:28 UTC link

And....thanks for all the info about using the terminal. It went much smoother this time. You brought up a good point about dir being DOS...however, I could have sworn I had used it in other linux terminals. I tested it today in a Mate terminal and it gave me the directory. I was thinking all linux terminals worked the same, but clearly I am mistaken!

# Ceel @ Tue, 05 Sep 2017 07:00:54 UTC link

vesamenu.c32: not a COM32R image

It looks like if you don't have the good version of Syslinux installed on the stick.
Format it again using tazusb format; choose ext2 or ext3 (default) as you want.
Then retry tazub to create the live.

# Fair Peace @ Tue, 05 Sep 2017 19:13:14 UTC link

Hi Ceel - I tried it again using ext3 and TazUSB. Same problem. This was the problem I was having before and why I then went to creating the LiveCD. I also tried making the USB with Unetbootin and using the Rolling Core ISO I had saved to my computer. I got a Warning! No Configuration File Found message. I am thinking I should just go ahead and make a live CD with the Rolling Core ISO as the vesamenu message was what I was getting before when I was trying to do the LiveUSB from Unetbootin (whether with unetbootin's options of distros or the downloaded 4.0). I think it was during those multiple attempts that the 20g hard drive was somehow selected instead of the USB. I just hate to waste a CD for a 50mb image. As I am writing this, I am realizing that I can try another flash drive to see if I keep getting the same vesamenu problem. I will do that, but I would also like to know if you have any other thoughts. You don't think it is connected to the issue some people seemed to be having when trying to make the 5.0 LiveUSB from a 4.0 Live install? That was what I was referring to in my previous post and they had said something about needing to unzip the contents of the 2.c32 files and put them somewhere.

# Fair Peace @ Tue, 05 Sep 2017 23:17:49 UTC link

I should have posted the link. Here is one of them http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/cannot-boot-live-usb#post-43971

# Fair Peace @ Wed, 06 Sep 2017 01:39:39 UTC link

Holy Toledo! I finally got it! 2 things I did differently....1st, used a different USB. 2nd, when I got the Unetbootin screen, I tried "default", which I didn't realize was an option. I thought that screen (which I had gotten a couple of times during my many tries) meant it hadn't loaded right. Okay! Thank you so much! I am going to go play now. How should I close this ticket?

# ckl036 @ Thu, 07 Sep 2017 06:43:14 UTC link

glad that it finally worked out with all the helps from Ceel.

How should I close this ticket?

You may just scroll to the top, look for "This topic is * not resolved", select "resolved" from the drop-down box, and click on the "Update Status »" button

Package management and orphaned packages

# Filou @ Mon, 28 Aug 2017 21:01:45 UTC link

Hi ray,
sorry, haven't been in the forum for quite some time although SliTaz is still my absoulte favourite.

I updated to a graphical (yad) version of tazorphan, but did not intend to keep up with patches for the quite fast update cycle of tazpkg, so this is standalone, meaning it doesn't keep track of your choices but simply offers those packages for uninstall that no other package depends upon.

So be careful to not just pick any package you are not sure about.

Cheers from Germany and best wishes to Ukraine

# Filou @ Mon, 28 Aug 2017 21:02:54 UTC link

Upload seems not to have gone through:

=================================================

#!/bin/sh

mkdir -p /tmp/ORPHAN
echo > /tmp/ORPHAN/ORPHANS.txt
echo 1 > /tmp/ORPHAN/UNINSTALLED.txt

while [ grep -c 1 /tmp/ORPHAN/UNINSTALLED.txt = "1" ]; do
echo > /tmp/ORPHAN/DEPENDENCIES.txt
CHOICE=""
DESCRIPTION=""

for VERZ in /var/lib/tazpkg/installed/*
do
. $VERZ/receipt
for DEPENDENCY in $DEPENDS
do
echo "$DEPENDENCY" >> /tmp/ORPHAN/DEPENDENCIES.txt
done
done

for VERZ in /var/lib/tazpkg/installed/*
do
PACKAGE=$(basename $VERZ)
if [ -z "sed -n "s/^${PACKAGE}$/&/p" /tmp/ORPHAN/DEPENDENCIES.txt" ] && [ grep -c $PACKAGE /tmp/ORPHAN/ORPHANS.txt = 0 ]; then
CHOICE="$CHOICE FALSE|$PACKAGE|tazpkg -d $PACKAGE | sed '1,3d;$d' | sed '$d'|"
echo $PACKAGE >> /tmp/ORPHAN/ORPHANS.txt
fi
done

echo 0 > /tmp/ORPHAN/UNINSTALLED.txt
IFS="|"
echo $CHOICE > /tmp/ORPHAN/CHOICE.txt

yad --list --fullscreen --text "Pick orphaned Packages to uninstall" --multiple --checklist --column="Pick" --column="PACKAGE" --column "Description" ${CHOICE} --print-column=2 --separator=" " --button="Uninstall" --button="cancel" | while read PKG; do
echo 1 > /tmp/ORPHAN/UNINSTALLED.txt
echo y | tazpkg -r $PKG
done
done

rm -r /tmp/ORPHAN

# Filou @ Mon, 28 Aug 2017 21:04:08 UTC link

Maybe as .txt ?!

# ray @ Tue, 29 Aug 2017 13:28:07 UTC link

Hi Filou,

Thanks for you reply! I created script file "tazorphan.sh" and changed the first line to "#!/bin/sh -x" for tracing.

Here is output in terminal:
root@lx:~/Downloads# ./tazorphan.sh
+ mkdir -p /tmp/ORPHAN
+ echo
+ echo 1
+ [ grep -c 1 /tmp/ORPHAN/UNINSTALLED.txt = 1 ]
sh: -c: unknown operand

It seems something wrong with grep in script line:
while [ grep -c 1 /tmp/ORPHAN/UNINSTALLED.txt = "1" ]
Any ideas?

Also, would you mind to communicate via online messenger?
If so, please let me know your preferable app to my email: vray731 at gmail.com

# Aleksej @ Tue, 29 Aug 2017 15:17:42 UTC link

Hi there,

2Filou,

I see it from time to time: this forum engine is not intended to share your scripts. Symbol "backtick" here have special meaning: text inserted between two backticks becomes monospaced and the entire backticks become hidden. It will break many of shell scripts, definitely.

I even can't make it visible in my post, so here image from Wikipedia:

You could use another (recommended) script syntax for subshell code, leaving backticks for old-fashioned bearded shell-script programmers (oh, sorry, your avatar is bearded Fry ☺ nothing personal):

a=$(date)

I've put your script (slightly formatted, as I like) here:
https://gist.github.com/lexeii/9d3b2eb3cc94a099942a4ed30e6c8ec8

# Filou @ Tue, 29 Aug 2017 20:03:31 UTC link

Thanx a lot for the lesson of "up-to-date-and-leading-edge-shell-programming" to an old-fashioned beared shell-programmer .... who is (which is worse) apart from that an autodidactic amateur (and really wears a beard)... ;-)

No, honestly, thank you, I was not aware of that simpler and more elegant version of shell script... helps a lot (for all the other scripts where I am angry about not getting the results I intended...)

Your upload on github looks more than what I did myself (all the indents were removed in the post, which is why it looks extra-ugly), apart from the a=$(date) and the distributed yad options...

Do you know by the way, why the uploads are not accepted by the forum, although they are text files which should be permitted?

Thanks again and best regards,

Filou

# Aleksej @ Tue, 29 Aug 2017 23:00:35 UTC link

About backticks/backquotes versus dollar-parentheses you can find many notes in the internet, for example, this.

And this is not means that I'm an advanced shell-programmer. Nope ☺

Guthub's gist is not a repository. It's the place to share thoughts and to collaborate. So I think it's normally.

why the uploads are not accepted by the forum

I'll start from afar. SliTaz network consists of 3 servers: Tank, Mirror, and Pangolin. This forum is on Pangolin, and better I'll not touch it. There's another admins.

In forum settings that available for me (I'm one of forum admins too), I not found any upload settings. AFAIK, this permission-related question was already fixed few years ago. But looks like it broke again?

Best regards

# Filou @ Fri, 01 Sep 2017 17:01:12 UTC link

While thinking of possible improvements of my rudimentary tries I just recognized that I have somehow been slightly on the wrong trail.

My idea was to set up some sort of "tracking mechanism" in order to distinguish intentionally installed packages from the dependencies installed with them in a "database" / file.

Now I realized that this is absolutely unnecessary:

Presuming, that the user has a system set up to his wishes (otherwise the tazorphan_yad might help to identify those packages that might not be necessary on the system but have been installed nonetheless), all we need is a routine that checks, if NEW orphancies popped up after removal of a package.

This is what I set up now in the script I put on github (thanx to Alekseys example) under
https://gist.github.com/F1lou/c7cb839dfed6e86268045bba9ca86685

You just invoke it by its name (presuming you put it somewhere on your drive, cd'ed there in the shell, chmod'ed it executable) and the package to be removed:

root@slitaz:/mnt/Scripts#./remorphan asunder

Kleanny - The Cache Cleaner.

# hackdorte @ Tue, 29 Aug 2017 15:27:36 UTC link

I'm excited to announce Kleanny for cleaning files and application caches on SliTaz 5. It is in the initial level. For questions, please read the Kleanny page or post in the forum.

Installation and Information:

http://people.slitaz.org/~leonardolaporte/sh/kleanny/

Please try and test.

Thanks ;)

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# hackdorte @ Fri, 01 Sep 2017 19:04:36 UTC link

Kleanny v1.0.1 :: New updates. Cook Page

Quit App and typo fixes.

- Thanks @Paul.

install libreoffice in live-distribution

# Nabuchodonosor @ Tue, 29 Aug 2017 18:16:14 UTC link

Bonsoir.
J'ai posté http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/installation-de-paquet-conversion-de-masse-et-creation-de-recette?replies=3#post-45193

lm2 m'a répondu et j'ai continué sur son impulsion en m'appuyant sur les informations de votre post.
Perfect.
Menu peuplé et lien adapté
Merci

I cant install flashplayer plugin for firefox

# tommyMX @ Wed, 30 Aug 2017 02:24:13 UTC link

hello i need help to install flash on slitaz rolling

I usually installed flash by copy the flashplayer.so of the file flash_player_npapi_linux.i386.tar.gz on this folder

/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins

and thats was all

but with the last rolling iso

i cant do like always

any clue?

# Ceel @ Wed, 30 Aug 2017 07:45:18 UTC link

Hi,

Did you try to install it with the get-flash-plugin package?

# tommyMX @ Thu, 31 Aug 2017 04:49:48 UTC link

yes i try but the get-flash-plugin install flash player for opera browser

today i install opera 45 on slitaz rolling
by downloading the rpm pakage from the official page and convert with tazpkg to try if the flash installed with the script work but don't work for me :(

# lm2 @ Thu, 31 Aug 2017 12:31:54 UTC link

i advice you to deal with flashplayer through google chrome, which is the only browser to manage it well. available on taz5

# hackdorte @ Thu, 31 Aug 2017 12:55:15 UTC link

Open Opera Settings And Search: Flash

Enable Flash.
https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/enabling-flash-player-opera.html

[attachment=45225,2543]

# tommyMX @ Wed, 06 Sep 2017 03:46:56 UTC link

hello again

Finally i have succes to install flashplayer plugin for firefox base browsers

only after installing this package libglu-mesa from tazpkg

and move as root the libflashplayer.so from the flash_player_npapi_linux.i386.tar.gz

to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins

and after that i go to about:addons in palemoon,seamonkey and firefox official

and there apears the flash plugin detected.

[attachment=45284,2555]

slitaz 4.0 live - boot failure - VFS open root device "(null)" or unknown-block (0,66)

# stevewalsh @ Wed, 30 Aug 2017 08:22:42 UTC link

Hello,

Please can someone advise what I should do ?
The live slitaz 4.0 (stable) image is booting from USB (UNetbootin)

I've attached a picture of the screen I get.

Is it safe to append existing disk (sda1) without corrupting/overwriting existing (Lubuntu) install?
Can I append USB disk (sda5) for mounting /root ?

Thanks.

[attachment=45204,2540]

# Ceel @ Wed, 30 Aug 2017 08:29:51 UTC link

Hi,

What ISO did you use to create the Live?
Did you let UNetBootin load it or did you use the ISO from your HD?

# stevewalsh @ Wed, 30 Aug 2017 08:36:22 UTC link

Thank you for the very quick reply.

http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/slitaz/iso/4.0/slitaz-4.0.iso (34.7 MiB - 36,419,584 bytes)

I downloaded the ISO (conveniently small) and pointed UNetbootin at that.

# Ceel @ Wed, 30 Aug 2017 08:48:36 UTC link

This is the 4-in-1 ISO (multi rootfs). It cannot work with UNetBootin.
Use the core ISO: http://mirror1.slitaz.org/iso/4.0/flavors/slitaz-4.0-core.iso

# Ceel @ Wed, 30 Aug 2017 08:50:29 UTC link

But you'd better to use the rolling ISO: http://mirror1.slitaz.org/iso/rolling/slitaz-rolling-core.iso

# stevewalsh @ Wed, 30 Aug 2017 08:58:29 UTC link

Thanks, I'll use that.

Would UNetbootin have used the correct version if I'd let it download Slitaz ?
It offers the choice of "Stable_Live" and "Cooking_Live".

# Ceel @ Wed, 30 Aug 2017 09:18:37 UTC link

No. Stable and cooking are both multi-rootfs versions and are not compatible with third party tools.

# stevewalsh @ Wed, 30 Aug 2017 09:45:42 UTC link

No joy...

Different problem though...

What next ?

[attachment=45212,2541]

# stevewalsh @ Wed, 30 Aug 2017 09:47:55 UTC link

This was using UNetbootin with http://mirror1.slitaz.org/iso/rolling/slitaz-rolling-core.iso

Thanks in advance.

# Ceel @ Wed, 30 Aug 2017 10:26:59 UTC link

Syslinux 6.03?
Seems to me Syslinux 4.05 should be installed. Did your USB media fresh formated FAT32
I don't remember UNetbootin installed Syslinux 6.03 last time I used it.

# stevewalsh @ Wed, 30 Aug 2017 12:24:09 UTC link

That sorted it !

I'd let UNetbootin overwrite everything but clearly it didn't work...

Re-format and then UNetbootin with the slitaz-rolling-core.iso booted first time...

Thanks again for your help, signing off to install slitaz on this laptop now... (alongside existing Lubuntu hopefully!)

Cheers...

10-in-1 ver.5 Little ISSUES in version 5

# Timmi @ Thu, 31 Aug 2017 02:41:11 UTC link

Firefox ESR 17.x plays videos on youtube, but:
* no sound in youtube
* youtube login: after entering the username, the login screen's "NEXT" is unresponsive, to continue to the password screen. it seems like something in google/youtube login is blocked by FF esr.

Sound
* see previous point under FF. I haven't tried anything else yet.
(unless I am overlooking it, I do not see any sound control in the panel)

Network connection worked out of the box (ethernet), BUT:
* unable to get Ethernet to work again, after testing WiFi.
(I tried both static and dhcp. I have a cable-modem with a dynamic IP that changes once a day after midnight)

Brightness levels, increments are too large:
* there are only 6 brightness levels, and choosing one in the evening, in a dimly-lit room, results in the screen being either too bright or too dim. Need finer increments (more granular control).

Mouse Gestures on touchpad:
* how to make simple mouse gestures work? Example: 2fingers on the touchpad to scroll up and down in programs and browser? I was unable to find a place where to set this.

Missing:
* the documentation refers to a menu entry to check your system (under system tools). it's not there.

Any help will be appreciated.

# Timmi @ Sun, 01 Oct 2017 21:06:38 UTC link

Any help on at least:
Sound
Network connection
?

Turbine - The Memory Cleaner.

# hackdorte @ Thu, 31 Aug 2017 14:03:32 UTC link

Turbine v1.0 has been released. Free up memory with the Turbine ;)

http://people.slitaz.org/~leonardolaporte/sh/turbine

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is the jwm function "StartupCommand" in LXDE available?

# oui @ Thu, 31 Aug 2017 21:20:31 UTC link

and, if yes, how to?

# roadkill13 @ Sat, 02 Sep 2017 01:53:40 UTC link

"StartupCommand" is a function of JWM. It is availabe when JWM is installed and is implemented by JWM when it starts. If JWM is not present or is not the default window manager then of course the function will not be available.

There is a folder named autostart inside the hidden directory .config in the user's home directory. I currently have LXRandR autostart in that folder. This manages my external monitor.

LXQt

# oui @ Thu, 31 Aug 2017 22:16:30 UTC link

hm, I did install now LXQt, it was probably a great error?

After restart, slim is not operable any more. it requires a window manager not beeing in the system (in Debian, I use JWM, because of old SliTaz! I did never understand why people prefer, OVER LXQt etc., somewhat being really a lot greater than JWM and does, at least, enormous less... JWM was our system, is installable, but the adequate menu management, it was present!!!, not any more).

So...

LXQt is installed.

After trying to start, after login, a little windows open an requise those ominous first window manager.

I did install JWM under 'root'

Under root, I can start with LXQt and JWM in the background.

Under "tux", nothing more...

Was is to do correctly to start LXQt after installation?

# oui @ Thu, 31 Aug 2017 22:39:47 UTC link

no way actually to restart the system as user tux any more...

login as root is no problem. hitting on /etc/xdg/autostart/lxpanel.desktop starts lxpanel again... as root.

the problem seems to be, that the session lxqt is not required active.

change only into /etc/slim.conf bring nothing good (place lxqt in first position of the list of theoreticaly available window manager,

where is the place for it?

# mojo @ Fri, 01 Sep 2017 04:09:21 UTC link

Slim uses .xinitrc to start $WINDOW_MANAGER
$WINDOW_MANAGER is set in applications.conf
global=> /etc/slitaz/applications.conf
user override=> .config/slitaz/applications.conf
/etc/skel has defaults of these files for new user account creation.
tazx choose wm_apps to configure applications.conf

jwm flavor configurations from 2014:
jwm flavor: http://hg.slitaz.org/flavors/file/188d9ee8e01e/jwm/rootfs/etc/slitaz/applications.conf
jwm config file: http://hg.slitaz.org/flavors/file/188d9ee8e01e/jwm/rootfs/etc/xdg/jwm/system.jwmrc
jwm package list: http://hg.slitaz.org/flavors/file/188d9ee8e01e/jwm/packages.list

Erro "Could not find kernel image: vesamenu.c32" no VirtualBox

# josedasilvasauro @ Thu, 31 Aug 2017 22:17:43 UTC link

Sempre utilizei o Slitaz via virtualbox, pelo tamanho reduzido da distro e do baixo consumo de memória e processamento. Porém, ao tentar fazer uma instalação da versão rolling ele não dá boot após a instalação. Ocorre o seguinte erro: "Could not find kernel image: vesamenu.c32".

Tentei com todas as iso. que haviam no link das "rolling" e, todas estão com o md5 correto. Não sei o que esta acontecendo. Só para constar, todas as outras distros que tento instalar no virtualbox rodam sem problemas. Esse erro só ocorre com o Slitaz.

# Ceel @ Fri, 01 Sep 2017 21:20:16 UTC link

Tested with Virtualbox 4.2.6_OSE.
Cannot reproduce the issue.

# josedasilvasauro @ Fri, 01 Sep 2017 22:59:09 UTC link

@Ceel aqui o VirtualBox (5.1.26), ele tá rodando via Manjaro. Vou tentar reinstalar o virtualbox e ver o que acontece.

claws-mail configured to use SSL - error "SSL handshake failed"

# stevewalsh @ Fri, 01 Sep 2017 02:53:38 UTC link

Hello,

Can anyone help please ?
I've configured claws-mail in slitaz (rolling-core 5.0) in EXACTLY the same way as I've configured it in other linux distro's (Lubuntu & Fedora) and also Windows.
Specifically (https://help.1and1.co.uk/mail-c65093/1and1-mail-basic-c40987/getting-started-c43521/set-up-e-mail-clients-using-imap-or-pop3-a619070.html)
Setting IMAP
Incoming Server imap.1and1.co.uk
Port with SSL enabled 993
Outgoing Server (SMTP) auth.smtp.1and1.co.uk
Outgoing port with TLS enabled 587
Outgoing server requires authentication
(user name and password)? Yes

Yet I get the error "SSL handshake failed" with the same settings in slitaz

Any ideas ?

(If I disable SSL and just use standard ports 143 and 25 then everything works, but that isn't a solution I want to use)

Thanks in advance,
Steve

# mojo @ Fri, 01 Sep 2017 05:02:07 UTC link

Sylpheed worked for me on imap4 ssl where claws-mail failed with SSL handshake error.
Not sure if TLS will work as it's not required on my server.

# az_ua @ Fri, 01 Sep 2017 08:30:31 UTC link

Did you tried this package?
http://pkgs.slitaz.org/?info=cacerts
Just install...Gnutls must use it too:
http://hg.slitaz.org/wok/file/tip/gnutls/receipt#l41

# stevewalsh @ Fri, 01 Sep 2017 12:13:31 UTC link

Thank you for the replies...

I've installed cacerts (and gnutls) and still get the handshake error

TazPkg Activity
================================================================================
01/09/17 10:59:55 : Installed gnutls (3.3.16)
01/09/17 10:56:40 : Installed cacerts (20170224)

*** SSL handshake failed

Anything else I can try ?

Thanks

# stevewalsh @ Wed, 06 Sep 2017 22:37:41 UTC link

I have just installed an available update to Claws-Mail (updated to 3.15.1) and SSL with IMAP now works.
Thank you to the developers :-)

changed google-chrome-stable

# Iamgeek @ Fri, 01 Sep 2017 12:38:28 UTC link

Try this guide to fix chrome error: http://errorcodespro.com/how-to-fix-chromes-err_spdy_protocol_error/

logout/reboot delay

# Ceel @ Fri, 01 Sep 2017 20:27:01 UTC link

Aleksej,

You saved me!

Without the 5 seconds delay I'd have lost all my work. I realized that I didn't save it when there was only one second left...

Thank you for this idea of genius!

# Aleksej @ Fri, 01 Sep 2017 20:30:51 UTC link

You're lucky guy! :)

Have a nice day.

gdisk aka gptfdisk

# nigel harrison @ Sun, 03 Sep 2017 21:39:29 UTC link

Slitaz5. Any possibility of getting gdisk aka gptfdisk into the repository. Have tried to convert an older deb package to taxpkg which after conversion then running returned an error ".... libicuio.so.48: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" This library is also not in the repository and I'm reluctant to try and compile it from source.

# mojo @ Mon, 04 Sep 2017 01:22:27 UTC link

Here you go.

my try of wallpaper

# tommyMX @ Mon, 04 Sep 2017 06:52:14 UTC link

hello i made this two little images on blender

and the slitaz spider logo on inkscape

thath my little contribution to slitaz

[attachment=45265,2551]

# Red @ Mon, 04 Sep 2017 17:47:57 UTC link

my kind of colour, looks good .

# tommyMX @ Wed, 06 Sep 2017 04:01:01 UTC link

my wall paper made with blender

[attachment=45285,2556]

# tommyMX @ Wed, 06 Sep 2017 04:05:51 UTC link

the second image

[attachment=45286,2557]

HP Lazer Jet M1132MFP

# andreid @ Tue, 05 Sep 2017 12:19:26 UTC link

Алексей,
так и не запускается HP )

andreid@slitaz:~$ hp-toolbox

HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.12.11)
HP Device Manager ver. 15.0

Copyright (c) 2001-14 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, LP
This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it
under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details.

error: Unable to load DBus libraries. Please check your installation and try again.

Problem with archive softwares

# Daniel8 @ Tue, 05 Sep 2017 20:36:14 UTC link

Hello,

I have installed and try severals softwares archiver buI have installed and tried several archived files, but none of them appear in applications and works to extract a .zip or .tar.gz file.....

i have installed the newslitaz rolling as each week.

what to do please ?

How to install Flashls for Firefox or Palemoon

# Daniel8 @ Tue, 05 Sep 2017 20:46:49 UTC link

Hello,

i have need of install Flashls http://flashls.org/

for watch a video, but how to do it ?

in first i have need of a archiver software who works of course... :)

thanks

# kultex @ Wed, 06 Sep 2017 07:47:21 UTC link

there is a search button in the forum

http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/i-cant-install-flashplayer-plugin-for-firefox#post-45202

Date stuck and never changeing (the same date of roughly 1 year ago)

# masterforest @ Wed, 06 Sep 2017 15:54:50 UTC link

Hi everyone, my old laptop with slitaz 4 is stuck at a one year ago date (the clock goes on, pointlessly, of course). It never bugged me so I did not fix it, untill now that I have noticed that it does not let me access the most trusted sites because they have, of course, invalid security certificate "from the future".
Please answer, thank y'all.

# hackdorte @ Wed, 06 Sep 2017 16:14:57 UTC link

Open the terminal and login as root.

$ su
$ **password**

Open settings, run:

# tazbox setup

**Choose the options for your country.**

After you finish, run:

# tazpkg recharge
# tazpkg get-install cacerts --forced
# tazpkg clean-cache
# reboot

# masterforest @ Fri, 15 Sep 2017 05:35:28 UTC link

hi hackdorte, thank you.
this command> tazpkg get-install cacerts --forced
it told me that wasnt possible to get, I went on anyway w/ the reboot, it didn't work, same stuck date.

# Bellard @ Fri, 15 Sep 2017 10:03:14 UTC link

Try to add in your /etc/init.d/local.sh:

ntpd -p pool.ntp.org && hwclock -w -l

# masterforest @ Fri, 15 Sep 2017 20:17:04 UTC link

Hi Bellard
how should i add it? just at the end of the shell script?

# Bellard @ Fri, 15 Sep 2017 22:35:17 UTC link

> how should i add it? just at the end of the shell script?

yes:
# echo 'ntpd -p pool.ntp.org && hwclock -w -l' >> /etc/init.d/local.sh

note you can change the cmos battery btw...

# masterforest @ Fri, 15 Sep 2017 23:42:43 UTC link

I added to the local.sh file but it does not let me save it (replace it, really), it says the file is unwriteable. i guess I have to be logged as root or something, how do i do that? Thanks, sorry I'm not very good w/ computers

# masterforest @ Fri, 15 Sep 2017 23:48:55 UTC link

I went around it and I created a new file and called local.sh but doesnt work

# masterforest @ Fri, 15 Sep 2017 23:49:42 UTC link

what's taht thing about the battery you were saying?

# kultex @ Sat, 16 Sep 2017 09:28:03 UTC link

it does not let you save the file, because you have to do it as root

how your local.sh looks like now?

and search the internet about cmos battery together with the name of your laptop

Issue when downloading and installing packages

# guest_account @ Thu, 07 Sep 2017 18:52:48 UTC link

Using slitaz 5.0 RC4 rev 2017-01-15

When installing with tazpkg -gi <package> the download % progress is shown only when package finished downloading and it's beginning to install. I notice in the % progress that the download of a package often began with 0%, with some pack of Kb downloaded at this point.

Until now packages seem to have been correctly downloaded and installed despite this issue when it happens, but I would like to be more sure. Is this an issue I need to worry about? If it happens, should I better uninstall and download/install package again?
Or no problem at all?

# Aleksej @ Fri, 08 Sep 2017 02:28:10 UTC link

Hi,

Tis issue was fixed 7 month ago, in the tazpkg revision 938.

Notes to the rev. 937:

modules/get: make wget progress metter working again
Now, Busybox v. 1.26 make the difference whether it outputs progress meter to the file or to the tty (libbb/progress.c).
Bug report: http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/two-issues-with-tazpkg-934

Life goes on.
But SliTaz 5RC4 is never be something else... Use Rolling! (weekly)

# guest_account @ Mon, 11 Sep 2017 18:04:04 UTC link

So tried running an update on RC4 rev 2017-01-15, tazpkg got updated and I saw progress metter got back to what it should be.

But still seeing the 0% start "issue". For example, when trying to install cacerts package (both either in old and latest tazpkg versions), in progress metter it normally starts at something like 5%, 13%, etc. But with droid-font package it now *always* starts counting at 0%, and some 2 weeks ago this was not the case, it normally started at 1 or 2%. Same with the gtk+3 package, although not always like droid-font, but often indeed.
Probably this also has to do with the fact that mirror1.slitaz.org (the mirror I always use) seems to have been kind of slow lately? And I don't know why...

Again, packages seem to have been correctly downloaded and installed despite this issue until now, but still... Is this an issue I need to worry about? When it happens, should I better uninstall and download/install package again?

And just as a small offtopic of the thread, when live booting this slitaz rev (from the cd) and hitting the tab key in one of the available languages in the language menu, I see options for locale, key layout, and time zone as well. The first 2 fields work well, but the time zone field always seems to be ignored; I always have to manually set it once slitaz boots.
Is this bug already fixed in latest rolling?

Thanks.

# Aleksej @ Mon, 11 Sep 2017 20:17:03 UTC link

Hi,

I want you to know these percents isn't issue. They intended for impatient users only :)

You may tell something: oh well, these percents are updates regularly, about once a second. If it downloaded already 10% for 1 second it will need also 9 seconds to be completed. Oh no, it stucks. Well. At least these percents are changed...


I hope you will find now that download speed may be unstable, as well as why you may get 12% on the first second.

The script that downloads and installs packages does not take percents into account.
If error occured during download - it let you know.
After package download complete it checks it's integrity - if it's broken it let you know.
Even if package is installed successfully - it let you know too.

So, don't warry - be happy :)

# guest_account @ Tue, 12 Sep 2017 00:37:31 UTC link

Aah, thanks again.

Finally, could you help with a small offtopic?
When live booting this slitaz rev (from the cd) and hitting the tab key in one of the available languages in the language menu, I see options for locale, key layout, and time zone as well. The first 2 fields work well, but the time zone field always seems to be ignored; I always have to manually set it once slitaz boots.
Is this bug already fixed in latest rolling?

# Aleksej @ Tue, 12 Sep 2017 01:22:07 UTC link

I believe this hot change should fix the issue: http://hg.slitaz.org/slitaz-boot-scripts/rev/443

So, please update your slitaz-boot-scripts package to version 443 visiting the page, choosing Download and then installing downloaded package.

Please, also update your slitaz-base-files package to version 331 here in the same way. Updating this package is important, or boot options will not be processed.

Alternatively, you may wait for our repository mirror updating (yesterday or one day forth) and update these package in the usual way (with tazpkg recharge; tazpkg up; or with TazPanel).

And of course, you may wait the Sunday and download the Live CD image with all the updated packages: http://mirror.slitaz.org/iso/rolling/

Dual Boot with Lubuntu

# Fair Peace @ Fri, 08 Sep 2017 03:17:04 UTC link

Hello again! I have installed Slitaz on a laptop that already had Lubuntu on it. First, I used Gparted and resized the partition Lubuntu was on so that I could have a second partition with Slitaz. All went well. When I rebooted, however, all that I see is the menu to choose Slitaz. I would like to be able to choose from Lubuntu and Slitaz. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks!

Zak

# kultex @ Fri, 08 Sep 2017 06:48:17 UTC link

there are search machines - some examples:

http://yetanotheropinon.blogspot.co.at/2014/02/dual-boot-slitaz-linux-and-linux-mint.html

https://boff.wordpress.com/2007/01/17/editing-bootgrubmenulst-to-change-the-grub-boot-menu/

you have to edit the slitaz menu.lst and add something like this

title Lubuntu
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-xxxxxxxx-generic root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-xxxxxxxx-generic
quiet
savedefault
boot

you can can open the first hard disk in Slitaz and you will find the correct name of vmlinuz and initrd.img

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Mobile Crushing Station on Green Construction

# dongfang @ Tue, 12 Sep 2017 08:55:57 UTC link

The handling way on the construction rubbish is to expand the scale of the occupying ares, but the land resource is limited, which cannot be all covered by the continuous increasing construction rubbish.
The continuous accumulation of those construction rubbish not only wastes a lot of land resources, but also can it cost so much to pay for the building-up, maintenance of the operation station and refuse station. If there is no one better and more reasonable way to process the construction rubbish, which will cause the more serious pollution on the city environment, and the appearance of construction waste crusher will greatly solve this problem, and helps to bring one green revolution for the city construction industry.
Mobile crushing station is consist of vibrating feeder, jaw crusher, impact crusher, vibrating screen and so on, and the construction rubbish can be used in different fields after being experienced some processes including crushing and screening. At the same time, mobile crushing station has some features such as mobility, flexibility, strong motility and so on, which can greatly decrease the transportation cost, so it can contribute so much to the environment improved. Shanghai SBM mining machinery has all types of mobile crushing stations, which can satisfy the different requirement of the customers.

Test Linux Slitaz 5 rc4 Mountbox

# alexx @ Wed, 13 Sep 2017 14:13:48 UTC link

Add Mountbox and Autostart Application like in 4.0 excellent tools, add in standart packeges

[attachment=45308,2558]

dd if=/home/tux/slitaz-rolling.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M;sync

scompattare rootfs.gz

# nik57 @ Wed, 13 Sep 2017 16:56:50 UTC link

non riesco a scompattare i file gz n'è l'origìginale, nè quello creato (personalizzato)....

lzma -d rootfs.gz -so | cpio -id mo restituisce

lzma: opzione non valida -- "s"
lzma: Provare "lzma --help" per maggiori informazioni.
cpio: fine prematura dell'archivio

# gibor @ Wed, 13 Sep 2017 18:13:23 UTC link

è probabile che tu stia usando un LZMA diverso da quello originale di Slitaz (non è standard)
prova così
lzma -d rootfs.gz -c | cpio -id

# nik57 @ Thu, 14 Sep 2017 17:27:59 UTC link

tank....
perfetto, come sempre.....

disegnare frecce/linee ecc su immagini....

# nik57 @ Thu, 14 Sep 2017 17:34:04 UTC link

ancora una richiesta,

su ubuntu uso shutter per disegnare frecce/linee, inserire testo su immagini o screenshot; l'ho installato su slitaz (la 5 stabile) ma fa solo screen....

qualche suggerimento per un programma simile (non mi interessa modificare a fondo, no gimp...)

# gibor @ Fri, 15 Sep 2017 20:52:43 UTC link

C'è Mtpaint che è compreso... fa le linee, testo, e freccie piene e vuote. Cosa gli manca per il tuo semplice uso?

# nik57 @ Fri, 15 Sep 2017 21:32:43 UTC link

....non riesco a capire come fare le frecce! eppure credo di averlo controllato per bene;
guide in rete in italiano zero....

# gibor @ Fri, 15 Sep 2017 22:23:27 UTC link

Immaginavo che fosse quello il problema :)
Tre passi da fare per ottenere le frecce.
Un'immagine vale molto di più delle parole, vedi se riesci a capire come si fa. Altrimenti provo a spiegartelo meglio.

[attachment=45321,2559]

# nik57 @ Sat, 16 Sep 2017 07:40:15 UTC link

ok...capito;
meglio di quanto pensassi, ottimo per le mie necessità

change permissions on documents

# Red @ Fri, 15 Sep 2017 21:45:08 UTC link

Hi it's me again, I have a question about permisson changes of documents.
For example if I download a JPG file, it shows at the tab permissions
OWNER tux
GROUP user

VIEW content anyone
CHANGE content only owner
EXECUT nobody

The words tux and user are grey
This file is read only, other files have the words tux and user in black, there I can change the permissions
but when I close the window it changes back.

The same thing happens with office documents, if I make something in calc. put it on a stick and open it
in an other computer, it becomes read only.

Anyone an idea what I'm doing wrong ?

# Red @ Mon, 09 Oct 2017 07:39:10 UTC link

Anyone ?

# HGT @ Tue, 10 Oct 2017 14:58:40 UTC link

@Red

Same problem on my SliTaz systems, still worse: I found no file, where user and group name are not grey.
I think you are not doing anything wrong, but pcmanfm seems to be buggy.

# Aleksej @ Tue, 10 Oct 2017 16:24:35 UTC link

Hi there,

I see nothing wrong here.
Only root super-user can change files ownership.
What's wrong that your file owns your user and your user group?

OWNER tux
CHANGE content only owner
This file is read only

This file isn't read-only. User tux can change it.

I can change the permissions

Please, split one from another. There's ownership:

OWNER tux
GROUP user

And there's permissions:

VIEW content anyone
CHANGE content only owner
EXECUT nobody

Your user isn't super-user, so you're not able to change ownership of ANY files, even of your files.
But you able to change permissions of your files.

other files have the words tux and user in black

Please give me some examples.

You can found something useful searching and reading on the term "linux permissions 101". Something like this:
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/linux-101-file-permissions-from-the-gui-point-of-view/

# Red @ Tue, 10 Oct 2017 22:46:01 UTC link

Maybe my original post wasn’t clear.

I tried to cut a long story short because writing involves a translation site with a dictionary on line,
since English is not my native language , so it takes a long time.
But here is the problem :

At work we use a windows computer.
I often take work home, my windows computer spit out its hard drive, a new hard drive plus new windows cost me to much and new windows does not work on this nine year old beast anyway, so linux was ( and is ) the answer.
I use Slitas 5.3 rc installed on a 4 GB USB stick as well as on a 4 GB SD cart.
If I make a Calc.file in Libre Office and bring it to work, it opens in the windows computer, but it’s read only.
I have installed Libre Office in the windows computer, but it still is read only.
So I fired up the windows computer from the USB stick but no joy it still opens as read only.
If I take the stick home and use it in my computer it works fine BUT ( here it becomes interesting )
If I do this a couple of times it also becomes read only in the original computer and I can’t do anything with it anymore, I can’t even put it in the trash.
The only way to get rid of it, is formatting the USB stick !
The same happens with pictures, it does not matter if I have them from the internet, or if I have taken them myself, I can not cut and paste them, sometimes I can’t even copy them, and again if I have tried it a couple of times in can’t even do anything with them any more.

Red

# Aleksej @ Wed, 11 Oct 2017 01:19:41 UTC link

The long story is much better! Thx for describing.

I've made a bootable USB-stick too, and used it in the computer at work.
USB-stick is splitted into 2 partitions: first is FAT32 formatted, while second is in Ext3.
FAT32 is for files interchange with the Windows, Ext3 is for any files I use on Linux.

SliTaz was installed onto FAT partition, /home also resides here.
And I found that SliTaz don't like FAT.
It works with it, but...
It don't like any non-ASCII symbols in the file name (please check if it your case).
It can't change the file in the root of the USB-stick (it mounted as /home, and seems I have no permissions to change/save files - check please this case too). But I can save this file onto my home folder, for example to /home/tux/Documents (that for Windows is USB-sticktuxDocuments folder) and to work with it, changing and saving it.

Really, SliTaz working with the FAT partition (that intended to be the /home) using special tool called posixovl. And seems it have some restrictions.

So, as conclusions:

 
Good luck!

# HGT @ Wed, 11 Oct 2017 11:38:19 UTC link

@Aleksej

Good morning Aleksej,

you are right in one point:
ownership of a file can be changed only by privileged user (root).
When pcmanfm is started with
sudo pcmanfm
ownership of files can be changed.

But a nonprivileged user can change the group access right for his own files using
chgrp <new_group_name> <file_name>
where new_group_name must be one of the users (secondary) groups.
Because pcmanfm (in non privileged mode) does not offer this function, I think this to be a bug in pcmanfm.
There is no problem in changing other access rights of local files owned by the caller of pcmanfm.

# Aleksej @ Wed, 11 Oct 2017 11:56:11 UTC link

Good morning Hans-Günter,

Thank you for the additions.
You're absolutely right.

Have a nice day!

# Red @ Thu, 12 Oct 2017 20:52:02 UTC link

Hi Aleksej

I have Slitaz installed on a SD cart formatted EXT 2 ( same go’s for the USB stick )
I’m not using a separate partition for home, the files I transfer to an other computer
I do by a FAT 32 formatted USB stick.
Today I did some experiments and found the following :

*) If I make a calc. (ods) file in Slitaz, it becomes read only in Win 7 and 10, Linux Slax and Linux Mint.
( I’m not using Slax or Mint, it was just to see what would happen )
*) If I make a calc. File in Win7, Win10, Slax or Mint, I can open en work on it everywhere , also in Slitaz.
So although I don’t know what the problem is, the solution is easy : I just started a couple of empty ods files in win10 and than fill them in slitaz when I need them, work’s well.

*) With jpg it’s not that simple, the problem there is not constant, about 60% of the time there is no problem, but when you’r not expecting it, you find that the jpg files you need are read only, so you can’t cut and paste.

If you then look at the permissions, nothing is different from the other files that you can cut and past.
I have wiped the Sd cart and installed Slitaz on the EXT 3 format : No joy, nothing was changed.
Then I wiped the SD cart again en installed Slitas on the EXT 4 format : Again nothing changed.
I’m back on EXT 2 because when firing it up there are some worrying texts during the boot.
Things like : EXT3 fs (sda1) error could not mount because of unsupported optional features (240)
or : EXT4 fs (sda1) error could not mount as EXT2 due to features incompatebility.

Red

PS. I can't open the link you send

R.

# Aleksej @ Thu, 12 Oct 2017 21:53:46 UTC link

Hi Red,

Well. There may be two sorts of problem.

First, problems on the USB-Flash (SD-card, Memory stick...). Sometimes, in the case of some unrecovered errors, the controller (internal chip in the USB-Flash) makes the whole USB-Flash read-only. You may check if your media is read-only trying to make new file on it (right click, then "Create new...", then something according to your taste). If it's the case, try to check and recovery the problems using special program, on Windows or in Linux (sorry, I can't help with the command, forgot it). If these problems persists, may be your media is slowly dies, sorry for that.

Second, problems with mounting the media. Maybe, for a strange reason, your media mounted in the read-only mode. I don't know why it may be. You may try to unmount and then mount the media again. If I remember correctly, the command "mount" in the terminal will show you all your mounted media with the options (is there any with "ro"?)

Touching the errors when system starts - I see them every day. It looks like SliTaz wanted to mount any of Ext* file system as Ext2. I use Ext4 on my HDD. They say Ext2 is faster. Maybe. I not compared. But Ext4 is safer due to its journaling capabilities.

# sixofeight @ Thu, 12 Oct 2017 22:46:46 UTC link

@Red

ext3/4 errors
http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/kernel-error-messages-at-boot

# Red @ Sat, 14 Oct 2017 09:56:07 UTC link

@ sixofeight

Thanks it worked

ps give my love to sevenofnine

Red

# Red @ Sat, 14 Oct 2017 09:58:59 UTC link

Hi Aleksej

I’m happy to tell you that my USB stick is in good health.

When the FAT 32 stick is mounted in the original computer running on the EXT 2 USB stick
and I use the command ,,mount,, it returns the message :

/dev/sda1 on / type ext2 (rw,relatime,user_xattr,barrier=1)
tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,relatime)
tmpfs on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,relatime)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,relatime)
devtmpfs on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,relatime,size=1032128k,nr_inodes=221246,mode=755)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,relatime)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,relatime,gid=5,mode=620)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,relatime)
tmpfs on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,relatime)
usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,relatime)
gvfsd-fuse on /home/tux/.gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=1000)
/dev/sdb1 on /media/LEXAR 30 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,uid=1000,gid=1000,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,showexec,utf8,flush,errors=remount-ro,uhelper=udisks2)
tux@slitaz:~$

sdb 1 is the FAT 32 stick, the one I use to transfer the files to an other computer
It is not read only, I can use the files no problem, but in an other computer I can not use the .ods files made in this computer.

EXT 2 is indeed faster at boot and shutdown than EXT 4, while using it I don’t notice any difference.

As sixofeight suggested I did add rootfstype=ext4 to the line in the grub menu.lst that starts with kernel.
There are two lines starting with kernel so to be on the safe site I did add it to both.
I have no idea what I’m doing there, but it works fine, no more error messages.

So all in all good fun but no solution to the problem yet. Maybe it’s one of those things I have to learn to live with ?

Red

# Aleksej @ Sat, 14 Oct 2017 11:57:21 UTC link

Hi Red,

The last time I believed in mysticism was more than a year ago, when my beloved dog left this mortal world. With computers - in a different way. Here everything can be explained rationally. Although they became too complicated in some places.

The "mount" command returns me absolutely the same options for both my mounted FAT USB-Flashes. The exception, they haven't the space in the label, like yours have: "LEXAR 30", but I don't think it is the issue.

It is not read only, I can use the files no problem

I tried to help you to solve your problem with "random" situations that you described earlier:

With jpg it’s not that simple, the problem there is not constant, about 60% of the time there is no problem, but when you’r not expecting it, you find that the jpg files you need are read only, so you can’t cut and paste.

You only need to wait that "40% of the time" when your situation is become true, and then, when files on your media became read-only you may check your media out, whether your media is locked in the read-only mode by it's controller or not.

As for office files, I think that here is the banal incompatibility of versions of your office suites that save files in different versions by default. Then, an older office suite can not work properly with files of a newer version. Most likely, the office installed on Windows is older. It saves it in an older version, with which both your offices can work.

As for files that suddenly become read-only, there is no such mechanism. Only the whole partition can become read-only (note errors=remount-ro in your listing). And this can be caused, as it turns out, not only by the internal controller, but also by the GVFS mount utility.

To check your permissions, as well as many aspects of the file, you can use next: right click on the file you interested in, then select "SliTaz development", and then "GVFS information". You may use this option on any object on your file system (files, folders, devices, mount points, etc.)

# Red @ Thu, 19 Oct 2017 22:23:01 UTC link

Hi Aleksej

You were right ( as usual ) the other libreoffice suites are nr 4
If I safe files as XLS there is no problem, I can open them everywhere.
The JPEG problem hasn't happend yet, I will post it as soon as it happens,
and I will show you the GVFS information.

Thanks so far

Red

# Red @ Tue, 31 Oct 2017 09:26:03 UTC link

Hi Aleksej

Since I’ve formatted the usb stick EXT4 the problems with JPEG seems to be over.

Maybe the files I tested with, the last time, were already damaged.

Thanks for your time and patience

Red

# Aleksej @ Tue, 31 Oct 2017 12:08:24 UTC link

Hi Red,

It is very good that the problems are over.
Enjoy your system!

# Red @ Thu, 02 Nov 2017 07:28:35 UTC link

It just go's to show

There is live after Windows

Red

xrdp erros

# geev03 @ Wed, 20 Sep 2017 15:58:05 UTC link

Thanks for adding xrdp to the packages availaable on SliTaz 5.
With sesman-Xvnc , the error is " problem connecting" and with sesman-X11rdp , the connection drops after 'connected ok ' message.
What is the correct xrdp setup for remote connection to slitaz 5 from another computer ?

[attachment=45332,2560]

Is it me, or is this the Best Linux Distro ever?

# eSavior @ Wed, 20 Sep 2017 20:45:12 UTC link

I'm surprised that I had not discovered SliTaz long ago. I can boot this thing off the web in 5 minutes, and get virtually every app I need to perform my tech support daily work within about 20 minutes: web browser, e-mail client, vpn client, remote desktop software, etc. And everything I click on is so ROCKET FAST. Wow. Makes me wonder how much of my life I have cumulatively wasted waiting for other operating systems to get back to me whenever I click my mouse button.

OK, so all the kudos behind, I do have one request. On my Dell Inspiron 3043 ( http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/product-support/product/inspiron-20-3043-aio/drivers ), I get zilch for keyboard or mouse input after Slitaz 5.0 RC3 or Slitaz 5.0 Rolling boots off the web into the desktop. So I am forced to go with Slitaz 4.0 to be able to use my desired system at work. Are we still working out the kinks with the USB drivers? I can't get any USB keyboard or mouse to work on this machine in SliTaz 5.0, BTW.

If I knew Linux stuff well enough, I'd contribute some fixes myself. I'm a developer by trade, but not an operating systems developer, just a business apps developer.

Keep up the amazing work, y'all. I wish someone would Go Fund this one, because this distro has put WAY more smiles on my face where user responsiveness is concerned, and I think every computing experience should be the way this SliTaz experience is.

# kultex @ Wed, 20 Sep 2017 22:01:32 UTC link

The problem is that your dell is to new for old rolling...

you have to wait on SliTaz next

http://cook.slitaz.org/next/

I hope, that first testing iso will come soon

# fredyfred @ Thu, 21 Sep 2017 08:08:24 UTC link

no - its not just you, eSavior.

On my old hardware Slitaz is the best linux Distro Ive found…and I tried lots!!

(I used Slitaz 5.0 of a dvd to install..and the usb 2 keyboard works…)

# alanyih @ Mon, 25 Sep 2017 02:43:20 UTC link

you have to wait on SliTaz next

I hope, that first testing iso will come soon

http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/slitaz-next-iso

# lm2 @ Tue, 26 Sep 2017 15:22:07 UTC link

or just wait the release of Slitaz 5 STABLE ? (eg not RC)

# eSavior @ Thu, 05 Oct 2017 16:32:44 UTC link

So the odd thing is that Slitaz 4.0 works great on this same piece of hardware. So I doubt it's a "hardware is too new" issue, unless there was intentionally some removal of the USB support my Inspiron 3043 uses in Slitaz 5.x. Still, it's amazing to me how much mileage I can get out of Slitaz 4.0.

One little oddity I haven't yet figured out is how to get some persistent storage available, since the local hard drive in this computer is formatted with GPT partition style, so I can't readily make a permanent install of Slitaz 4.x on this hard drive. Being the geek I am, though, I sort of enjoy boot strapping the Live USB Slitaz every time I have a power failure here in the home office (every few weeks). And I am being good about saving off useful Slitaz 4.x packages, such as FireFox 45 ESR and Remmina 0.9.3 with RDP and VNC support.

Sorry gone for so long...went on a week long vacation. Just getting back into the swing of things.

# Ceel @ Thu, 05 Oct 2017 19:00:07 UTC link

Hi eSavior

I don't know Inspiron 3043; maybe http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/usb-ports-not-working#post-42597 will help?

Do you mean the last weekly rolling by Slitaz 5.0 Rolling? Cos I knew this problem in a not so distant past: http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/usb-mount-ghost/page/5#post-42998

Good luck!

Local Web Server

# fredyfred @ Thu, 21 Sep 2017 07:43:37 UTC link

Just a suggestion to help newbies not clued up in LAN.

Could the default web page that opens after clicking Local Web Server ie http://localhost/ have the following text added (or something similar.):

To find the IP address to access the server from another LAN PC use 'TazPanel - Network Summary - IP Address' on the Slitaz PC.
Then on the other LAN PC - type those numbers in after "http://"

I know this seems obvious to most Linux users but we (me) all had to learn this at some stage.
..Now - how to find how to do a directory listing of the tux Public directory..then how to download from there..

simple cheap fix for wifi issues

# fredyfred @ Thu, 21 Sep 2017 08:00:06 UTC link

Ive an old tower PC from pre-wifi days.

A low cost raspberry Pi wifi usb adapter works on boot up with Slitaz rolling….(once wlan is set as the default Network Connection.

The shop description is:
RPI-WIFI-3 | WiFi N USB Dongle with Antenna for Raspberry Pi

(sorry - seemingly no brand name.)
This may provide a quick fix for some of those wifi issues out there.

# kultex @ Thu, 21 Sep 2017 13:24:24 UTC link

can you give more info - which chipset? where to buy?

I use normally TP-Link TL-WN722N - it uses Atheros ath9k driver and has external removable Antenna - its the cheapest good wifi adapter you can get.

The problem ist, that there exists now a Version 2.0 with realtek chipset, which is not very good and linux support is poor - the items you get through Amazon are 2.0

you still get V1.10 from this ebay vendor - he ships for free - I bought recently one......

http://www.ebay.at/itm/TP-Link-TL-WN722N-150Mbps-WiFi-Wireless-USB-Adapter-Antenna-Windows-7-8-10-BULK-/251959687428?hash=item3aa9f7b904:g:o0kAAOSwv0tVVJiT

# fredyfred @ Fri, 22 Sep 2017 05:59:28 UTC link

kultex - TazPanel informs me that it is 'Ralink 802.11 n WLAN'.

Im in new zealand and the local shop has this on their web site:
'RPI-WIFI-3 | WiFi N USB Dongle with Antenna for Raspberry Pi'
$NZ11.50

'A 802.11n compliant wireless client for your Raspberry Pi installation. Drivers are built into the Raspberry Pi software release and like most other adapters it supports WPA and WPA2 security features.

Features
• Raspberry Pi Compatible 802.11n 150Mbps USB Network Adapter
• Rotable Antenna for increased range
• A 802.11n compliant wireless client for your Raspberry Pi installation.
• Drivers are built into the Raspberry Pi software release. Just "plug n play".
• Supports WPA and WPA2 security features.
• Blue LED Indicator

Compatible With
• Raspberry Pi Model A+
• Raspberry Pi Model B
• Raspberry Pi Model B+
• Raspberry Pi 2 Model B
• Raspberry Pi 3 Model B (Note: The Pi3 has built-in WiFi)

Tested working "out of the box" with the following Raspberry Pi OS's
• OpenELEC / LibreELEC
• RaspBMC / OSMC
• Raspbian

Specifications
• Wireless Standards: IEEE 802.11n, IEEE 802.11g IEEE 802-11b
• Wireless Speeds:
11n: Up to 150Mbps
11g: Up to 54Mbs
11b: Up to 11Mbps
• Frequency Band: 2.4GHZ ISM Band
• Antenna Gain: 2dBi
• Wireless Security: WPA, WPA-PSK, WPA2, WPA2-PSK, TKIP/AES
• Interface: USB 2.0
• Storage Temperature: -20ºC -> 75ºC'

which you can see here:

https://www.wavetech.co.nz/RPI-WIFI-3/

I expect the same model would be available locally for you at Raspberry Pi suppliers.
I hope this helps..?

# kultex @ Fri, 22 Sep 2017 11:34:36 UTC link

it seams, that this device is availaible only in new zealand under this name - ralink is always good for linux - the same as atheros......

# fredyfred @ Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:54:36 UTC link

this looks like the same model in eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/802-11n-g-b-150Mbps-Mini-USB-WiFi-Wireless-Adapter-Network-Ralink-RT5370-/282100006228

# kultex @ Fri, 22 Sep 2017 14:47:00 UTC link

very nice - there are also ones with screwable antenna - so you just can change to a better Antenna

just enter Ralink RT5370 to ebay...... good to have a TL-WN7222N replacement - I just ordered on to test

# fredyfred @ Sat, 23 Sep 2017 06:53:04 UTC link

Jolly good, kultex. ..and they are cheaper on eBay than at my local supplier.

yep - an attachable antenna would make it more capable.

(On a non-slitaz side note: Read how a guy in a motorhome had a long range wireless set up ..so he could pick up free connections where he traveled in australia…using a 'TP-Link TL-WA5210G High Power Outdoor Wireless Access Point'.)

Id be interested to hear how your test goes for you - if Slitaz connects up on your setup as nicely as it does on mine.

# kultex @ Mon, 23 Oct 2017 17:08:44 UTC link

this noname thing is pretty good....

I have compared it with the TL-WN722N and the Zioncom WL0162, which is my best adapter....

see the attachment

# fredyfred @ Sat, 28 Oct 2017 23:51:54 UTC link

Those results look quite good. Ta for the update, kultex.

[End-User-Request] last minute power management for laptops

# lm2 @ Thu, 21 Sep 2017 17:24:47 UTC link

after UEFI-class3(withOUT CSM) and independant-wifi tool asked, this is my new query :

even if we have to download/install pm-utils tools (not native,so), is it possible to have a way to configure slitaz behaviour to manage the power management?

i'm using few laptops with slitaz, with battery.. and some can hold on 2hrs, others less than 20min. but the problem is, slitaz doesnt have any rescue, reaction or other behaviour or last minute action to avoid instant savage shutdown, and unfortunately lose data?

thank you 'taz team

# kultex @ Thu, 21 Sep 2017 19:37:15 UTC link

my laptop crys, when there is no mor power left - did you install cpu scaling?

http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:cpu-frequency

# lm2 @ Tue, 26 Sep 2017 15:27:32 UTC link

hello dear :)
thank for the reply,
but:
it's not about reducing the consumption
it's about making slitaz switching laptop in suspend mode or hbernate to prevent shutdown.. for example if i left my laptop for more than 1hr and the battery is less than 8%... it will obviously make the battery empty, so a reaction is needed..

# kultex @ Tue, 26 Sep 2017 21:21:39 UTC link

here you already discussed

http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/standby-mode-to-turn-off-slitaz#post-45159

one more time

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pm-utils

and here is something you can solve this...

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/84437/how-do-i-make-my-laptop-sleep-when-it-reaches-some-low-battery-threshold

upower is available in cooking

Request for hexchat

# guest_account @ Sat, 23 Sep 2017 21:14:37 UTC link

I know some packages are slowly updated, such as cacerts one (seemingly once a year?).
But at least cacerts does get updated every once in a while. Could you do the same at least for, say, hexchat?
I use it quite often and sometimes it feels uneasy to use a very old build (2.10.2, current is 2.12.4).

thanks

# Erkan_Yilmaz @ Wed, 27 Sep 2017 19:41:09 UTC link

I just tried to cook it, but it failed :-(

I guess too much changed in those 2 years, someone needs to do some MAGIC here...

2.10.2 (25-Nov-2014 18:12)
2.12.4 (10-Dec-2016 14:41)

SliTaz Next ISO

# alanyih @ Mon, 25 Sep 2017 02:40:06 UTC link

slitaz-next-170915.iso

Thanks Aleksej.

SliTaz Next ISO at the very early stage.
http://mirror1.slitaz.org/iso/next/

slitaz-next-170915.iso 2017-Sep-15 01:59:14 52.8M

# alanyih @ Mon, 25 Sep 2017 02:49:22 UTC link

ifconfig: SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device

1.
tux@slitaz:~$ uname -a
Linux slitaz 4.9.30-slitaz #2 SMP Fri Jun 16 13:58:14 Europe 2017 i686 GNU/Linux

2.
tux@slitaz:~$ grep -A 2 ifconfig /var/log/boot.log
ifconfig: SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device
Starting udhcpc client on: eth0...
udhcpc: SIOCGIFINDEX: No such device

tux@slitaz:~$ dmesg | grep eth
[ 9.913492] r8169 0000:02:00.0 eth0: RTL8168g/8111g at 0xf8337000, 44:8a:5b:9c:00:c8, XID 0c000800 IRQ 26
[ 9.913493] r8169 0000:02:00.0 eth0: jumbo features [frames: 9200 bytes, tx checksumming: ko]
[ 11.070631] r8169 0000:02:00.0 enp2s0: renamed from eth0

3.
tux@slitaz:~$ su -c 'ifconfig enp2s0 up'
Password:

tux@slitaz:~$ su -c 'udhcpc -i enp2s0'
Password:
udhcpc: started, v1.26.2
udhcpc: sending discover
udhcpc: sending select for 192.168.1.34
udhcpc: lease of 192.168.1.34 obtained, lease time 86400
deleting routers
adding dns 8.8.8.8
adding dns 192.168.1.1

4.
tux@slitaz:~$ nslookup cook.slitaz.org
Server: 8.8.8.8
Address 1: 8.8.8.8 google-public-dns-a.google.com

Name: cook.slitaz.org
Address 1: 212.233.61.5 dsl-212-233-61-5.internet.lu
tux@slitaz:~$

# Aleksej @ Mon, 25 Sep 2017 08:54:31 UTC link

Hi alanyih,

[ 11.070631] r8169 0000:02:00.0 enp2s0: renamed from eth0

Please remove /lib/udev/rules.d/80-net-name-slot.rules file. Or comment its content. Network devices will not be renamed from kernel's names to the "predictable names".

I did it already: http://hg.slitaz.org/wok-next/file/6d2b71cbba60/eudev/stuff/udev/rules.d/80-net-name-slot.rules But this change not in ISO yet.

Stay tuned!

# alanyih @ Tue, 26 Sep 2017 08:44:13 UTC link

net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0

Please remove /lib/udev/rules.d/80-net-name-slot.rules file. Or comment its content.

Or

tux@slitaz:~$ slitaz

SliTaz GNU/Linux
==================================================================================
Release : next
Architecture : i486
Kernel : 4.9.30-slitaz
Machine type : i686
Home path : /home/slitaz
Configs : /etc/slitaz
Main config : /etc/slitaz/slitaz.conf
Log files : /var/log/slitaz
Packages DB : /var/lib/tazpkg
Installed : 290 packages
Mirror : http://mirror.slitaz.org/packages/next/
System date : Thu Sep 21 02:54:44 EDT 2017
--------------
Boot options : BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/bzImage initrd=/boot/rootfs.gz rw root=/dev/null video=-32 autologin net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0 lang=en_US kmap=us tz=America/New_York
==================================================================================

tux@slitaz:~$ ifconfig eth0

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 44:8A:5B:9C:00:C8
          inet addr:192.168.1.34  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::468a:5bff:fe9c:c8/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:123 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:75 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
          RX bytes:45706 (44.6 KiB)  TX bytes:19646 (19.1 KiB)

tux@slitaz:~$

# Aleksej @ Tue, 26 Sep 2017 09:23:25 UTC link

Hi Alanyih,

Boot options : BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/bzImage initrd=/boot/rootfs.gz rw root=/dev/null video=-32 autologin net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0 lang=en_US kmap=us tz=America/New_York

I think: the lesser boot options - the better.
And the SliTaz scripts are not compatible with the names like enp2s0, enp8s0, enp0s20u1 yet.

I'm about ready to provide option net.ifnames=1 for new "predictable names", whereas absence of this option as well as net.ifnames=0 or any other values are defaults to old-style "Kernel names".

# Erkan_Yilmaz @ Wed, 27 Sep 2017 18:25:23 UTC link

What things are new in this "Next" ?

* I see a new kernel 4.9.30 (slitaz 5.0 has 3.2.71 I think)

# kultex @ Wed, 27 Sep 2017 19:51:16 UTC link

a lot will be new - you can check.....

http://hg.slitaz.org/wok-next/

# Aleksej @ Wed, 27 Sep 2017 20:01:14 UTC link

Hi Erkan,

That time, when Next started over, December 2016, it was based on LFS and BLFS.
They was updated since then, but the Next is not fully updated to the current LFS/BLFS now.

Updating is endless run...

# Erkan_Yilmaz @ Wed, 27 Sep 2017 20:12:17 UTC link

thx, Aleksej + kultex

# guest_account @ Fri, 29 Sep 2017 01:22:33 UTC link

Does this "Next" mean certainly "a next slitaz release", even if just another RC?
that would be good news!

Absolutely no intent to pressure/demand/anything like that but, by little chance, is there a remotely approximated ETA?

Wish alanyih's work on 64bit slitaz could also be integrated with these "Next" efforts, at best finally releasing an "official" 64bit version of slitaz just like the well used 32bit one that is normally used...

@Aleksej:
Just like you mentioned here
http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/planning-on-switching-to-64-bit#post-45083
think hexchat could be included?
Seemingly Erkan had difficulties:
http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/request-for-hexchat

Thanks again.

# Aleksej @ Fri, 29 Sep 2017 04:08:08 UTC link

Hi guest_account,

Does this "Next" mean certainly "a next slitaz release", even if just another RC?

Just "next" :)

It means I distance myself from the SliTaz-5.0. In fact, Pankso don't want release it for some unknown reason. Well, this is his game. And I want to move forth and examine some fresh applications.

So I started SliTaz-Next project. I hope it reaches the release. Whether it will be release 5 or release 6, for me it doesn't matter. It's just "next".

SliTaz-Next is modern distro, unlike SliTaz-Rolling and SliTaz-5.0-RC. You can expect that modern versions of popular programs will work here.

SliTaz-Next is open project, so everyone may help, if he wants to. But with some restrictions: during this long time I tinkered with it, I extended the entire building system and receipts, and I'm awaiting that persons who wants to move SliTaz-Next forth will adhere to new rules. Examples of the new receipts one can find in the Next wok.

is there a remotely approximated ETA?

You can visit SliTaz-Next building web interface. You can see there, 2953 packages from total number of 5792 are ready to use. And gauge with 38%. I went to this about 9 months. Thanks to help of Pascal and other people. You may extrapolate these percents and find it needs about 14 month to finish updating the packages :)

Anyway, that set of packages, that 2953 packages are usable today. There is only one main thing that kept me from publicly advertising the ISO: the lack of light browser. Frankly, modern full-featured web browsers like Firefox or Chrome occupy as much space as the entire SliTaz ISO. Netsurf is too young, Midori is unmaintained anymore... Any candidates? Xombrero? We'll see. It need to make web engine (webkit-gtk) first.

think hexchat could be included?

Done for the SliTaz-Next: http://cook.slitaz.org/next/hexchat
The clue is it needs "autoconf-archive" package that absent in SliTaz-Rolling and some more new dependencies (see the hexchat receipt).

I'll try to adopt hexchat receipt to the SliTaz-Rolling tomorrow, if Erkan does not beat me :)

# HGT @ Fri, 29 Sep 2017 10:28:57 UTC link

@Aleksej:
Did you consider luakit for a web browser?

# geev03 @ Fri, 29 Sep 2017 10:40:43 UTC link

"Recharging failed". Is it normal at this early stage of Slitaz-Next ?

[attachment=45398,2561]

# Aleksej @ Fri, 29 Sep 2017 10:43:58 UTC link

Hi HGT,

Luakit, as well as Midori, Tazweb and Xombrero, use webkit engine (webkit-gtk port to be precise). Need to update webkit-gtk first. All that browsers are only "shell" around the engine.

When webkit-gtk is updated, it will be possible to continue...

# Aleksej @ Fri, 29 Sep 2017 10:50:25 UTC link

Hi geev03,

"Recharging failed". Is it normal at this early stage of Slitaz-Next ?

No, it is not normal. Please try again later.
I see nothing wrong on the mirror side:

lexeii@slitaz:/$ curl -IL http://mirror.slitaz.org/packages/next/files-list.lzma
HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 08:47:54 GMT
Server: Apache/2.2.29 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.29 OpenSSL/1.0.0g PHP/5.2.17
Location: http://download.tuxfamily.org/slitaz//packages/next/files-list.lzma
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Content-Type: application/octet-stream
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 1068188
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 08:48:07 GMT
Server: lighttpd/1.4.35

If error persists, try to change mirror:

# tazpkg -sm http://mirror1.slitaz.org/packages/next/

(note "1" in mirror1)

==========================================
PS. Looks like our wget don't like "301 Moved Permanently" status.
So, solution is to change default mirror
http://mirror.slitaz.org/packages/next/
directly to
http://download.tuxfamily.org/slitaz/packages/next/
------------------------------------------
Certainly. Wget hangs on downloading:

wget http://mirror.slitaz.org/packages/next/files-list.lzma

Here BusyBox v1.26.2.
In BusyBox v1.23.2 wget works as expected. Hmm...

# geev03 @ Fri, 29 Sep 2017 12:32:10 UTC link

Thanks Aleksej , tazpkg recharge is now Ok (|If error persists, try to change mirror:

# tazpkg -sm http://mirror1.slitaz.org/packages/next/
(note "1" in mirror1)

Wonder if sshserver can start? ( my attempts to do so haven't yet succeeded )

[attachment=45401,2562]

# geev03 @ Fri, 29 Sep 2017 14:29:26 UTC link

adding sshd user allowed ssh access...
adduser sshd
/etc/init.d/sshd start

# moulefrite @ Fri, 29 Sep 2017 14:44:24 UTC link

Hi Aleksej,

First of all, thx for your maintenance of Slitaz. You should be a Key-Master since some time now.

I have some issues on your Slitaz-Next. I cannot log as root (pw : root?) also cannot read videos.

Question : if i had system freezes sometimes with Slitaz 5 its because the kernel is too old ? I have quad-core ivy-bridge (3th i5 generation)

# geev03 @ Fri, 29 Sep 2017 15:02:03 UTC link

<code >
login as: sshd
sshd@192.168.8.140's password:

Welcome to the Open Source World!

SliTaz GNU/Linux is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
but with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.

sshd@slitaz:~$ su
Password:
root@slitaz:/home/sshd# history
0 tazpkg recharge
1 tazpkg -sm http://mirror1.slitaz.org/packages/next/
2 tazpkg get-install ssh
3 adduser sshd
4 /etc/init.d/sshd start
5 history
root@slitaz:/home/sshd#

# moulefrite @ Fri, 29 Sep 2017 15:19:14 UTC link

is this an answer to me ? ^^ coz i dont undersant what u doing ahah

# guest_account @ Fri, 29 Sep 2017 20:34:30 UTC link

Another request, if possible...

Can spice-gtk or at least virt-viewer be cooked for Slitaz-next, and also for current Slitaz 5.0 if possible?

# geev03 @ Fri, 29 Sep 2017 20:42:19 UTC link

No,|is this an answer to me ?|moulefrite.
I was following up solutions to earlier problems about ifconfig , SSH etc. using a Slitaz-Next (on a Virtual Machine). Login ,either as root or tux , was not among those problems that got solved with kind help from other contributors to this thread...

# Aleksej @ Fri, 29 Sep 2017 21:58:11 UTC link

To moulefrite:

I cannot log as root (pw : root?)

Not tried it yet. Maybe. Why you need log in (we both talk about graphical session, yes?) as root? :)
When working in PCManFM you can use "Open as root" right-click menu option.
When working in terminal you have "su" command.

cannot read videos

Really there's nothing on ISO to play videos. But you can install big browser like Firefox of Palemoon to watch Youtube.

Question : if i had system freezes sometimes with Slitaz 5 its because the kernel is too old ? I have quad-core ivy-bridge (3th i5 generation)

A bunch of possibilities. Maybe you install SliTaz on cheap USB-Flash and it sometimes freezes the whole system? Don't know, I touched such problems only when I worked with USB-Flash, so I can't help here.
In other hand, ivy-bridge is relatively new, mid-2012. It may be not properly supported in Rolling. Don't know, sorry.

To geev03:

adding sshd user allowed ssh access...

Thanks, I will add it to the next ISO soon.

To guest_account:

Can spice-gtk or at least virt-viewer be cooked for Slitaz-next, and also for current Slitaz 5.0 if possible?

Possibly. But very un-soon. It needs many components absent yet both on Next and Rolling platforms. For reference, please see dependencies from the Arch Linux pkgbuilds:
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/spice-gtk3/
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/virt-viewer/

# Erkan_Yilmaz @ Sat, 30 Sep 2017 08:31:29 UTC link

I tried this nxt-ISO so far only 1x, but:

* the inet did not work, but: I could fix it with: (A)

If this inet prob would be solved I'd be inclined to use this NXT more (don't want to always fiddle with such stuff)

(A) http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/slitaz-next-iso#post-45358

# kultex @ Sat, 30 Sep 2017 09:23:57 UTC link

Generally log in as root should not be possible by default neither for grafical session nor by ssh - it's a security reason. If somebody wants it, it's the risk of the user, but as a distribution, we cannot set this by default.

And the freezes have to do with old kernel, but I think I already told you in another post, that old 3.2 kernel in not supporting well newer intel chips

There is no problem now with 4.9 in next, I already tested it on 4 different platforms

# Aleksej @ Sat, 30 Sep 2017 13:20:10 UTC link

Attention, announce.

New ISO is just uploaded to the mirror:
http://mirror1.slitaz.org/iso/next/
File name: slitaz-next-170930.iso
(It will propagate into other mirrors in near time I believe.)

I see there a good company of people that may test the ISO.
So, please, test it on your hardware and leave your feedback.

Known problems:

  1. Codename: Restricted Super-User
    • Root user can't log in using SLiM.
    • In the graphical session root user can't mount hard disk partitions.
    • The problems are with UNIX groups, Polkit permissions, DBUS sessions, ConsoleKit2 and friends. I can't solve this problem soon. Any help is appreciated.
  2. Codename: Light Web Browser
    • Light web browser used, Netsurf, is too restricted to display TazPanel properly (and play videos too).
    • It will evolve some day and will be the best independent light web browser.
    • But now, it seems we need Webkit-based browser (Midori, TazWeb, Xombrero). We haven't Webkit engine in the Next repository yet.
  3. Codename: Desktop Design
    • Some time ago I found the icon theme that I fell in love with: Paper. It provides modern icons that do not strongly contrast with the icons that we see every day in our phones. It is clear and not distracting.
    • But I found that companion to the icon theme, GTK+ theme provided by the same author, Sam Hewitt, looks a bit weird in the some places: buttons and tabs. Tabs looks like they tends "modern tendencies" but it hardly say there's a tab. Buttons in the PCManFM "address bar": it's unclear which button is "pressed" (where am I in the current moment?).
    • Current GTK+ and Openbox themes I choose are darker that I need. So I continue to search these themes. Or, will edit Paper GTK+ theme, as alternative.
    • Openbox3 theme should be configured a bit to match overall GTK+ theme in Panel and windows' menu bar.

Please, post problems you found. Thanks!

# Aleksej @ Sat, 30 Sep 2017 13:59:30 UTC link

To geev03:

Sorry. Forget to add sshd user this time.

To Erkan Yilmaz:

Old-styled networking devices eth0, wlan0, etc. should be here with this ISO.

# Erkan_Yilmaz @ Sat, 30 Sep 2017 14:33:43 UTC link

great, chedked + works!

THX

> To Erkan Yilmaz:
> Old-styled networking devices eth0, wlan0, etc. should be here with this ISO.

>> I tried this nxt-ISO so far only 1x, but:
>> * the inet did not work, but: I could fix it with: (A)
>> If this inet prob would be solved I'd be inclined to use this NXT more (don't want to always fiddle with such stuff)
>> (A) http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/slitaz-next-iso#post-45358

# Bellard @ Sat, 30 Sep 2017 15:11:30 UTC link

slitaz-next is available on web boot [ "All SliTaz versions" -> "Slitaz next ??/??/2017", see http://mirror1.slitaz.org/pxe/ipxe/slitaz.ipxe ]

You should run 'iso2exe slitaz-next-*.iso' to install it on a usbkey or a memory card.

# Aleksej @ Sat, 30 Sep 2017 15:22:01 UTC link

Thank you, Pascal!

You should run 'iso2exe slitaz-next-*.iso' to install it on a usbkey or a memory card.

Sorry, is this mean I should do it before uploading ISO to the mirror?
It got about a 1Mo bigger...

# Bellard @ Sat, 30 Sep 2017 15:33:15 UTC link

Sorry, is this mean I should do it before uploading ISO to the mirror?
It got about a 1Mo bigger...

The image is pad on the 1MB boundery ... I'm not sure it's still necessary. I will check that...

# az_ua @ Sat, 30 Sep 2017 15:51:35 UTC link

> http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/slitaz-next-iso/page/2#post-45415

New ISO is just uploaded to the mirror:
http://mirror1.slitaz.org/iso/next/
File name: slitaz-next-170930.iso

Known problems:
2. Codename: Light Web Browser

opera :

# tazpkg -gi opera
or # tazx

palemoon :
# tazpkg -gi get-palemoon && get-palemoon

# Aleksej @ Sat, 30 Sep 2017 15:56:18 UTC link

Hi Alexander,

... opera ... palemoon ...

Will it be compared (in the size) to the total stuff of our previous web browser (I mean webkit-gtk + midori + something else?).

# az_ua @ Sat, 30 Sep 2017 16:31:06 UTC link

> Will it be compared (in the size) to the total stuff of our previous web browser (I mean webkit-gtk + midori + something else?).

Sizes from slitaz-5:
-
libwebkit 1.8.3 + midori : 5.0M + 398.8K
Newer version requires big libicu. Is old tazpkg works?
-
palemoon-26 : 22.8M
-
QtWeb-elf386.zip  12.3 MB
(single binary with built-in qt4)
-
opera-12.16.1860.tazpkg : 10.1M
/usr/lib/opera/opera.lzma : 7.2M
(...trying now to build it from source now)
-
I think the best choice will be LXQt instead of gtk and any qtwebkit browser, as it was planned for Slitaz-6.0-toolchain years ago.

# az_ua @ Sat, 30 Sep 2017 16:31:06 UTC link

> Will it be compared (in the size) to the total stuff of our previous web browser (I mean webkit-gtk + midori + something else?).

Sizes from slitaz-5:
libwebkit 1.8.3 + midori : 5.0M + 398.8K Newer version requires big libicu. Is old tazpkg works?
-
palemoon-26 : 22.8M
-
QtWeb-elf386.zip  12.3 MB (single binary with built-in qt4)
-
opera-12.16.1860.tazpkg : 10.1M
/usr/lib/opera/opera.lzma : 7.2M (...trying now to build it from source now)
-
I think the best choice will be LXQt instead of gtk and any qtwebkit browser, as it was planned for Slitaz-6.0-toolchain years ago. Or maybe we can adapt tazpanel scripts/css for links or netsurf?

# moulefrite @ Sat, 30 Sep 2017 17:21:25 UTC link

Hi Aleksey!

Im writing this from your Slitaz-Next . Nice!

3 things.

* I like very much this new icon theme "Paper" , its seems to be the new trend Windows10-like many other Linux are inspired of now (like Solus). Though, I like also anything which looks like Linux-Mint//iOS . Maybe having them both could be a nice must-have even so it will take some space on the ISO ?

* I just notice that Firefox is not available for S-N (Slitaz Next). What is firefox.flavor ? I dont know to open it with S-N to see what's inside ? Could i set the repository "Extra" to get the old Firefox 38.0.5 ? Basicaly, i just use Slitaz for Firefox.

EDIT : ok, just tazpkg get-install firefox-official

* I suggest that the whole menu/Desktop of SLitaz be redesigned .. too many entries , many are not on the right level,redundacies (Wifi can be configurate on 3-4 different places) not ergonomic .. ie : "LxSession Log out" is just next to "Gparted" ... Configurating the appareance of everything just makes me want to go back on a good old Win7 (though, its not that bad) I know this is not prior and represents lot of work .. but it could be very nice to clean all that mess . I know that Slitaz is a mix of OpenBox and Lxpanel or whatever but using heavy Desktops like Mate or Gnome might not be an option if the iso shall stay small. In a few words dont let Slitaz looks like Puppy Linux , the ultimate nightmare of a design maniac like Steve Jobs lol

Cheers,

# az_ua @ Sat, 30 Sep 2017 17:42:40 UTC link

I suggest that the whole menu/Desktop of SLitaz be redesigned...

First, edit files in /usr/share/applications, then upload it here.

> Could i set the repository "Extra" to get the old Firefox 38.0.5 ?

Extra is already set. This commands allows to install old firefox-official 38.0.5 in SliTaz next if connected:
# tazpkg -gi firefox-official
or simply $ tazx (and select browser, also works for opera)

# moulefrite @ Sat, 30 Sep 2017 19:14:58 UTC link

First, edit files in /usr/share/applications, then upload it here.

If i remember well, this is to edit the entries them-selves (i.e : icon displayed, the text ..) not the hierachy of the menu (this app is in games and not in system .. ) but maybe im wrong.

Its possible to upgrade Firefox from 38 ? Because there's a pop-up inviting to upgrade firefox to 45 (not sure) but it take ages so i stop the processus.

thx

# geev03 @ Sat, 30 Sep 2017 20:58:47 UTC link

Firefox ,after an initial wget error, got installed but gives WebGL error while trying to open 360degree video.
---------------------------------------------------

root@slitaz:/home/sshd# tazpkg get-install firefox-official
Unable to find package "firefox-official" in the mirrored packages list.
Unable to find package "get-firefox-official" in the mirrored packages list.
Folder "/var/cache/tazpkg/extra/packages" does not contain packages
Connecting to http://ftp.mozilla.org (52.85.71.84:80)************| 1320 0:00:00 ETA
Connecting to http://ftp.mozilla.org (52.85.71.84:80)
- 100% |*******************************| 126k 0:00:00 ETA
Connecting to http://ftp.mozilla.org (52.85.71.84:80)
wget: server returned error: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
root@slitaz:/home/sshd# tazpkg -gi firefox-official
Unable to find package "firefox-official" in the mirrored packages list.
Unable to find package "get-firefox-official" in the mirrored packages list.
Folder "/var/cache/tazpkg/extra/packages" does not contain packages
firefox-official-38. 100% |*******************************| 40981k 0:00:00 ETA
Tracking dependencies for package "firefox-official"
================================================================================
Missing package "ossp-uuid"
================================================================================
1 missing package to install.

Unable to find package "ossp-uuid" in the mirrored packages list.
Unable to find package "get-ossp-uuid" in the mirrored packages list.
Unable to find package "ossp-uuid" in the extra packages list.

Installation of package "firefox-official"
================================================================================
Official Firefox build by the Mozilla foundation.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Copying package... [ Done ]
Extracting package... [ Done ]
Remember modified packages... [ Done ]
Installing package... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
Update system databases... [ Done ]
================================================================================
Package "firefox-official" (38.0.5) is installed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

# moulefrite @ Sun, 01 Oct 2017 07:47:49 UTC link

A video player is required for Slitaz-Next please. For all them, there is always something wrong (like a module missing).

# kultex @ Mon, 02 Oct 2017 10:30:35 UTC link

I have tested yesterday the new iso

1) I am not shure, if it is a good solution to stay on the old netnames eth0/wlan0 - to stay on the old net-names has the disadvantage, that e.g. if the firmware is not included in /lib/firmware the wlan adapter does not show up as wlan0 after you loded the firmware and reloded the driver.

SliTaz loads the wired network by default - I think it should be easy to change the the networkscript /etc/init.d/network.sh to find out the correct network name - it always starts with en - https://major.io/2015/08/21/understanding-systemds-predictable-network-device-names/

so somthing like

cd /sys/class/net
echo en*

should get the correct netname....

------------------------------------------------------------

then if you look to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_lightweight_web_browsers

Midory is unmaintained, Xombrero discontinued

So I like most Aleksanders suggestion adapt tazpanel scripts/css for netsurf

Netsurf is quite limited, but you also need with Midory 0.5.11 another browser, if you want to view more complex sites.

Aleksej, I know, that you struggling with webkit for long time, maybe this is the easier solution and maybe its also easier to help you......

--------------------------------------------

there are some other issues, but I have to verify first and I am working on a version with udevil and spaceFm - it is maintained now and we can avoid this whole consolekit, policykit, dbus, udisks, gvfs & fuse madness.......
but I have very limited time at the moment

# alanyih @ Tue, 03 Oct 2017 10:34:20 UTC link


tazpkg get-install and recharge

Last database is ready to use.
md5sum: can't open 'mesa-12.0.6.tazpkg': No such file or directory
md5sum: can't open 'nss-3.29.tazpkg': No such file or directory
md5sum: can't open 'at-spi2-atk-2.22.0.tazpkg': No such file or directory
md5sum: can't open 'colord-1.2.12.tazpkg': No such file or directory
md5sum: can't open 'libepoxy-1.4.0.tazpkg': No such file or directory

1. tazpkg recharge
root@slitaz:/home/tux# tazpkg recharge
Creating folder "/var/cache/tazpkg"... [ Done ]

Recharging repository "Main"
================================================================================
Checking... [ Done ]
Database timestamp: 09/29/2017 19:52
Creating backup of the last packages list... [ Done ]

Getting "bundle.tar.lzma"... [ Failed ]

Restoring database files... [ Done ]
================================================================================
Recharging failed

root@slitaz:/home/tux# tazpkg recharge

Recharging repository "Main"
================================================================================

Checking... [ Failed ]

Creating backup of the last packages list... [ Done ]
Getting "bundle.tar.lzma"... [ Done ]
Getting "files-list.lzma"... [ Done ]
=======================================================================================
Last database is ready to use.

Note that next time you recharge the list, a list of differences will be displayed to
show new and upgradeable packages.

root@slitaz:/home/tux# tazpkg recharge

Recharging repository "Main"
=======================================================================================
Checking... [ Done ]
Database timestamp: 09/29/2017 19:52
Creating backup of the last packages list... [ Done ]
Getting "bundle.tar.lzma"... [ Done ]
=======================================================================================
Last database is ready to use.

2. tazpkg install vivaldi-stable
root@slitaz:/home/tux# tazpkg -i /media/data-ln/next/vivaldi-stable-1.12.955.38-1.tazpkg

Tracking dependencies for package "vivaldi-stable"
=======================================================================================
Missing package "bash"
Missing package "mesa"
Missing package "nss"
Missing package "GConf"
Missing package "gtk+3"
=======================================================================================
5 missing packages to install.

bash-4.4.12.tazpkg 100% |*******************************| 296k 0:00:00 ETA
Installation of package "bash"

[attachment=45448,2564]

3. can't open 'mesa-12.0.6.tazpkg' and 'nss-3.29.tazpkg'
Package "bash" (4.4.12) is installed.

md5sum: can't open 'mesa-12.0.6.tazpkg': No such file or directory
Checksum error for "mesa-12.0.6.tazpkg"
rm: can't remove 'mesa-12.0.6.tazpkg': No such file or directory

Recharging repository "Main"
=======================================================================================
Checking... [ Failed ]
Creating backup of the last packages list... [ Done ]
Getting "bundle.tar.lzma"... [ Done ]
=======================================================================================
Last database is ready to use.

mesa-12.0.6.tazpkg 100% |*******************************| 2317k 0:00:00 ETA
Tracking dependencies for package "mesa"
=======================================================================================
Missing package "xorg-libXxf86vm"
=======================================================================================
1 missing package to install.

xorg-libXxf86vm-1.1. 100% |*******************************| 7396 0:00:00 ETA
Installation of package "xorg-libXxf86vm"
=======================================================================================
XFree86-VidMode extension library
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Copying package... [ Done ]
Extracting package... [ Done ]
Remember modified packages... [ Done ]
Installing package... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
=======================================================================================
Package "xorg-libXxf86vm" (1.1.4) is installed.

Installation of package "mesa"
=======================================================================================
3D Graphics Library that is an open-source implementaton of OpenGL.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Copying package... [ Done ]
Extracting package... [ Done ]
Remember modified packages... [ Done ]
Saving configuration files... [ Done ]
Installing package... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
=======================================================================================
Package "mesa" (12.0.6) is installed.

md5sum: can't open 'nss-3.29.tazpkg': No such file or directory
Checksum error for "nss-3.29.tazpkg"
rm: can't remove 'nss-3.29.tazpkg': No such file or directory

Recharging repository "Main"
=======================================================================================
Checking... [ Done ]
Database timestamp: 09/29/2017 19:52
Creating backup of the last packages list... [ Done ]
Getting "bundle.tar.lzma"... [ Failed ]
Restoring database files... [ Done ]
=======================================================================================
Recharging failed

[attachment=45448,2565]

4. can't open 'at-spi2-atk-2.22.0.tazpkg' and 'colord-1.2.12.tazpkg'
Tracking dependencies for package "gtk+3"
=======================================================================================
Missing package "at-spi2-atk"
Missing package "at-spi2-core"
Missing package "colord"
Missing package "libepoxy"
=======================================================================================
4 missing packages to install.

md5sum: can't open 'at-spi2-atk-2.22.0.tazpkg': No such file or directory
Checksum error for "at-spi2-atk-2.22.0.tazpkg"
rm: can't remove 'at-spi2-atk-2.22.0.tazpkg': No such file or directory

Recharging repository "Main"
=======================================================================================
Checking... [ Done ]
Database timestamp: 09/29/2017 19:52
Creating backup of the last packages list... [ Done ]
Getting "bundle.tar.lzma"... [ Failed ]
Restoring database files... [ Done ]
=======================================================================================
Recharging failed

at-spi2-atk-2.22.0.t 100% |*******************************| 53080 0:00:00 ETA
Tracking dependencies for package "at-spi2-atk"
=======================================================================================
Missing package "at-spi2-core"
=======================================================================================
1 missing package to install.

at-spi2-core-2.22.0. 100% |*******************************| 90880 0:00:00 ETA
Installation of package "at-spi2-core"
=======================================================================================
Service Provider Interface for the Assistive Technologies
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Copying package... [ Done ]
Extracting package... [ Done ]
Remember modified packages... [ Done ]
Installing package... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
=======================================================================================
Package "at-spi2-core" (2.22.0) is installed.

Installation of package "at-spi2-atk"
=======================================================================================
Bridges ATK to At-Spi2 D-Bus service
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Copying package... [ Done ]
Extracting package... [ Done ]
Remember modified packages... [ Done ]
Installing package... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
=======================================================================================
Package "at-spi2-atk" (2.22.0) is installed.

md5sum: can't open 'colord-1.2.12.tazpkg': No such file or directory
Checksum error for "colord-1.2.12.tazpkg"
rm: can't remove 'colord-1.2.12.tazpkg': No such file or directory

Recharging repository "Main"
=======================================================================================
Checking... [ Failed ]
Creating backup of the last packages list... [ Done ]
Getting "bundle.tar.lzma"... [ Done ]
=======================================================================================
Last database is ready to use.

[attachment=45448,2566]

5. can't open 'libepoxy-1.4.0.tazpkg'
Package "colord" (1.2.12) is installed.

md5sum: can't open 'libepoxy-1.4.0.tazpkg': No such file or directory
Checksum error for "libepoxy-1.4.0.tazpkg"
rm: can't remove 'libepoxy-1.4.0.tazpkg': No such file or directory

Recharging repository "Main"
=======================================================================================
Checking... [ Done ]
Database timestamp: 09/29/2017 19:52
Creating backup of the last packages list... [ Done ]
Getting "bundle.tar.lzma"... [ Done ]
=======================================================================================
Last database is ready to use.

libepoxy-1.4.0.tazpk 100% |*******************************| 153k 0:00:00 ETA
Installation of package "libepoxy"
=======================================================================================
Library for handling OpenGL function pointer management
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Copying package... [ Done ]
Extracting package... [ Done ]
Remember modified packages... [ Done ]
Installing package... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
=======================================================================================
Package "libepoxy" (1.4.0) is installed.

Installation of package "gtk+3"
=======================================================================================
The GIMP Toolkit 3.x
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Copying package... [ Done ]
Extracting package... [ Done ]
Remember modified packages... [ Done ]
Saving configuration files... [ Done ]
Installing package... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
Execute post-install commands... [ Done ]
Update system databases... [ Done ]
=======================================================================================
Package "gtk+3" (3.22.8) is installed.

Installation of package "vivaldi-stable"
=======================================================================================
A new browser for our friends
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Copying package... [ Done ]
Extracting package... [ Done ]
Remember modified packages... [ Done ]
Installing package... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
Update system databases... [ Done ]
=======================================================================================
Package "vivaldi-stable" (1.12.955.38-1) is installed.

root@slitaz:/home/tux#

[attachment=45448,2567]

20171003-tazpkg-install-vivaldi-stable.log
http://paste.slitaz.org/?5a81b64975100b96#KXl07Zfc3qEwUxXi4Zqp+mWEh77frIPIDIzx0IUdFHc=

# Aleksej @ Tue, 03 Oct 2017 12:27:47 UTC link

Hi alanyih,

And what all these errors mean? I can't get it.

Is it something wrong with our mirror? Or is it something wrong with tazpkg? Or with its settings and folders?

# moulefrite @ Tue, 03 Oct 2017 12:42:32 UTC link

Yes, tazpkg acts strange sometimes in S-N but do the job. I confirm. But is it just a new tazpkg system ?

root@slitaz:/home/tux# tazpkg recharge

Recharging repository "Main"
================================================================================
Checking... [ Failed ]
Creating backup of the last packages list... [ Done ]
Getting "bundle.tar.lzma"... [ Failed ]
Restoring database files... [ Done ]
================================================================================
Recharging failed

root@slitaz:/home/tux# tazpkg set-release next

Recharging repository "Main"
================================================================================
Checking... [ Done ]
Database timestamp: 09/29/17 23:52
Creating backup of the last packages list... [ Done ]
Getting "bundle.tar.lzma"... [ Done ]
================================================================================
Last database is ready to use.

Recharging repository "Main"
================================================================================
Checking... [ Done ]
Database timestamp: 09/29/17 23:52
================================================================================
Repository "Main" is up to date.

Package Repository Version Status
================================================================================
consolekit2 Main 1.0.2 New build
fontconfig Main 2.12.1 New build
glib Main 2.50.3 New build
libssh2 Main 1.8.0 New build
openssl Main 1.0.2l New build
slitaz-next Main 170930 ��� 170927
xorg-libSM Main 1.2.2 New build
xorg-libX11 Main 1.6.3 New build
xorg-libXau Main 1.0.8 New build
xorg-libXdmcp Main 1.1.2 New build
xorg-libXfont2 Main 2.0.1 New build
xorg-libXmu Main 1.1.2 New build
xorg-libXvMC Main 1.0.9 New build
xorg-libxcb Main 1.12 New build
xorg-libxkbfile Main 1.0.9 New build
xorg-xf86-input-evdev Main 2.10.3 New build
xorg-xf86-input-mouse Main 1.9.2 New build
xorg-xf86-input-synaptics Main 1.9.0 New build
xorg-xf86-video-fbdev Main 0.4.4 New build
xorg-xf86-video-vesa Main 2.3.4 New build
xorg-xkeyboard-config Main 2.21 New build
xorg-xrandr Main 1.5.0 New build
xorg-xset Main 1.2.3 New build
================================================================================
You have 23 available upgrades (0 blocked)

324 installed packages scanned in 0s
Do you wish to install them now? (y/N) N
Leaving without any upgrades installed.

glib-2.50.3.tazpkg 100% |*******************************| 941k 0:00:00 ETA
"glib" package is already installed.
You can use the --forced option to force installation.

md5sum: can't open 'libpng16-1.6.28.tazpkg': No such file or directory
Checksum error for "libpng16-1.6.28.tazpkg"
rm: can't remove 'libpng16-1.6.28.tazpkg': No such file or directory

Recharging repository "Main"
================================================================================
Checking... [ Done ]
Database timestamp: 09/29/17 23:52
================================================================================
Repository "Main" is up to date.

md5sum: can't open 'libpng16-1.6.28.tazpkg': No such file or directory
Checksum error for "libpng16-1.6.28.tazpkg"
rm: can't remove 'libpng16-1.6.28.tazpkg': No such file or directory
Please wait until the mirror synchronization is complete and try again.
md5sum: can't open 'xorg-libxcb-1.12.tazpkg': No such file or directory
Checksum error for "xorg-libxcb-1.12.tazpkg"
rm: can't remove 'xorg-libxcb-1.12.tazpkg': No such file or directory

Recharging repository "Main"
================================================================================
Checking... [ Done ]
Database timestamp: 09/29/17 23:52
================================================================================
Repository "Main" is up to date.

xorg-libxcb-1.12.taz 100% |*******************************| 147k 0:00:00 ETA
"xorg-libxcb" package is already installed.
You can use the --forced option to force installation.

Unable to find package "ossp-uuid" in the mirrored packages list.
Unable to find package "get-ossp-uuid" in the mirrored packages list.
Unable to find package "ossp-uuid" in the extra packages list.
xorg-pixman-0.34.0.t 100% |*******************************| 166k 0:00:00 ETA
"xorg-pixman" package is already installed.
You can use the --forced option to force installation.

xorg-xcb-util-0.4.0. 100% |*******************************| 7120 0:00:00 ETA
"xorg-xcb-util" package is already installed.
You can use the --forced option to force installation.

md5sum: can't open 'yad-gtk2-0.39.0.tazpkg': No such file or directory
Checksum error for "yad-gtk2-0.39.0.tazpkg"
rm: can't remove 'yad-gtk2-0.39.0.tazpkg': No such file or directory

Recharging repository "Main"
================================================================================
Checking... [ Failed ]
Creating backup of the last packages list... [ Done ]
Getting "bundle.tar.lzma"... [ Done ]
================================================================================
Last database is ready to use.

yad-gtk2-0.39.0.tazp 100% |*******************************| 68596 0:00:00 ETA
"yad-gtk2" package is already installed.
You can use the --forced option to force installation.

root@slitaz:/home/tux#

# Aleksej @ Tue, 03 Oct 2017 13:40:23 UTC link

Hi there,

I'm writing now from SliTaz-Next ISO using stable Vivaldi browser.

It turns there's some problems with the mirror settings.
So I can't recommend to use the default mirror http://mirror.slitaz.org/

tux@slitaz:/var$ wget -S --spider -T30 http://mirror.slitaz.org/packages/next/IDs
Connecting to mirror.slitaz.org (212.83.135.187:80)
  HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
  Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2017 11:28:57 GMT
  Server: Apache/2.2.29 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.29 OpenSSL/1.0.0g PHP/5.2.17
  Location: http://download.tuxfamily.org/slitaz//packages/next/IDs
Connecting to download.tuxfamily.org (88.191.250.18:80)
  HTTP/1.1 200 OK
  Content-Type: application/octet-stream
  Accept-Ranges: bytes
  Content-Length: 44
  Connection: close
  Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2017 11:29:13 GMT
  Server: lighttpd/1.4.35

tux@slitaz:/var$ wget -S --spider -T30 http://mirror.slitaz.org/packages/next/IDs
Connecting to mirror.slitaz.org (188.165.229.172:80)
  HTTP/1.1 200 OK
  Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2017 11:29:24 GMT
  Server: lighttpd (SliTaz GNU/Linux)
  Content-Type: application/octet-stream
  Accept-Ranges: bytes
  Content-Length: 44
  Vary: Accept-Encoding,User-Agent
  Connection: close

tux@slitaz:/var$ wget -S --spider -T30 http://mirror.slitaz.org/packages/next/IDs
Connecting to mirror.slitaz.org (37.187.4.13:80)
wget: download timed out

In order to fix such strange behaviour, please switch to the mirror1:

# tazpkg -sm http://mirror1.slitaz.org/packages/next/

or add the line to your /etc/hosts file:

212.83.135.187 mirror.slitaz.org

-----
http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/37.187.4.13
[attachment=45453,2569]

# Ceel @ Wed, 04 Oct 2017 22:38:52 UTC link

Hi Aleksej,

I come tardily to your Next ISO but I'm here :)

First thank you very much for your great work!
And thank you to do SliTaz survives.

I've installed SliTaz Next on my old acer Travelmate (P4, 1.66GHz, 256MB RAM)
It runs... but with some slowness of course; not enough memory :-/
It runs faster on a P4, 1.5GHz, 512MB in frugal mode (I think 512MB is the minimum required).

I meat these two problems:

  1. After installation, if I click on the [Recharge list] button in the TazPkg's notification "No packages list found", Netsurf won't work anymore.
  2. I always use http://mirror1.slitaz.org/packages/next/. As a new version of the slitaz-next package overwrites /var/lib/tazpkg/mirror, I block this package.
    When I update the installation with tazpkg up, if slitaz-next is in the list of the packages to update after update if I type tazpkg up again, TazPkg finds again the same packages to update and yet /var/lib/tazpkg/packages.up was empty before I type the command the second time.
    Then I unblock slitaz-next and force its update -> packages.up is cleared and a tazpkg up, doesn't find any packages to update. This is reproductible.
    see attached file

I noticed during boot (I use your 170930 ISO) the message Searching for early boot option...failed. I guess there is no importance but can you explain to me what is this "early boot option"?

# Ceel @ Wed, 04 Oct 2017 22:42:46 UTC link

Don't know why the file is denied so I post the contain:


tux@slitaz:~$ su
Password: 

root@slitaz:/home/tux# tazpkg -b slitaz-next

Recharging repository "Main"
================================================================================
Checking...                                                          [ Done ]
Database timestamp: 09/30/17 01:52
Creating backup of the last packages list...                         [ Done ]
Getting "bundle.tar.lzma"...                                         [ Done ]
Getting "files-list.lzma"...                                         [ Done ]
================================================================================
Last database is ready to use.

Note that next time you recharge the list, a list of differences will be
displayed to show new and upgradeable packages.

Package "slitaz-next" blocked.

root@slitaz:/home/tux# tazpkg up

Recharging repository "Main"
================================================================================
Checking...                                                          [ Done ]
Database timestamp: 09/30/17 01:52
================================================================================
Repository "Main" is up to date.

Package                  Repository  Version    Status
================================================================================
consolekit2              Main        1.0.2      New build
fontconfig               Main        2.12.1     New build
glib                     Main        2.50.3     New build
libssh2                  Main        1.8.0      New build
openssl                  Main        1.0.2l     New build
slitaz-next              Main        170930     ��� 170927 (Blocked)
xorg-libSM               Main        1.2.2      New build
xorg-libX11              Main        1.6.3      New build
xorg-libXau              Main        1.0.8      New build
xorg-libXdmcp            Main        1.1.2      New build
xorg-libXfont2           Main        2.0.1      New build
xorg-libXmu              Main        1.1.2      New build
xorg-libXvMC             Main        1.0.9      New build
xorg-libxcb              Main        1.12       New build
xorg-libxkbfile          Main        1.0.9      New build
xorg-xf86-input-evdev    Main        2.10.3     New build
xorg-xf86-input-mouse    Main        1.9.2      New build
xorg-xf86-input-synaptics Main        1.9.0      New build
xorg-xf86-video-fbdev    Main        0.4.4      New build
xorg-xf86-video-vesa     Main        2.3.4      New build
xorg-xkeyboard-config    Main        2.21       New build
xorg-xrandr              Main        1.5.0      New build
xorg-xset                Main        1.2.3      New build
================================================================================
You have 22 available upgrades (1 blocked)

322 installed packages scanned in 2s
Do you wish to install them now? (y/N) y
consolekit2-1.0.2.ta 100% |*******************************|   108k  0:00:00 ETA
[...]
Package "xorg-xset" (1.2.3) is installed.

root@slitaz:/home/tux# tazpkg -u slitaz-next
Package "slitaz-next" unblocked.

root@slitaz:/home/tux# tazpkg up

Recharging repository "Main"
================================================================================
Checking...                                                          [ Done ]
Database timestamp: 09/30/17 01:52
================================================================================
Repository "Main" is up to date.

Package                  Repository  Version    Status
================================================================================
consolekit2              Main        1.0.2      New build
fontconfig               Main        2.12.1     New build
glib                     Main        2.50.3     New build
libssh2                  Main        1.8.0      New build
openssl                  Main        1.0.2l     New build
slitaz-next              Main        170930     ��� 170927
xorg-libSM               Main        1.2.2      New build
xorg-libX11              Main        1.6.3      New build
xorg-libXau              Main        1.0.8      New build
xorg-libXdmcp            Main        1.1.2      New build
xorg-libXfont2           Main        2.0.1      New build
xorg-libXmu              Main        1.1.2      New build
xorg-libXvMC             Main        1.0.9      New build
xorg-libxcb              Main        1.12       New build
xorg-libxkbfile          Main        1.0.9      New build
xorg-xf86-input-evdev    Main        2.10.3     New build
xorg-xf86-input-mouse    Main        1.9.2      New build
xorg-xf86-input-synaptics Main        1.9.0      New build
xorg-xf86-video-fbdev    Main        0.4.4      New build
xorg-xf86-video-vesa     Main        2.3.4      New build
xorg-xkeyboard-config    Main        2.21       New build
xorg-xrandr              Main        1.5.0      New build
xorg-xset                Main        1.2.3      New build
================================================================================
You have 23 available upgrades (0 blocked)

322 installed packages scanned in 2s
Do you wish to install them now? (y/N) Leaving without any upgrades installed.

root@slitaz:/home/tux# tazpkg -gi slitaz-next --forced
slitaz-next-170927.t 100% |*******************************|    98k  0:00:00 ETA
[...]
Package "slitaz-next" (170927) is installed.

root@slitaz:/home/tux# tazpkg -b slitaz-next

Recharging repository "Main"
================================================================================
Checking...                                                          [ Done ]
Database timestamp: 09/30/17 01:52
================================================================================
Repository "Main" is up to date.

Package "slitaz-next" blocked.

root@slitaz:/home/tux# tazpkg up

Recharging repository "Main"
================================================================================
Checking...                                                          [ Done ]
Database timestamp: 09/30/17 01:52
================================================================================
Repository "Main" is up to date.

Recharging repository "Main"
================================================================================
Checking...                                                          [ Done ]
Database timestamp: 09/30/17 01:52
================================================================================
Repository "Main" is up to date.

Package                  Repository  Version    Status
================================================================================
System is up-to-date...
322 installed packages scanned in 6s

root@slitaz:/home/tux#

# Aleksej @ Wed, 04 Oct 2017 23:46:44 UTC link

Hi Ceel,

I come tardily to your Next ISO but I'm here :)

You didn't lost this train :) Welcome aboard.
It may sound strange, but I not announced SliTaz Next ISO in any way. Mainly because of its highly experimental nature. I planned to make something I might show people and then make announcement. But you know how this topic was started :) Well, let it be. I aware about early stage anyway.

Let's proceed to your questions.

Status after the "Searching for early boot options..." does not mean nothing. Really, now it mean that kernel cmdline not contain "screen=..." option, so it show "[ Failed ]". Thank you, Sharp Eye! :) I will fix status back to "[ Done ]".

And about "slitaz-next" package. I'm very very sorry for all these troubles. I never guessed this package will be updated. For me this package is only handy way to change some values in the configuration files, to add some files to the system, and to remove other files that I don't want to see in ISO. I will remove this package in the next ISO release, moving all "hot fixes" to the appropriate packages.

And about memory usage. Sorry again. I not intended this ISO for such low-memory computers. The ISO will grow and grow. I think it's better to install SliTaz to the HDD partition rather use your RAM as RAM-disk in the Live session. It will use significantly lower memory.

I know, "loram" versions of ISO existed before, but I'm a way far from it, and don't know how this machinery work.

# geev03 @ Thu, 05 Oct 2017 09:05:34 UTC link

>I think it's better to install SliTaz to the HDD partition.
So far, no success with installation attempts to a Virtual Disk . Unlike in earlier SliTaz (4 ,5)it goes in cycles as in the attached picture.
[attachment=45475,2573]

# HGT @ Thu, 05 Oct 2017 10:42:35 UTC link

@geev03

SliTaz next can be installed in a disk partition using the command
slitaz-installer

# alanyih @ Thu, 05 Oct 2017 11:44:59 UTC link

vivaldi and flash-player-ppapi

Package "vivaldi-stable" (1.12.955.38-1) is installed.

Pepper Flash Player
https://fpdownload.adobe.com/pub/flashplayer/pdc/27.0.0.130/flash_player_ppapi_linux.i386.tar.gz

tux@slitaz:~$ ls -l /opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/
total 14996
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 15351596 Aug 29 17:11 libpepflashplayer.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2223 Aug 29 17:11 manifest.json

tux@slitaz:~$ head /opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/manifest.json
{
"description": "Pepper Flash Player",
"name": "Flapper",
"version": "27.0.0.130",
"x-flapper-revision": "81365",
"x-ppapi-arch": "ia32",
"x-ppapi-os": "linux",
"x-ppapi-required-interfaces": [
"PPB_AudioConfig;1.1|PPB_AudioConfig;1.0",
"PPB_AudioInput(Dev);0.4|PPB_AudioInput(Dev);0.3",

tux@slitaz:~$ file /opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so
/opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, BuildID[sha1]=0d77aad2b55c1a8114d0ac75c8cbab204f5dd29b, stripped

tux@slitaz:~$ ldd /opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so
/opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so:
linux-gate.so.1 (0xb7737000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb679e000)
librt.so.1 => /lib/librt.so.1 (0xb6795000)
libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0xb6666000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0xb6609000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xb65f0000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0xb65d2000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb6449000)
/lib/ld-2.25.so (0x80041000)

tux@slitaz:~$

----


vivaldi://about

Vivaldi	1.12.955.38 (Stable channel) (32-bit)
Revision	7f53b6a63fad112d5d35848a1a0c6fe5cb4a9cbd-
OS	Linux
JavaScript	V8 6.1.534.41
Flash	999.999.999.999 /opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so
User Agent	Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/61.0.3163.102 Safari/537.36 Vivaldi/1.93.955.38
Command Line	/usr/bin/vivaldi-stable --always-authorize-plugins --enable-blink-features=ResizeObserver --flag-switches-begin --flag-switches-end
Executable Path	/opt/vivaldi/vivaldi
Profile Path	/home/tux/.config/vivaldi/Default

[attachment=45477,2575]

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Flash Player Help
https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html

Install Flash Player in five easy steps
1. Check if Flash Player is installed on your computer

Check Now

YOUR SYSTEM INFORMATION
Your Flash Version         27.0.0.130
Your browser name          Vivaldi
Your Operating System (OS) Linux

[..]

5. Verify whether Flash Player is installed

If you see clouds moving in the animation below, you have successfully installed Flash Player. Congratulations!

If you don't see the animation after completing all the steps, refresh this page using the icon below.

[attachment=45477,2574]

# Aleksej @ Thu, 05 Oct 2017 15:24:04 UTC link

To Ceel:

'Searching for early boot options...' fixed in slitaz-boot-scripts-444.

To geev03:

SliTaz installer was never tested to run under NetSurf.
I managed to fix it, and almost all buttons works. Please, update tazinst and tazinst-gui both to the version 91.

The only buttons "Browse" (or something similar) not works, because NetSurf not supported AJAX. You should enter all the paths manually in the input boxes.

# Ceel @ Tue, 10 Oct 2017 18:56:15 UTC link

Hi Aleksej,

Sharp Eye!

No, slow computer! :-O haha!

I not intended this ISO for such low-memory computers.

Don't worry, it was just a test.

Concerning tazpkg up, wrong path.
After the command, md5 in installed.md5 are not updated for new builds (but OK for new versions).
That's why TazPkg finds the same packages to update when typing successively twice the command.

# Aleksej @ Tue, 10 Oct 2017 22:23:20 UTC link

Hi Ceel,

After the command, md5 in installed.md5 are not updated for new builds (but OK for new versions).

The issue. I'll see it closer tomorrow.

# guest_account @ Wed, 11 Oct 2017 18:01:05 UTC link

@Aleksej:

I already learned slitaz-next does not support the default mirror.slitaz.org URL, giving an error. In fact, it's neither well supported on Slitaz 5.0, so what I always do when live booting 5.0 is running as root:
sed -ri 's/.{13}/&1/' /var/lib/tazpkg/mirror
To change default mirror to mirror1.slitaz.org, then it can recharge.
However how can one trust this mirror, which should be *better* either for 5.0 and Next, if it's down with error 503 "due to overload" several times a month? It's down periods have been still relatively down and maybe that's why nobody has noticed, but it does happen often!

Also, issue apart, any success in building hexchat 2.12 for 5.0?

Thanks again.

# alanyih @ Thu, 12 Oct 2017 17:34:32 UTC link

firefox and flash-player-npapi


vivaldi and flash-player-ppapi

Pepper Flash Player

flash-player-npapi

Package "flash-player-npapi" (27.0.0.130) is installed.

root@slitaz:~# ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 Oct 6 19:42 libflashplayer.so -> /usr/share/flash/libflashplayer.so

root@slitaz:~# ls -l /usr/share/flash/libflashplayer.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14990320 Aug 29 15:47 /usr/share/flash/libflashplayer.so

root@slitaz:~# file /usr/share/flash/libflashplayer.so
/usr/share/flash/libflashplayer.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, BuildID[sha1]=0972260c5f9630651ca4d56bbb6dc4f21a69380a, stripped

root@slitaz:~# ldd /usr/share/flash/libflashplayer.so

/usr/share/flash/libflashplayer.so:
realpath: /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: No such file or directory

root@slitaz:~# cat /usr/bin/ldd

#!/bin/sh
#
# Tiny ldd fake.
# Copyright (C) 2010-2017 SliTaz GNU/Linux.
#
echo
file="$@"
for file do
    file="$(which "$file")"
    [ ! -f "$file" ] && exit
    ld="$(sed '//lib.*/ld/!dq' "$file")"
    LD_TRACE_LOADED_OBJECTS=1 "$(realpath ${ld:-/lib/ld-linux*})" "$file" 2>/dev/null
     echo "$file" | sed 's%^./%%;s%$%:%'
   echo
done
root@slitaz:~#

[attachment=45526,2577]

----


About Mozilla Firefox

56.0 (32-bit) What’s new
Firefox is up to date

about:plugins

Installed plugins

Find updates for installed plugins at mozilla.com/plugincheck

OpenH264 Video Codec provided by Cisco Systems, Inc.

    File: 1.6
    Path: /home/tux/.mozilla/firefox/8b4w4970.default/gmp-gmpopenh264/1.6
    Version: 1.6
    State: Enabled
    This plugin is automatically installed by Mozilla to comply with the WebRTC specification and to enable WebRTC calls with devices that require the H.264 video codec. Visit http://www.openh264.org/ to view the codec source code and learn more about the implementation.

MIME Type	Description	Suffixes

Shockwave Flash

    File: libflashplayer.so
    Path: /usr/share/flash/libflashplayer.so
    Version: 27.0.0.130
    State: Enabled
    Shockwave Flash 27.0 r0

MIME Type	Description	Suffixes
application/x-shockwave-flash	Shockwave Flash	swf
application/futuresplash	FutureSplash Player	spl

[attachment=45526,2578]

# alanyih @ Wed, 18 Oct 2017 04:15:28 UTC link

ldd VS. ldd (GNU libc) 2.25

/usr/share/flash/libflashplayer.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386

root@slitaz:~# ldd /usr/share/flash/libflashplayer.so
/usr/share/flash/libflashplayer.so:
realpath: /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: No such file or directory

slitaz-base-files view rootfs/usr/bin/ldd @ rev 333
http://hg.slitaz.org/slitaz-base-files/file/9e80adfca421/rootfs/usr/bin/ldd

line source
1 #!/bin/sh
2 #
3 # Tiny ldd fake.
4 # Copyright (C) 2010-2017 SliTaz GNU/Linux.
5 #
6 echo
7 file="$@"
8 for file do
9     file="$(which "$file")"
10     [ ! -f "$file" ] && exit
11     ld="$(sed '//lib.*/ld/!dq' "$file")"
12     echo "$file" | sed 's%^./%%;s%$%:%'
13     LD_TRACE_LOADED_OBJECTS=1 "$(realpath ${ld:-/lib/ld-linux*})" "$file" 2>/dev/null
14     echo
15 done

root@slitaz:~# ldd --version
ldd (GNU libc) 2.25
Copyright (C) 2017 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
Written by Roland McGrath and Ulrich Drepper.

root@slitaz:~# head /usr/bin/ldd
#! /bin/bash
# Copyright (C) 1996-2017 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
# This file is part of the GNU C Library.

# The GNU C Library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
# modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public
# License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either
# version 2.1 of the License, or (at your option) any later version.

# The GNU C Library is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,

root@slitaz:~# ldd /usr/share/flash/libflashplayer.so
linux-gate.so.1 (0xb77b5000)
libGL.so.1 => /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 (0xb67f2000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb67ed000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0xb67cf000)
librt.so.1 => /lib/librt.so.1 (0xb67c6000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0xb669e000)
libXt.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXt.so.6 (0xb6646000)
libnss3.so => /usr/lib/libnss3.so (0xb64f7000)
libsmime3.so => /usr/lib/libsmime3.so (0xb64cb000)
libssl3.so => /usr/lib/libssl3.so (0xb6476000)
libnspr4.so => /usr/lib/libnspr4.so (0xb6433000)
libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0xb60bc000)
libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0xb602c000)
libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 (0xb6009000)
libpango-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0 (0xb5fc2000)
libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0xb5f82000)
libgobject-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 (0xb5f3b000)
libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0xb5e37000)
libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0xb5d9a000)
libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0xb5c6b000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0xb5c0e000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xb5bf5000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb5a6a000)
libexpat.so.1 => /usr/lib/libexpat.so.1 (0xb5a4a000)
libxcb-dri3.so.0 => /usr/lib/libxcb-dri3.so.0 (0xb5a46000)
libxcb-present.so.0 => /usr/lib/libxcb-present.so.0 (0xb5a42000)
libxcb-sync.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb-sync.so.1 (0xb5a3b000)
libxshmfence.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxshmfence.so.1 (0xb5a38000)
libglapi.so.0 => /usr/lib/libglapi.so.0 (0xb5a1c000)
libXdamage.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXdamage.so.1 (0xb5a18000)
libXfixes.so.3 => /usr/lib/libXfixes.so.3 (0xb5a11000)
libX11-xcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libX11-xcb.so.1 (0xb5a0e000)
libxcb-glx.so.0 => /usr/lib/libxcb-glx.so.0 (0xb59f4000)
libxcb-dri2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libxcb-dri2.so.0 (0xb59ec000)
libXxf86vm.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1 (0xb59e6000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0xb59d4000)
libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0xb59ad000)
libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0xb59a9000)
libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0xb59a2000)
libdrm.so.2 => /usr/lib/libdrm.so.2 (0xb5991000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x80049000)
libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0xb5988000)
libuuid.so.1 => /lib/libuuid.so.1 (0xb5982000)
libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0xb5969000)
libnssutil3.so => /usr/lib/libnssutil3.so (0xb593f000)
libplc4.so => /usr/lib/libplc4.so (0xb5937000)
libplds4.so => /usr/lib/libplds4.so (0xb5932000)
libz.so.1 => /lib/libz.so.1 (0xb591d000)
libXinerama.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXinerama.so.1 (0xb5919000)
libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 (0xb590b000)
libatk-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0 (0xb58e6000)
libcairo.so.2 => /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2 (0xb57f3000)
libpixman-1.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0 (0xb575e000)
libxcb-shm.so.0 => /usr/lib/libxcb-shm.so.0 (0xb575a000)
libxcb-render.so.0 => /usr/lib/libxcb-render.so.0 (0xb574c000)
libXrender.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0xb5742000)
libgio-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgio-2.0.so.0 (0xb5598000)
libgmodule-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 (0xb5593000)
libresolv.so.2 => /lib/libresolv.so.2 (0xb557c000)
libmount.so.1 => /lib/libmount.so.1 (0xb552a000)
libblkid.so.1 => /lib/libblkid.so.1 (0xb54e2000)
libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 (0xb54cc000)
libgthread-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0 (0xb54c9000)
libffi.so.6 => /usr/lib/libffi.so.6 (0xb54c1000)
libxml2.so.2 => /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2 (0xb537f000)
liblzma.so.5 => /lib/liblzma.so.5 (0xb5361000)
libharfbuzz.so.0 => /usr/lib/libharfbuzz.so.0 (0xb52ea000)
libpcre.so.1 => /lib/libpcre.so.1 (0xb5287000)
libbz2.so.1.0 => /lib/libbz2.so.1.0 (0xb5275000)
libpng16.so.16 => /usr/lib/libpng16.so.16 (0xb5242000)
root@slitaz:~#

# Ceel @ Fri, 20 Oct 2017 18:03:15 UTC link

Since last update last week (wed 2017/10/13 I think), icons on desktop and windows are not correctly displayed + unable to resize or move a window.

[attachment=45563,2592] [attachment=45563,2593]

# Aleksej @ Sat, 21 Oct 2017 04:01:39 UTC link

Hi Ceel,

I see on your pictures that Openbox is not running.
I already encountered this situation, when I chose (changed) the themes of the appearance.

Please, check which Openbox themes [1] you have and write it manually in the config [2].

[1] /usr/share/themes/theme-name/openbox3/

[2] /etc/xdg/openbox/rc.xml (about line 38):

<theme>
  <name>Put theme name here</name>
...

Then you can {log out and log in} or {start openbox using {terminal or console}} to take effect.

Sorry, seems like Openbox theme I've put into ISO not matched the one from rc.xml.

# Ceel @ Sat, 21 Oct 2017 17:38:26 UTC link

Thanks Aleksej, it did it.

Other problem after update last night; directories /dev/pts, /dev/shm, /proc, /sys and /var/lock are mounted and displayed on the desktop.

[attachment=45570,2594]

EDIT: and don't see the partitions of my HD in PCManFM.

# guest_account @ Sun, 22 Oct 2017 20:47:51 UTC link

@Aleksej:

By chance, were you not able to see my previous message?

I already learned slitaz-next does not support the default mirror.slitaz.org URL, giving an error. In fact, it's neither well supported on Slitaz 5.0, so what I always do when live booting 5.0 is running as root:

sed -ri 's/.{13}/&1/' /var/lib/tazpkg/mirror

To change default mirror to mirror1.slitaz.org, then it can recharge.
However how can one trust this mirror, which should be *better* either for 5.0 and Next, if it's down with error 503 "due to overload" several times a month? It's down periods have been still relatively low and maybe that's why nobody has noticed, but it does happen often!

Also, two issues apart:
--Any success in building hexchat 2.12 for 5.0?
--Is it harmful for both slitaz 5.0 and Next to press the windows key on keyboard out of mistake? This worries me.

Thanks again.

# Aleksej @ Sun, 22 Oct 2017 23:27:02 UTC link

Hi Ceel,

It's known problem. To fix it, please check your ~/.xinitrc file. It seems, it changed for some unknown reason. There you can see a tangled commands, but they may be untangled in the next way:

Variable EXEC with some (important!) content. Then "case" that launches the "$EXEC lxde-session". Nothing else matters.

I tried with the EXEC content in the 5 variants:

  1. exec: dbus error on the screen and proc, pts, shm, sys and lock mounted points on the display.
  2. exec dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session: dbus error, mount points are hidden out of desktop.
  3. exec ck-launch-session: no dbus error, mounted points are here.
  4. exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session: no errors, all works.
  5. exec dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session ck-launch-session: all the same as above.

 

So, you need properly working copies of dbus-launch (package dbus) and ck-launch-session (package consolekit2) and properly combine the commands in your ~/.xinitrc.

# Aleksej @ Sun, 22 Oct 2017 23:38:08 UTC link

Hi guest_account,

However how can one trust this mirror, which should be *better* either for 5.0 and Next, if it's down with error 503 "due to overload" several times a month? It's down periods have been still relatively low and maybe that's why nobody has noticed, but it does happen often!

It's none of my business. Not "my game". The SliTaz founders decided so.

I do not touch the server back end. I do not understand almost anything there ;-)

You can post your request into mailing list (or directly) to Pascal Bellard or Eric Joseph-Alexandre.

Any success in building hexchat 2.12 for 5.0?

Here I have now affairs more interesting. Sorry.

Is it harmful for both slitaz 5.0 and Next to press the windows key on keyboard out of mistake? This worries me.

I pressed it right now. Nothing special. Or is it a joke?

# devl547 @ Tue, 24 Oct 2017 09:14:03 UTC link

>It's none of my business. Not "my game". The SliTaz founders decided so.

That's the reason I quietly suspended all my SliTaz work except for my localhost stuff)
A ton of software updates need updating also the base packages like kernel and gcc.

My dev system is AMD Kaveri-based one, so having a fresh kernel and mesa is a must. But sadly they are not available in -rolling.

# Aleksej @ Tue, 24 Oct 2017 10:53:20 UTC link

Alexander, wake up man!

> fresh kernel
http://cook.slitaz.org/next/linux
>and mesa
http://cook.slitaz.org/next/mesa17
Do you need even more fresh?

Want Qt5?
http://cook.slitaz.org/next/qt5
Maybe fresh LXQt?
http://pkgs.slitaz.org/?tags=LXQt&version=n
Fresh MATE will come in few days.

Want more examples of "my business"?
http://cook.slitaz.org/next/
http://hg.slitaz.org/ -> http://hg.slitaz.org/wok-next/

You can criticize me for my words, but I really will not do what I almost do not understand. There's a special person exists, Eric Joseph-Alexandre who revive the servers after period of non-availability, and you may read these facts in mailing list:
https://listengine.tuxfamily.org/lists.tuxfamily.org/slitaz/2017/09/maillist.html
There's not a lot messages on that page. Please read them all. Bye.

# az_ua @ Tue, 24 Oct 2017 14:55:36 UTC link

revive the servers after period of non-availability

New cpu is great, it compiles palemoon in 35 minutes! But why memory is only 2Gb?
***

Fresh MATE will come in few days.

Last gtk2 version please (1.16), "fresh" MATE is really in early stage of rewriting to gtk3 (and will be there forever) and broken.
***
About 503 on mirror: really it's a big bug of tazpkg. ISO must contain mirrors.txt and tazpkg should auto switch between them on error case.

# Aleksej @ Tue, 24 Oct 2017 15:50:19 UTC link

Hi Alex,

New cpu is great

Say thanks to Pascal. That CPU is about 3 times faster than my laptop. It's very very cool (but I afraid Pascal made it for a limited time only).

Last gtk2 version please (1.16)

Sorry, but I make the latest version, and many packages are done, and I want to finish it before anything else.
Maybe you can make the gtk2 version? But please add suffixes to the packages name like "-gtk2" to not intersect with the latest packages I do. (I realized the not bad if any latest package will be without suffixes while package with dropped GTK+2 support will have suffix "-gtk2"; while packages that may compile the same version both with GTK+2 and GTK+3 (like SpaceFM) will have suffixes "-gtk2" and "-gtk3" respectively.)

"fresh" MATE is really in early stage of rewriting to gtk3 (and will be there forever) and broken.

Bad guys fooled you with irrelevant info. There's from the 1.18 release note:

The entire MATE Desktop suite of applications and components is now GTK3+ only!

And all I compiled until today (1.19.x versions) is compiled very well here.

ISO must contain mirrors.txt

Easy to implement though anyone not made it yet.

tazpkg should auto switch between them on error case.

Great idea, I hope someone someday will realize it.

# Aleksej @ Tue, 24 Oct 2017 16:09:29 UTC link

Something of my observations about mirror1 unavailability.

It started on midnight UTC and stills some time (about half an hour or so) - I think the packages are synchronized that time. The pkgs.slitaz.org also unavailable because it hosts on the same server.

Touching "mirror" meta-server (not to be confused with "mirror1").
I launched now a simple script:

while true; do
    wget --spider -S http://mirror.slitaz.org/packages/next/IDs
done

Mirror servers working well now. IP addresses are 188.165.229.172 and 212.83.135.187 (with redirection to download.tuxfamily.org 88.191.250.171, 88.191.250.18) only. I believe Pascal or Eric-Joseph are already fixed the issues.

# devl547 @ Tue, 24 Oct 2017 19:04:08 UTC link

>Alexander, wake up man!

Aleksej, I highly appreciate your work, but that's still an experimental branch, not even unstable rolling repo.

Sure, I can use it, but what about other users?

// Я тут уже год с youtube-каналом gameone развлекаюсь, сейчас приехали на месяц для тестов Интел и AMD Threadripper топовые, надо ради интереса тесты сборки каких-нибудь крупных пакетов на них провести.

# Aleksej @ Tue, 24 Oct 2017 20:20:30 UTC link

Да ну тебя с таким кисляком! ;)

Слил свои проекты ну и ладно, зачем оправдываться-то? Вон, Панксо же никто не осуждает. Я знаю, со временем всё может надоесть. Всё нормально.

Насчёт «юзать». Я и сам ещё не юзаю, если что. Вот, пакеты обновляю, пока еще не насто€бенило.

# Ceel @ Tue, 24 Oct 2017 21:13:57 UTC link

Hi Aleksej,

Thanks for your reply. The ~/.xinitrc file was correct and dbus and consolekit2 correctly installed.
I had a look in the tazpkg.log file --> udisks2 has been updated: repacked it from a live session with the Next ISO 170930, forced install on my full installation and all is clear now.
/dev/pts, /dev/shm, /proc, /sys and /var/lock don't appear after closing/opening session, the partions of the HD are mounted and appear in PCManFM and USB sticks are automatically mounted again. :)

# Aleksej @ Tue, 24 Oct 2017 22:02:51 UTC link

Hi Ceel,

Thank you for (as usual) relevant info.

Since 170930 udisks2 was updated from 2.1.8 to 2.7.2: http://hg.slitaz.org/wok-next/diff/0a667524ce79/udisks2/receipt
Looks like it need to rebuild all the packages that depends on the new udisks2 and problem should go away.

# az_ua @ Tue, 24 Oct 2017 22:42:55 UTC link

Looks like it need to rebuild all the packages that depends on the new udisks2 and problem should go away.

Better to remove udisks2 and replace it by udisks2-kitless.

# Aleksej @ Wed, 25 Oct 2017 04:08:11 UTC link

Better to remove udisks2 and replace it by udisks2-kitless.

I unsure. On the one hand it sounds cool, but on the other hand the author of that fork noted the following:

Expect limited, broken, and possibly dangerous functionality.

# alanyih @ Tue, 31 Oct 2017 04:08:53 UTC link

vivaldi

libgtk-3.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Depends : gtk+ bash libcups libexif GConf nss mesa

root@slitaz:~# tazpkg -sm http://mirror1.slitaz.org/packages/next/
Creating folder "/var/cache/tazpkg"... [ Done ]

Recharging repository "Main"
================================================================================
Checking... [ Done ]
Database timestamp: 10/29/2017 20:54
Creating backup of the last packages list... [ Done ]
Getting "bundle.tar.lzma"... [ Done ]
Getting "files-list.lzma"... [ Done ]
================================================================================
Last database is ready to use.

Note that next time you recharge the list, a list of differences will be
displayed to show new and upgradeable packages.

Current mirror(s)
================================================================================
http://mirror.slitaz.org/packages/next/
Please enter URL of the new mirror (http, ftp or local path). You must specify
the complete address to the directory of the packages and packages.list file.

New mirror(s) URL: http://mirror1.slitaz.org/packages/next/
Setting mirror(s) to: "http://mirror1.slitaz.org/packages/next/"

root@slitaz:~# tazpkg -s vivaldi

Search result for "vivaldi"
================================================================================
Installed packages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
================================================================================
0 installed packages found for "vivaldi"

Available packages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
get-vivaldi 1.0 non-free
vivaldi (extra)
================================================================================
2 available packages found for "vivaldi"

root@slitaz:~# tazpkg -gi vivaldi
Unable to find package "vivaldi" in the mirrored packages list.
get-vivaldi-1.0.tazp 100% |*******************************| 2180 0:00:00 ETA
Tracking dependencies for package "get-vivaldi"
================================================================================
Missing package "wget"
================================================================================
1 missing package to install.

wget-1.19.1.tazpkg 100% |*******************************| 146k 0:00:00 ETA
Installation of package "wget"
================================================================================
GNU Wget - the non-interactive network downloader
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Copying package... [ Done ]
Extracting package... [ Done ]
Remember modified packages... [ Done ]
Saving configuration files... [ Done ]
Installing package... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
================================================================================
Package "wget" (1.19.1) is installed.

Installation of package "get-vivaldi"
================================================================================
An advanced browser made with the power user in mind
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Copying package... [ Done ]
Extracting package... [ Done ]
Remember modified packages... [ Done ]
Installing package... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
================================================================================
Package "get-vivaldi" (1.0) is installed.

root@slitaz:~# get-vivaldi
Connecting to vivaldi.com (104.20.65.251:443)
Connecting to vivaldi.com (104.20.65.251:80)
Connecting to vivaldi.com (104.20.65.251:443)
- 100% |*******************************| 29586 0:00:00 ETA
Connecting to downloads.vivaldi.com (151.139.104.122:443)
vivaldi-stable-1.12. 100% |*******************************| 50299k 0:00:00 ETA
369026 blocks

Packing package "vivaldi-vivaldi-stable-1.12.955.48-1.i386.rpm"
================================================================================
Creating the list of files... [ Done ]
Creating md5sum of files... [ Done ]
Compressing the FS... [ Done ]
Updating receipt sizes... [ Done ]
Creating full cpio archive... [ Done ]
Restoring original package tree... [ Done ]
================================================================================
Package "vivaldi-vivaldi-stable-1.12.955.48-1.i386.rpm" compressed successfully.

Size: 68.9M
rm: invalid option -- 'a'

Command line: rm -rf -vivaldi-stable-1.12.955.48-1.i386.rpm

BusyBox v1.27.2 (2017-09-29 18:03:35 Europe) multi-call binary.

Usage: rm [-irf] FILE...

Remove (unlink) FILEs

-i Always prompt before removing
-f Never prompt
-R,-r Recurse

Tracking dependencies for package "vivaldi"
================================================================================
Missing package "bash"
Missing package "GConf"
Missing package "nss"
Missing package "mesa"
================================================================================
4 missing packages to install.

bash-4.4.12.tazpkg 100% |*******************************| 296k 0:00:00 ETA
Installation of package "bash"
================================================================================
The GNU bourne shell
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Copying package... [ Done ]
Extracting package... [ Done ]
Remember modified packages... [ Done ]
Installing package... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
Execute post-install commands... [ Done ]
================================================================================
Package "bash" (4.4.12) is installed.

GConf-2.32.3.tazpkg 100% |*******************************| 186k 0:00:00 ETA
Tracking dependencies for package "GConf"
================================================================================
Missing package "ORBit2"
================================================================================
1 missing package to install.

orbit2-2.14.19.tazpk 100% |*******************************| 163k 0:00:00 ETA
Tracking dependencies for package "orbit2"
================================================================================
Missing package "libidl"
================================================================================
1 missing package to install.

libidl-0.8.14.tazpkg 100% |*******************************| 55164 0:00:00 ETA
Installation of package "libidl"
================================================================================
IDL Compiling Library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Copying package... [ Done ]
Extracting package... [ Done ]
Remember modified packages... [ Done ]
Installing package... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
================================================================================
Package "libidl" (0.8.14) is installed.

Installation of package "orbit2"
================================================================================
A CORBA 2.4-compliant Object Request Broker (ORB) - deprecated
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Copying package... [ Done ]
Extracting package... [ Done ]
Remember modified packages... [ Done ]
Installing package... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
================================================================================
Package "orbit2" (2.14.19) is installed.

Installation of package "GConf"
================================================================================
A configuration database system.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Copying package... [ Done ]
Extracting package... [ Done ]
Remember modified packages... [ Done ]
Installing package... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
================================================================================
Package "GConf" (2.32.3) is installed.

nss-3.29.tazpkg 100% |*******************************| 1237k 0:00:00 ETA
Installation of package "nss"
================================================================================
Mozilla Network Security Services (NSS)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Copying package... [ Done ]
Extracting package... [ Done ]
Remember modified packages... [ Done ]
Installing package... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
================================================================================
Package "nss" (3.29) is installed.

mesa-12.0.6.tazpkg 100% |*******************************| 2293k 0:00:00 ETA
Tracking dependencies for package "mesa"
================================================================================
Missing package "xorg-libXxf86vm"
================================================================================
1 missing package to install.

xorg-libXxf86vm-1.1. 100% |*******************************| 7396 0:00:00 ETA
Installation of package "xorg-libXxf86vm"
================================================================================
XFree86-VidMode extension library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Copying package... [ Done ]
Extracting package... [ Done ]
Remember modified packages... [ Done ]
Installing package... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
================================================================================
Package "xorg-libXxf86vm" (1.1.4) is installed.

Installation of package "mesa"
================================================================================
3D Graphics Library that is an open-source implementaton of OpenGL.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Copying package... [ Done ]
Extracting package... [ Done ]
Remember modified packages... [ Done ]
Saving configuration files... [ Done ]
Installing package... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
================================================================================
Package "mesa" (12.0.6) is installed.

Installation of package "vivaldi"
================================================================================
An advanced browser made with the power user in mind
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Copying package... [ Done ]
Extracting package... [ Done ]
Remember modified packages... [ Done ]
Installing package... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
Update system databases... [ Done ]
================================================================================
Package "vivaldi" (vivaldi-stable-1.12.955.48-1.i386.rpm) is installed.

/root
root@slitaz:~#

root@slitaz:~# tazpkg info vivaldi

TazPkg information
================================================================================
Package : vivaldi
State : installed package
Version : vivaldi-stable-1.12.955.48-1.i386.rpm (new version "" available)
Category : non-free
Short desc : An advanced browser made with the power user in mind
Depends : gtk+ bash libcups libexif GConf nss mesa
Web site : https://vivaldi.com/
Size : 64K/181.1M
================================================================================

root@slitaz:~# ldd /opt/vivaldi/vivaldi-bin | grep 'not found'
libgtk-3.so.0 => not found
libgdk-3.so.0 => not found

root@slitaz:~#

tux@slitaz:~$ vivaldi-stable
tux@slitaz:~$ /usr/bin/vivaldi-stable: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-3.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

# alanyih @ Tue, 31 Oct 2017 04:25:01 UTC link


tazweb
Settings schema 'org.gnome.system.proxy' is not installed

# tazpkg -gi gsettings-desktop-schemas

root@slitaz:~# tazpkg info tazweb

TazPkg information
==============================================================================================================
Package : tazweb
State : installed package
Version : 208
Category : network
Short desc : SliTaz simple, fast and small Web Browser
Maintainer : pankso@slitaz.org
License : BSD
Depends : atk cairo fontconfig freetype gdk-pixbuf glib gtk+ libsoup pango webkitgtk
Web site : http://www.slitaz.org/
Size : 24K/100K
Tags : web-browser
==============================================================================================================

tux@slitaz:~$ tazweb &
tux@slitaz:~$
(tazweb:30874): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'org.gnome.system.proxy' is not installed

# Aleksej @ Tue, 31 Oct 2017 11:31:02 UTC link

Hi Alan,

Vivaldi.

Package get-vivaldi removed now. Please use new vivaldi package.

TazWeb.

gsettings-desktop-schemas, tazweb, midori updated: http://hg.slitaz.org/wok-next/rev/064e844c047a

Thank you!

# alanyih @ Wed, 01 Nov 2017 12:40:18 UTC link


smplayer-17.10.2

libQt5Script.so.5 => not found
libatomic.so.1 => not found

# tazpkg -gi qt5-script
# tazpkg -gi libxkbcommon-x11
http://cook.slitaz.org/next/gcc/browse/taz/gcc-6.3.0/fs/usr/lib/libatomic.so.1.2.0

root@slitaz:~# tazpkg info smplayer

TazPkg information
=======================================================================================
Package : smplayer
State : installed package
Version : 17.10.2
Category : multimedia
Short desc : QT-based front-end for MPlayer or mpv
Maintainer : psychomaniak@xakep.ru
License : GPL2
Depends : mplayer-cli qt5-base
Suggested : smplayer-themes mpv
Web site : http://smplayer.sourceforge.net/
Size : 1.9M/6M
Tags : player audio video movie
=======================================================================================

root@slitaz:~# ldd /usr/bin/smplayer | grep 'not found'
libQt5Script.so.5 => not found
libatomic.so.1 => not found
libatomic.so.1 => not found
libatomic.so.1 => not found
libatomic.so.1 => not found
libatomic.so.1 => not found
libatomic.so.1 => not found
libatomic.so.1 => not found

root@slitaz:~# tazpkg -sp libatomic.so

Search result for package "libatomic.so"
=======================================================================================
gcc
gcc49
gcc54
gcc61
=======================================================================================
4 packages

libatomic.so.1.2.0
http://cook.slitaz.org/next/gcc/browse/taz/gcc-6.3.0/fs/usr/lib/libatomic.so.1.2.0

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Aug 11 01:56 /usr/lib/libatomic.so -> libatomic.so.1.2.0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Aug 11 01:56 /usr/lib/libatomic.so.1 -> libatomic.so.1.2.0
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 21892 Aug 11 01:56 /usr/lib/libatomic.so.1.2.0

# gzuszando @ Wed, 01 Nov 2017 17:38:13 UTC link

Can I log in without having to enter a login and password or correct the login screen? My login screen contains errors, if you can at least tell me the file that I can modify.

[attachment=45686,2605]

# Ceel @ Wed, 01 Nov 2017 19:59:37 UTC link

In menu.lst, add autologin at the end of the kernel line.

# gzuszando @ Wed, 01 Nov 2017 20:44:00 UTC link

Ceel, you're a 1000 note. Thank you very much one more time.

# guest_account @ Tue, 07 Nov 2017 06:06:34 UTC link

Since rarlab website (winrar's home website) switched to https the get-rar package now tries *twice* to connect to http://www.rarlab.com url when running get-rar.
First time through port 80 and second time through ssl port. Though it seemingly still manages to install rar on Slitaz Next and 5.0

Is this ana acceptable behavior for get-rar package, or should it be fixed?

# oui @ Fri, 10 Nov 2017 00:13:21 UTC link

Same picture as gzusando a week ago (see above) but the first protokol line at boot time is:

" fail to find cpu device mode "

(cpu 8x Intel Core i7-2670QM, Memory 8000MB, VGA comp. contr. NVIDIA GF108m GeForce GT 540M )

no problem to enter into the console box with option "ro quite " at the end of the kernel line

(# linux /var/next/boot/bzImage mount=/dev/sda6 subroot=var/next ro quiet screen=text )

as i use for SliTaz

and, after that, to manipulate tazx offering all option twice or very more like "intel" (i need intel in actual Slitaz); did try all intel option starting slim out tazx. nothing to do

# kultex @ Thu, 16 Nov 2017 09:55:40 UTC link

try to upload your txt file - it wa sno problem

# Ceel @ Thu, 16 Nov 2017 19:16:27 UTC link

@ kultex,

Nope... Still the same :/ denied mime; this problem exists for a few months but Key Masters can.

[attachment=45771,2620]

# kultex @ Fri, 17 Nov 2017 09:03:14 UTC link

is it only txt or are there others.....

# Ceel @ Fri, 17 Nov 2017 13:40:59 UTC link

gif, jpeg, jpg and png are OK.

Denied mime with txt, sh, log, pdf, zip, gz and tazpkg

# Ceel @ Wed, 22 Nov 2017 21:50:27 UTC link

After tests, found that are the new builds of slitaz-base-files, slitaz-configs and slitaz-config-base that break my system (my post). If I don't update them, my computer boots without any problems.

Did you already notice that it is not possible to login as root? (that didn't help me :-( )

# mojo @ Wed, 22 Nov 2017 22:33:45 UTC link

slitaz-next-170930.iso
Slitaz-configs has 2 .xinitrc files
/etc/skel/.xinitrc => for tux and regular user accounts
/root/.xinitrc => for root account
Iso was built with regular user .xinitrc installed in /root
Slim root account login fails due to /root/.xinitrc sourcing non-existent path to applications.conf
Edit /root/.xinitrc
Change
. $HOME/.config/slitaz/applications.conf
to
. /etc/slitaz/applications.conf

# alanyih @ Sun, 26 Nov 2017 09:54:06 UTC link


qtwebkit-5.212.0-alpha2

/bin/sh: QtTestBrowser: not found

libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile
Segmentation fault

1.
root@slitaz:~# QtTestBrowser
/bin/sh: QtTestBrowser: not found

root@slitaz:~# ls -l /usr/bin/QtTestBrowser
ls: /usr/bin/QtTestBrowser: No such file or directory

root@slitaz:~# tazpkg -lf qtwebkit | grep QtTestBrowser
/usr/share/applications/QtTestBrowser.desktop

2.
# SliTaz package receipt.
http://cook.slitaz.org/next/qtwebkit/receipt

PACKAGE="qtwebkit"
VERSION="5.212.0-alpha2"
CATEGORY="network"
SHORT_DESC="KDE version of Qt Webkit browser engine."
MAINTAINER="psychomaniak@xakep.ru"
LICENSE="GPL"
TARBALL="$PACKAGE-$VERSION.tar.xz"
WEB_SITE="http://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtwebkit.git/"
WEB_SITE_2="https://github.com/annulen/webkit/"
WGET_URL="${WEB_SITE_2}releases/download/${TARBALL/.tar*/}/$TARBALL"

PROVIDE="libQtWebkit"

DEPENDS="qt5 sqlite3 hyphen libxslt" # gstreamer1 gst1-plugins-base
[..]

genpkg_rules()
{
# qtwebkit
mkdir -p $fs/usr/lib $fs/usr/bin $fs/usr/share/applications

# cp -a $src/WebKitBuild/Release/bin/QtTestBrowser $fs/usr/bin

# cp -a $install/usr/lib/*.so* $fs/usr/lib
cat > $fs/usr/share/applications/QtTestBrowser.desktop <<EOT
[Desktop Entry]
Type=Application
Name=QtTestBrowser
Exec=QtTestBrowser
Categories=Network;WebBrowser;
EOT

# qtwebkit + qtwebkit-dev:
cp -a $install/* $fs

}

3.
QtTestBrowser 2017-Oct-29 20:56:55 279.5K
http://cook.slitaz.org/next/qtwebkit/browse/source/qtwebkit-5.212.0-alpha2/WebKitBuild/Release/bin/QtTestBrowser

root@slitaz:~# QtTestBrowser
QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-root'
libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile
libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile
Segmentation fault

# alanyih @ Sun, 26 Nov 2017 10:40:38 UTC link

qtwebkit - qt5

DEPENDS="qt5 sqlite3 hyphen libxslt" # gstreamer1 gst1-plugins-base

qt5-location qt5-sensors qt5-webchannel

root@slitaz:~# ldd /usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5.212.0

/usr/lib/libQt5WebKit.so.5.212.0:
linux-gate.so.1 (0xb7705000)
libicuuc.so.58 => /usr/lib/libicuuc.so.58 (0xb54b8000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0xb5390000)
libXcomposite.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXcomposite.so.1 (0xb538c000)
libXrender.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0xb5382000)
libQt5Gui.so.5 => /usr/lib/libQt5Gui.so.5 (0xb4df1000)
libQt5Network.so.5 => /usr/lib/libQt5Network.so.5 (0xb4c20000)
libicui18n.so.58 => /usr/lib/libicui18n.so.58 (0xb49e8000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb49e3000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0xb49c5000)
libQt5Core.so.5 => /usr/lib/libQt5Core.so.5 (0xb444d000)
libjpeg.so.8 => /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.8 (0xb43e5000)
libpng16.so.16 => /usr/lib/libpng16.so.16 (0xb43b2000)
libz.so.1 => /lib/libz.so.1 (0xb439d000)
libhyphen.so.0 => /usr/lib/libhyphen.so.0 (0xb4397000)
libxml2.so.2 => /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2 (0xb4255000)
libxslt.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxslt.so.1 (0xb4217000)
libsqlite3.so.0 => /usr/lib/libsqlite3.so.0 (0xb416e000)
libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0xb403f000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0xb3fe2000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xb3fc9000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb3e40000)
/lib/ld-2.25.so (0x8001e000)
libicudata.so.58 => /usr/lib/libicudata.so.58 (0xb253d000)
libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0xb2516000)
libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0xb2512000)
libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0xb250b000)
libGL.so.1 => /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 (0xb249a000)
libharfbuzz.so.0 => /usr/lib/libharfbuzz.so.0 (0xb2423000)
libssl.so.1.0.0 => /usr/lib/libssl.so.1.0.0 (0xb23ab000)
libcrypto.so.1.0.0 => /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.1.0.0 (0xb2188000)
libgthread-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0 (0xb2185000)
libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0xb2081000)
liblzma.so.5 => /lib/liblzma.so.5 (0xb2063000)
libexpat.so.1 => /usr/lib/libexpat.so.1 (0xb2041000)
libxcb-dri3.so.0 => /usr/lib/libxcb-dri3.so.0 (0xb203d000)
libxcb-xfixes.so.0 => /usr/lib/libxcb-xfixes.so.0 (0xb2035000)
libxcb-present.so.0 => /usr/lib/libxcb-present.so.0 (0xb2031000)
libxcb-sync.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb-sync.so.1 (0xb202a000)
libxshmfence.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxshmfence.so.1 (0xb2027000)
libglapi.so.0 => /usr/lib/libglapi.so.0 (0xb2009000)
libXdamage.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXdamage.so.1 (0xb2005000)
libXfixes.so.3 => /usr/lib/libXfixes.so.3 (0xb1ffe000)
libX11-xcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libX11-xcb.so.1 (0xb1ffb000)
libxcb-glx.so.0 => /usr/lib/libxcb-glx.so.0 (0xb1fe1000)
libxcb-dri2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libxcb-dri2.so.0 (0xb1fd9000)
libXxf86vm.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1 (0xb1fd3000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0xb1fc1000)
libdrm.so.2 => /usr/lib/libdrm.so.2 (0xb1fb0000)
libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0xb1f13000)
libpcre.so.1 => /lib/libpcre.so.1 (0xb1eb2000)
libbz2.so.1.0 => /lib/libbz2.so.1.0 (0xb1ea0000)

root@slitaz:~# tail -25 /var/lib/tazpkg/installed.md5
e0db37a16edc63d40260026eb4d2c36e opusfile-0.9.tazpkg
e379ebfe3e8c357931df42b01b36f1d7 slitaz-next-170930.tazpkg
31ee6d3953d3518ba6d374a30627454d qtwebkit-5.212.0-alpha2.tazpkg
c78604b0390a57cb40f86fd69f2f3673 qt5-location-5.9.1.tazpkg
fef5c533c4a20872fd83e4f32cc76b88 qt5-base-5.9.1.tazpkg
0de0f21d399164eb3143bc64a34598e4 icu-58.2.tazpkg
2f63046738e8d6adcdc48e5d01357c65 libicu-58.2.tazpkg
e8e727b1b44689cb861da046e350534b libinput-1.8.0.tazpkg
ac0fe8a99bd58db3746ae55a20725e6b libxkbcommon-0.7.2.tazpkg
9dbb1434cbbf7dfe812ed1f28e865275 libxkbcommon-x11-0.7.2.tazpkg
54a5556f288aac8b0e0db15fa00a178b mesa17-17.2.4.tazpkg
0a3186e587f4f5693ccf6f2a56a1626f xorg-libXxf86vm-1.1.4.tazpkg
dbd523615da365ad18fc8b93c53b485d tslib-1.0.tazpkg
6698430d0ed365535c5f3dc852de4a80 libatomic-6.3.0.tazpkg
6cd3e6f5814c1c084a8b05495b35dbb0 qt5-declarative-5.9.1.tazpkg
0d3070cf9ad416fd6af22ad6601a77bd qt5-remoteobjects-5.9.1.tazpkg
3949c9d6a01429ed423446e17f3b1ad3 qt5-xmlpatterns-5.9.1.tazpkg
18b8a17f36c473089427cadd3cedc4b3 qt5-sensors-5.9.1.tazpkg
8400d64d58e40abb74484d25717f541d qt5-webchannel-5.9.1.tazpkg
2110215e6932922125c142629069ab35 hyphen-2.8.8.tazpkg
aa32b0452f12fa49e3d5206d4bc40151 libxslt-1.1.29.tazpkg
a65dd38e2d4e42a7dda6efc0957f0d3a gst1-plugins-base-1.10.3.tazpkg
ad696f3dd5c40ec7c2bc8d234ea0024c gstreamer1-1.10.3.tazpkg
4ec7e97ee2487bb536cbe46880a96bf8 libtheora-enc-1.1.1.tazpkg
fdf75ec38d4d87ebfd89a9183f641c17 orc-0.4.26.tazpkg
root@slitaz:~#

# alanyih @ Mon, 27 Nov 2017 15:58:41 UTC link

QtWe-5ba3

sh: QtWeb: not found

1.
root@slitaz:~# QtWeb
sh: QtWeb: not found

root@slitaz:~# tazpkg -lf QtWeb

Installed files by "QtWeb"
================================================================================
/usr/share/applications/QtWeb.desktop
================================================================================
1 file

root@slitaz:~# tazpkg -s qtweb

Search result for "qtweb"
================================================================================
Installed packages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
QtWeb 5ba3 network

================================================================================
1 installed packages found for "qtweb"

Available packages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
QtWeb 5ba3 network
qtwebkit 5.212.0-alpha2 network
================================================================================
2 available packages found for "qtweb"

root@slitaz:~#

2.
http://cook.slitaz.org/next/QtWeb/log/#l857

make: *** [Makefile:1807: obj/webview.o] Error 1
make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
install: can't stat '${src}/src/QtWeb': No such file or directory

[..]

Pack: QtWeb 5ba3
================================================================================
Executing: genpkg_rules
cp: can't stat '${install}/*': No such file or directory
Copying "receipt"... Done
Executing strip on all files... Done
Creating the list of files... Done
Creating md5sum of files... Done
Compressing the FS... Done
Updating receipt sizes... Done
Creating full cpio archive... Done
QA: checking for empty package... Done
================================================================================
Package "QtWeb-5ba3.tazpkg" created

The release checksum has not changed.

Debug information
================================================================================
Cook date: 2017-10-26 22:50
Wasted time : 147s ~ 2m
703:webview.cpp:432:86: error: call of overloaded 'abs(float)' is ambiguous
734:webview.cpp:435:86: error: call of overloaded 'abs(float)' is ambiguous
765:webview.cpp:438:86: error: call of overloaded 'abs(float)' is ambiguous
796:webview.cpp:441:86: error: call of overloaded 'abs(float)' is ambiguous
859:install: can't stat '${src}/src/QtWeb': No such file or directory
916:cp: can't stat '${install}/*': No such file or directory

3.
DB: broken - Packages: 195
http://cook.slitaz.org/next/?broken

Qt4-qca-ossl
QtWeb

[..]

# lm2 @ Thu, 30 Nov 2017 17:10:35 UTC link

just for the record, for slitaz 5 STABLE, we are expecting, as end-users :
- independent wifi manager (as x-randr is managing extended-screen independently) who could manage psk-based wifi and other forms of authentication (as peap, etc..) through profiles; switching from a wifi to another without root password or key/auth asked again

- power management tool (using pm-suspend not in root, avoid savage shutdown because of out of battery)

-100% uefi compatibility

-avoid mess of get-libreoffice setup

-tool for changing brightness without touchkeys (as not taken in charge, avoid changing /sys/class/..../brightnesss, everybody is not a root user)

etc..luck!

# guest_account @ Fri, 01 Dec 2017 02:19:50 UTC link

Totally agree with lm2's post above, though I'd add these as well (hope @Ceel and @mojo could see this):

- more recent hexchat (currently 2.12) either for 5.0 and Next.
Though @Aleksej has already stated he has not the least interest in this thing... hope any other moderator could watch this...

- fix get-rar package
Since rarlab site switched to https the get-rar package now tries *twice* to connect to http://www.rarlab.com url when running get-rar.
First time through port 80 and second time through ssl port. Though it seemingly still somewhat manages to install rar on Slitaz Next and 5.0

- a full Slitaz x86_64 once and for all!
I'm clueless about what @alanyih has been focusing on lately, he only posts mad logs in this thread and in his Slitaz x86_64 thread it looks like he only wanted to advertise Docker (is he an employee?). He never replies to email.

- change default slitaz mirror!
Default mirror.slitaz.org url is not well supported in 5.0, it often refuses connection. And it's totally unsupported in slitaz-next, giving an error.
In both cases we need to change default mirror to mirror1.slitaz.org , which is better... or should be. It's down with error 503 "due to overload" several times a month! It's down periods have been still relatively low and maybe that's why nobody has noticed, but it does happen often!

# Aleksej @ Fri, 01 Dec 2017 14:25:57 UTC link

- fix get-rar package

Please get the renewed version:
http://cook.slitaz.org/next/get-rar/download

I'm clueless about what @alanyih has been focusing on lately, he only posts mad logs

Note, he's Chinese. And I think he specifically choose this method of communication. These "mad logs" are technical information only for that who understand what is it. Skip it.

- change default slitaz mirror!

Probably will be changed in the next ISO release.
Although, the date of the next release is misty.

# guest_account @ Fri, 01 Dec 2017 17:23:50 UTC link

@Aleksej:

The get-rar package, was it fixed only for slitaz-next, or also for slitaz 5.0?
Last time I tried on 5.0 it still had the issue!

You already stated you don't give an absolute d**n about them, but still anyways, any news regarding the other 2 points, or lm2's points?

# Aleksej @ Fri, 01 Dec 2017 22:48:26 UTC link

No guys, I still have no time and no desire to make what do you want.

# alanyih @ Tue, 05 Dec 2017 17:18:58 UTC link

>He never replies to email.

Tried contacting, only response was:
"Try it!
http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/slitaz-x86_64#post-43384"

http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/planning-on-switching-to-64-bit#post-45348

----

>he only posts mad logs in this thread

vivaldi

libgtk-3.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Depends : gtk+ bash libcups libexif GConf nss mesa

http://hg.slitaz.org/wok-next/rev/c46076e02bcc

tazweb

Settings schema 'org.gnome.system.proxy' is not installed

# tazpkg -gi gsettings-desktop-schemas

http://hg.slitaz.org/wok-next/rev/064e844c047a

smplayer-17.10.2

libQt5Script.so.5 => not found
libatomic.so.1 => not found

# tazpkg -gi qt5-script
# tazpkg -gi libxkbcommon-x11
http://cook.slitaz.org/next/gcc/browse/taz/gcc-6.3.0/fs/usr/lib/libatomic.so.1.2.0

http://hg.slitaz.org/wok-next/rev/760518182338
http://hg.slitaz.org/wok-next/rev/b21fe9fb3791
http://hg.slitaz.org/wok-next/rev/624992409fdb

qtwebkit-5.212.0-alpha2

/bin/sh: QtTestBrowser: not found
libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile
Segmentation fault

qtwebkit - qt5

DEPENDS="qt5 sqlite3 hyphen libxslt" # gstreamer1 gst1-plugins-base
qt5-location qt5-sensors qt5-webchannel

http://hg.slitaz.org/wok-next/rev/41f56649ce60

tput command support

# hackdorte @ Mon, 25 Sep 2017 15:28:52 UTC link

Hi guys.

How can I get access to the "tput" command in SliTaz?

What to install?

# Bellard @ Mon, 25 Sep 2017 16:15:40 UTC link

According to http://pkgs.slitaz.org/?file=bin/tput

# tazpkg get-install ncursesw-extra

# hackdorte @ Mon, 25 Sep 2017 17:45:23 UTC link

Thank you.

how to transfer file from android cellphone to slitaz linux pc 5.0

# Malisa @ Tue, 26 Sep 2017 15:01:35 UTC link

Hi,
i know a trick to do it, i use xender app for pc, and tranfer all files fast.
http://smartwoop.com/xender-for-pc/

Error to start xfce session on Slitaz 5

# tommyMX @ Wed, 27 Sep 2017 03:11:44 UTC link

Hi i need help, to load the xfce desktop on slitaz 5

i installed the necesary packages, but i cant load xfce at the login screen after pressing f1 key and select xfce

this message appears

Failed to execute login command

what can i do? y really want xfce on my slitaz

# lm2 @ Wed, 27 Sep 2017 19:15:36 UTC link

just have a look on this :
http://slitaz.free.fr/index.php?post/2017/08/21/Slitaz-%3A-Failed-to-execute-login-commande-Resolution-Fix-it

2 new updates: get-palemoon 27.5.0 + tor 0.3.1.7

# Erkan_Yilmaz @ Wed, 27 Sep 2017 20:30:55 UTC link

Two new updates for:
* get-palemoon - change from 27.4.2 to 27.5.0 (Sep 26)
* tor - change from 0.3.0.10 (2017-08-02) to 0.3.1.7 (2017-09-18)

tested in rolling ISO (from Sep 25):
* can start the new palemoon from menu
* used tor in above palemoon on check.torproject.org + it verifies as tor being used

# Erkan_Yilmaz @ Wed, 27 Sep 2017 21:13:01 UTC link

also updated packages:

* openssl
* openssl-dev
* libcrypto and
* libcrypto-dev

from: 1.0.2k [26 Jan 2017]
to: 1.0.2l [25 May 2017]

changes on website are declared as:

* "Have 'config' recognise 64-bit mingw and choose 'mingw64' as the target platform rather than 'mingw'."

https://www.openssl.org/news/cl102.txt

---
Version 1.1.0 will be supported until 2018-08-31.
Version 1.0.2 will be supported until 2019-12-31 (LTS)

# az_ua @ Sat, 30 Sep 2017 16:51:22 UTC link

"w" in "mingw" means "windows"

Why not use https for slitaz sites/repos/mirrors/... ?

# Erkan_Yilmaz @ Wed, 27 Sep 2017 21:27:42 UTC link

e.g. via:
* "Let’s Encrypt is a free, automated, and open Certificate Authority."

https://letsencrypt.org

reasons:
* more secure than http (nothing is perfect, I know)
** who knows what the NSA (or your local intelligence agency) gives you for slitaz packages than the original ones :-(
* gives better impression to newcomers

# Bellard @ Wed, 27 Sep 2017 21:47:31 UTC link

It will give false sense of security.

SliTaz is open to developer. Most have a user account and some have a root access.
These people met on the Internet. They are trusted.

It will be easy to steal certificates to build a mirror fake server or to upload dirty packages.

vivaldi browser: not startable (GLIBC 2.17/2.18 + gtk3 missing)

# Erkan_Yilmaz @ Wed, 27 Sep 2017 23:45:17 UTC link

1. get-vivaldi gets the: vivaldi-stable-1.12.955.36-1.i386.rpm

2. when I start vivaldi later, I get:

error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-3.so.0

which can be solved by installing: gtk+3

3. as mentioned here: (A), I get 3 lines referring to GLIBC 2.17 (2x) + 2.18 (1x)

(A) http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/when-glibc-will-be-updated

# Duprate @ Thu, 28 Sep 2017 03:16:36 UTC link

Hello! I also tried installing Vivaldi ... It did not work!
In my opinion, being Slitaz 64 bits, the corresponding Vivaldi should be installed. Sites like Netflix only accept official browsers, updated and 64-bits! It would be a great step for the future of Slitaz and Vivaldi is proving to be an excellent browser ... Unfortunately, I do not have a suggestion to resolve this issue. I'm new to Slitaz.

# Erkan_Yilmaz @ Thu, 28 Sep 2017 08:19:25 UTC link

For me, midori and palemoon are sufficient.

I was just checking with above on a reported issue (so people in future can find it via search).

Besides the above dependencies, vivaldi also required:
bash
libcups
libexif
GConf
nss
mesa

# Duprate @ Sat, 30 Sep 2017 01:34:54 UTC link

I was very specific in suggesting the inclusion of the Vivaldi 64-bit browser in the SliTaz package repository. Following the development line of SliTaz 5.0, it would suffice to include Firefox 64 bits in the repository.

Firefox 32-bit works great! Updated to the latest version (56.0), just does not display Netflix videos. It was also necessary to install the pulseaudio package.

Mistake on the partition Nb into which grub was install vs partition Nb of / and home

# Nabuchodonosor @ Thu, 28 Sep 2017 19:52:46 UTC link

Bonsoir.
I have an HD on which I want to install Slitaz 4.0 on partiton sda16 for / and sda17 for home.
I install through tazpanel.
The installation report is good on all point and display : grub is installed on sda6.
Whouh !
Does installation process unsopport the 2 digits partition number ?
Is there some guy who has experimented such mistake and how could I make it correct ?
I don't see any previous question on this topic.
Thanks
Martin

# Aleksej @ Fri, 29 Sep 2017 04:59:01 UTC link

Hi Martin,

I see nothing wrong in the tazinst. Isn't it use UUID to determine the disks?..

Please provide the output of the command:

parted -lms

(root permissions are not required). Maybe this will push me to a some decision.

# Nabuchodonosor @ Fri, 29 Sep 2017 15:09:14 UTC link

Hi Aleksej, thanks for your answer.

Here is the résult of the parted command.

root@slitaz:~# parted -lms
Warning: Unable to open /dev/hda read-write (Read-only file system). /dev/hda has been opened read-only.
Error: /dev/hda: unrecognised disk label
BYT;
/dev/hda:36,4MB:ide:2048:2048:unknown:HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8163B;

BYT;
/dev/sda:1000GB:scsi:512:512:msdos:ATA ST31000528AS;
1:512B:12,9GB:12,9GB:linux-swap(v1)::;
4:12,9GB:1000GB:987GB:::;
49:12,9GB:19,3GB:6447MB:ext4::;
5:19,3GB:40,8GB:21,5GB:ext2::;
6:40,8GB:41,4GB:543MB:ext2::;
7:41,4GB:44,6GB:3224MB:ext2::;
8:44,6GB:55,3GB:10,7GB:ext2::;
9:55,3GB:56,4GB:1078MB:ext2::;
10:56,4GB:62,8GB:6449MB:ext2::;
11:62,8GB:84,3GB:21,5GB:ext2::;
12:84,3GB:84,9GB:543MB:ext2::;
13:84,9GB:88,1GB:3224MB:ext2::;
14:88,1GB:98,8GB:10,7GB:ext2::;
15:98,8GB:99,9GB:1078MB:ext2::;
16:99,9GB:106GB:6449MB:ext4::boot;
17:106GB:128GB:21,5GB:ext4::;
18:128GB:128GB:543MB:ext2::;
19:128GB:132GB:3224MB:ext2::;
20:132GB:142GB:10,7GB:ext2::;
21:142GB:143GB:1078MB:ext2::;
22:143GB:150GB:6449MB:ext2::;
23:150GB:171GB:21,5GB:ext2::;
24:171GB:172GB:543MB:ext2::;
25:172GB:175GB:3224MB:ext2::;
26:175GB:186GB:10,7GB:ext2::;
27:186GB:187GB:1078MB:ext2::;
28:187GB:193GB:6449MB:ext2::;
29:193GB:215GB:21,5GB:ext2::;
30:215GB:215GB:543MB:ext2::;
31:215GB:219GB:3224MB:ext2::;
32:219GB:229GB:10,7GB:ext2::;
33:229GB:230GB:1078MB:ext2::;
34:230GB:237GB:6449MB:ext2::;
35:237GB:258GB:21,5GB:ext2::;
36:258GB:259GB:543MB:ext2::;
37:259GB:262GB:3224MB:ext2::;
38:262GB:273GB:10,7GB:ext2::;
39:273GB:274GB:1078MB:ext2::;
40:274GB:280GB:6449MB:ext2::;
41:280GB:302GB:21,5GB:ext2::;
42:302GB:302GB:543MB:ext2::;
43:302GB:306GB:3224MB:ext2::;
44:306GB:316GB:10,7GB:ext2::;
45:316GB:317GB:1078MB:ext2::;
46:317GB:545GB:228GB:fat32::;
47:545GB:773GB:228GB:fat32::;
48:773GB:1000GB:227GB:fat32::;

root@slitaz:~#

Actually, the HD does not go at the end of the boot sequence. It displays "Grub" and that's it.

Martin

# Aleksej @ Fri, 29 Sep 2017 22:11:28 UTC link

Hi Martin,

At least I see that partitions numbers are not sequential :)
1, 4, 49, 5...

At least in this function inside tazinst partition number is just incremented (line 965).

I tried to touch tazinst as minimal as possible to not broke anything in it. Problem is too big for me, sorry.
In other hand, seems like Pascal found the solution. Please see the recent commits into the tazinst. Consider to update to the version 90 tazinst and tazinst-gui.

# Nabuchodonosor @ Sat, 30 Sep 2017 11:21:24 UTC link

Hi Aleksej,
Thanks for your answer.
I will try to upgrade the tazinst version

# Nabuchodonosor @ Sat, 30 Sep 2017 15:28:49 UTC link

So.
I have boot on a 5.0 live CD, vmlinux-3.2.53-slitaz.
I update tazinst and tazinst-gui

root@slitaz:~$ tazpkg -i *.tazpkg --forced

Installation de: tazinst
================================================================================
Copie de tazinst... [ Fait ]
Extraction de tazinst... [ Fait ]
Installation de tazinst... [ Fait ]
Suppression des fichiers temporaires... [ Fait ]
================================================================================
tazinst (86) est installé.

root@slitaz:~$ tazpkg -i tazinst-gui-89.tazpkg --forced

Ne peut trouver: /root/tazinst-gui-89.tazpkg

root@slitaz:~$ tazpkg -i tazinst-gui-86.tazpkg --forced

Installation de: tazinst-gui
================================================================================
Copie de tazinst-gui... [ Fait ]
Extraction de tazinst-gui... [ Fait ]
Installation de tazinst-gui... [ Fait ]
Suppression des fichiers temporaires... [ Fait ]
================================================================================
tazinst-gui (86) est installé.

But, only those pkg not there dependances :-((

The running version is : root@slitaz:~$ tazinst -help
Installeur SliTaz GNU/Linux - Version : %s

root@slitaz:~$ tazinst -help
Installeur SliTaz GNU/Linux - Version : %s

After this installation, I don't get any more in the application menu, taz install and, even, trough tazpanel I don't have the package option. So I manage to install those 2 packages with command lines.

3 tazpkg -i *.tazpkg --forced
5 tazpkg -i tazinst-gui-86.tazpkg --forced

And then I run "tazinst install tazinst.conf" from which the result is :

root@slitaz:~$ tazinst install tazinst.conf
Installeur SliTaz GNU/Linux - Version : %s

'%s' : Commande inconnue !
Lance : '%s' pour avoir la liste de commandes disponibles.

So the only doubt I get is about the incoherence between my new tazinst modules and the other that I have not update.

Thanks

Martin

# Aleksej @ Sat, 30 Sep 2017 15:49:01 UTC link

Sorry!
I wasn't teach you how to install updated packages :-|

  1. There's a server which builds all the new packages for SliTaz. You can communicate with it using the address http://cook.slitaz.org/
  2. There's main mirror server available at http://mirror1.slitaz.org/
  3. There's default mirror http://mirror.slitaz.org/
  4. Other mirrors are available as well.

The process is the next. Server #1 makes the package.

Then once a day (late night) it transfer all the new packages to the #2 server. At this point all these packages are available to you if you set "... mirror1 ..." as your TazPkg mirror.

Then other mirrors #3 and #4 will download new packages from the main mirror #2 (plus 0.5-2 days).

The fact version 86 is only available for you tells me that you did not update packages list (command tazpkg recharge as root) or your preferred mirror still missed this updates.

But you can download new package directly from the server #1.
I gave you links. There you can press "Download" to download the package. Once package downloaded, you can double-click it to install it into your system (you need to enter root password and press "Install" button on the next window).

Good luck. Hope you'll update these packages to the 90 version without problems.

And links again for your convenience: tazinst and tazinst-gui.

# az_ua @ Sat, 30 Sep 2017 16:47:14 UTC link

> I have boot on a 5.0 live CD, vmlinux-3.2.53-slitaz

> 3.2.53

Do not use such old live CD ISOs.

# Nabuchodonosor @ Tue, 03 Oct 2017 11:51:46 UTC link

Hi guys, thanks to all of you.
I quite understand the remark of az_ua so I manage to make a bootable USB with the newest, but not a prototype, version and I download the 5 RC 3, vmlinuz-3.2.71-slitaz. However, it's still a version before 2016 so, I experiment the C32 pb.
The post http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/c32box#post-41135 give the solution with

unlzma < c32box.c32 > c32box.c32.big ; mv -f c32box.c32.big c32box.c32 pb

The installation is quite good.
I am surpris because, as I was thinking the inverse, the installation does not scratch my USB stick but create a directory boot and home.
At this time, I install it from this version to my hard disk and it's worked.

Quite perfect. I have to tune my installation. Typicelly, the langage and the keyboard configuration are not saved.
It remain a problem that I need to explain to you.

The dmesg log tells :

EXT3-fs (sda16): error: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (240)
EXT4-fs (sda16): couldn't mount as ext2 due to feature incompatibilities
EXT4-fs (sda16): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
VFS: Mounted root (ext4 filesystem) readonly on device 259:0.

I upload my fstab.

Consequently, I do not get, either when I log in as root, the write rights on /.

What do you think about.

Martin

very bad with terrible consequences for the environment

# Timmi @ Sun, 01 Oct 2017 20:46:28 UTC link

oh such drama!

not the place for this.

Pentium III runs way too slow? - meets requirements, sys-report

# Timmi @ Sun, 01 Oct 2017 20:57:14 UTC link

I understand this is an old post, and you've probably ditched that PC.
But I am replying for some with old motherboards who may stumble upon this.

COMPATIBILITY MODE:
Older Pentiums (even 486 and 386), had a compatibility mode.
Some allowed to revert back to a 6MHz 2 wait-state mode, for compatibility with the old 80286, for some IBM software or antiquated games that may have been timing-sensitive.

Make sure that you know your hotkey sequence - however, come to think of it, that wouldn't work in Linux because it doesn't trap that...
Check in your BIOS, and see if you can force the speed anywhere... and if there is any mention of "compatibility mode" or something of another name but similar purpose. And see if there is a setting to prevent it from using that mode, from reverting to it.

HARDWARE (RAM) TIMING ISSUES:
You may also have a memory chip mismatch. Even two chips that are rated the same speed (-60 for 60ns, for example), but from different manufacturers, will run into timing issues, and force the hardware to revert to a slower speed.
For this reason, use only memory chips that are from the SAME manufacturer (for example, Toshiba).

# Timmi @ Sun, 01 Oct 2017 21:02:44 UTC link

ps: also, if it is already set to zero wait states and not working, try 1 wait state.
But if you have pieced together RAM from 2 different computers (or added from a memory card), you may already have your cause.
And if you have a memory expansion with a memory card, know that ISA expansion slots are 16bits and run at 8MHz + 1 wait state (and slower in old IBM 286 6Mhz). If you have a memory card that expands from what is on the motherboard directly, remove it. And then try the OS again. Even if it means with less memory.

Select connection from WiFi list does a rescan instead of prompting for password

# Timmi @ Sun, 01 Oct 2017 21:14:23 UTC link

I apologize guys, I never got a notification that there were replies.
(the box is checked) I will look into your recommendations and try again.

btw, it's an ATHLON N280
(not a Celeron as I initially wrote - I had seen some specs on the net that were erroneous)

BTW, at first try, ethernet worked (and I made a post elsewhere about no sound on youtube). Then I tried WiFi and posted this thread.
But after I tried to switch back to Ethernet, Ethernet would not work, it refused to connect again, and WiFi would no longer activate eiter. Neither worked after that.

Wired and wireless both stop working day after fresh install.

# Timmi @ Sun, 01 Oct 2017 21:19:03 UTC link

I have had the same issue on a asus eeePC 1000he (that's with an Athlon N280 processor - I'll have to look up the wifi chip to see what it is)

But I ran mine LIVE.
It would connect to ethernet out of the box.
Then, when I tried to switch to WiFi and connect, I could select the SSID, make sure things are set to WPA, but it would not ask me for a password - it would skip that.
When I switched back to Ethernet, browser would no longer load pages.
It seemed like everything connectivity-related would just stop.

# Timmi @ Sun, 01 Oct 2017 21:21:04 UTC link

ps: I presume that in 2017 this bug that was referred to 1 year ago, is no longer present in the Live 10-in-1 iso download?

# Timmi @ Tue, 03 Oct 2017 00:23:04 UTC link

Would it be OK if I asked a really dumb question? OK, here goes:

How hard would it be, to replace whatever manages networking, with what is used in Mint, for example? (which works remarkably well). Would there be a significant memory/size penalty to the ISO? What would need to be replaced or pulled in? What are the larger implications?

mplayer derivate : mpv 0.8.2 on Slitaz-Next

# moulefrite @ Mon, 02 Oct 2017 20:36:50 UTC link

Hello,

I notice that Slitaz 5 have in its packages mpv 0.18 . On the other had, mpv on Slitaz-Next is 0.8.2 only and has too many outdated ".so" in usr/lib .. mplayer-cli works (only command line)
Also, i dont know why, but right-click on a video to open it with mplayer doesnt work .. eventhough , the command "mplayer path_to_my_file" works

I would like to have a gui for mplayer (gnome-mplayer, mpv , totem ?) to navigate in the video

thx

# kultex @ Mon, 02 Oct 2017 23:19:44 UTC link

slowly my friend - very early state - there are a lot of other things to do with more impotance.....

# moulefrite @ Tue, 03 Oct 2017 13:39:27 UTC link

ok, i understand , np :) .

I just think that Slitaz dev team should offer , beside the core flavor, a bigger flavor and take concern about the basic end-user needs as a goal. Dont forget that people use their linux laptop in 99% cases to go on Internet and wish that their browser can surf on 99% of websites.

By now, i can figure how to install an outdated Firefox (38) on an unofficial but newest version of Slitaz .. which is nothing less that the only version which support an not-that-old Intel ivy bridge without total system freeze ! (Youtube works .. Alleluhia, but not all other vids like on twitter, streamings ..etc ). The newbie should be better lucky to find out directly the right combinaison. Please, write a "compatibility requirements" notice next to each version of Slitaz. ( Slitaz 5 : Sandy Bridge maximum, can run flash but.. use comprehensive words )

Never forget that if a newbie test Slitaz, if he doesnt have something which works out of the box (or almost), theres' 99% of chances that he will just dumps it to bin. And that newbie lost, it's not impossible he would might been a potential Key-Master for the futur.

What is trivial is for you, nerds, is not for a newbie. And the nerd - the one who knows - is not necessarly right. Maybe the newbie is right to decide to not spend many hours trying to figure out how to configure this and that.. In french, we have a an expression for people who have difficulties to think global and be aware of the general needs : "nombriliste" , it means they spend to much time looking at their own belly-button. It doesn't mean that they are selfish , no ! It just means that they spend so much time focus on some particular problem , that they forget to see the big picture and the really final goal. Which is : make people use a free system in an open society (here, open = which doesnt spy you)

So sometimes, its a good idea to offer an un-perfect Slitaz with Firefox rather that a perfect Slitaz which offers only Leafpad . Its not a crime to give Z while keep working on A, B or C. Dont be too "perfectionist" or people will just be bored waiting and will just install something else.
Imagine that I waited so many years to finaly discover that the problem was that Slitaz 5 lastest releases were too old for my old Ivy-Bridge. I knew nothing about linux kernel versions :/ .. and no, it's not a crime.

The hardware today is very cheap and most people dont care to dumb the hardware that the very only Slitaz is able to run on. So even if you want to keep your hands dirty on real issues in the backoffice of the system , don't be ashamed to display glossy and fancy for the newcomers in the frontoffice.

Thoughs of a newbie,

# Aleksej @ Tue, 03 Oct 2017 14:23:10 UTC link

Hey man,

I make SliTaz development in my own free time, if you don't get it yet.

How d'you think? Do I personally want you something? And why if yes?

# moulefrite @ Tue, 03 Oct 2017 15:23:17 UTC link

yes, i knew that i what i said would be be taken wrong.. and i will explain why

Its not something i'm asking (it's more someting im wanting .. but whatever) . Its just the point of view of a newbie. By experience, in my own job, i lost time in many case on details that the customer dont even notice or even need (like for exemple, in the case of Slitaz, there's so many web browsers .. is it that important?) . Why do i waste time on some details in my job ? --> Because i want to make it perfect because i like what i do .. So it's sounds strange for me that the customer can put foward any comments given the fact i work hard on it (and in your case, you even do it for free ! so i can understand that all this can make you angry). So there's a cognitive dissonance between the user-only (us) and the dev-user (you) amplified with the long hours you work on the project, the fact the dialogue are on forum only and the big knowledge gap (what seems to me easy : ie, modify some .desktop or update some packages, might be harder for you as you see all the things behind)

Maybe im wrong, but i >>feel<< that , independently the quality of the code, Slitaz project has some difficulties to be pragmatic and to go straight to it's final purpose ; plus some almost religious constraints self-imposed like the famous iso size are forcing the devs to give credits to light web-browsers like midori just to avoid stable (but big) solutions like Firefox.. and now, Midori project is just dead. Time wasted. And there's also all the ideoligical aspect : ie, the flash-plugin .. the flash, so impure, its "haram" , so lets make a get-flash-plugin even if an army of noobs will ask for flash 100 times on the forum coz they don't figure out the get trick. Even if flash is proprietary and pollutes , its not armful and will not do things against the interests of the user, so why not put it directly in the ISO ? Same for winrar.

So this message is not an reproach , but more to point out (make remind) an psychological aspect of humans on their work.

Or its maybe just because i have nothing to do today , so dont blame to be so annoying xD

# Aleksej @ Tue, 03 Oct 2017 16:03:30 UTC link

I glad you understand it in some way.

I may spend my time in a different ways. But all these ways I can split on two simple classes:

  1. things that makes me happy directly: solve the problems and became a winner, for example;
  2. things that makes me happy indirectly: the work that I don't like, but that gives me money, as a first example.

Reading your words here:

In french, we have a an expression for people who have difficulties to think global and be aware of the general needs : "nombriliste" , it means they spend to much time looking at their own belly-button.

is a bit strange for me because my English is bad, and I know what is belly-button, but I don't know why someone need to look at it so much time.

Is I've made a terrible mistake spending my time in the SliTaz development? I liked it when it started few years ago... Solving the problems, making the new software packages, the lightest and speed distro on the Earth!..

And I see now that I need to distance myself more and more from public. Such dialogues don't make me happy in any way... The only boredom everywhere...

# HGT @ Tue, 03 Oct 2017 18:09:14 UTC link

@Aleksej

Please do not be discouraged. I think you did excellent work on SliTaz next. Considering the very early stage of the ISO, it works very well. Everyone who has ever developed some piece of software knows, that not all functions can be available in that stage.
I think Slitaz should adhere to KISS (keep it small and simple), because that is the only way to keep it fast and clear and the ISO small.
I appreciate very much, that the distribution contains lightweight products, that do their work with the least possible impact.
Whoever needs mightier tools may install them, when they are available.
Please continue your brilliant work.

# Aleksej @ Thu, 05 Oct 2017 17:02:26 UTC link

Thank you, Hans-Günter.

Unable to extract files with tar 1.26 is installed

# Ceel @ Mon, 02 Oct 2017 22:19:44 UTC link

tazpkg@sda5:~$ tar -xJf grub-2.02.tar.xz
tar (child): xz: Cannot exec: No such file or directory
tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
tar: Child returned status 2
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now

After
root@sda5:/home/tazpkg# tazpkg -r tar
and
root@sda5:/home/tazpkg# tazpkg -gi busybox --forced

root@sda5:/home/tazpkg# tar -xJf grub-2.02.tar.xz
root@sda5:/home/tazpkg#

but libvlc depends on tar...

Recharging the main repository is failing

# raj @ Tue, 03 Oct 2017 00:50:44 UTC link

Hello, I'm running Slitaz Rolling 2016 and I just booted and tried to recharge the Main Repository. (I tried several times, and I am connected to the internet). The messages I get from package manager in the recharging log are:

Checking ... Failed
Getting "bundle.tar.lzma" ... Failed
Recharging failed

How can I get the package manager to recharge successfully?
============================================================
Problem Solved:
I clicked on "Administration" button in package manager where it displays a list of mirrors.
I selected a new mirror site and everything is working now.
Sorry for the alarmist post.

# Aleksej @ Tue, 03 Oct 2017 14:31:53 UTC link

Please see also my notes on http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/slitaz-next-iso/page/3#post-45453

pratical way to find a missing module

# moulefrite @ Tue, 03 Oct 2017 14:01:17 UTC link

Hi there,

How can I find the package which contains the missing module(s)

___ Here below, what is the command to find libGL.so.1 in a package ?___

root@slitaz:/home/tux# vivaldi-stable %U
/bin/bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en_US.UTF-8)

(process:20080): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
Using the fallback 'C' locale.
Couldn't open libGL.so.1: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Thx

# Aleksej @ Tue, 03 Oct 2017 14:11:33 UTC link

Hi moulefrite,

tux@slitaz:~$ tazpkg help search-file

search-file, sf
===================================================================================
Search for a file among the files installed by the packages (search-file or -sf).
This command is very useful to find the full path to a file and determine if a
file is present on the system. Option --mirror allows to search for a file among
all the files available on the mirror.
 
  $ tazpkg search-file libnss
  $ tazpkg -sf /usr/share/fonts --mirror

And...

tux@slitaz:~$ tazpkg -sf --mirror libGL.so.1

Search result for file "libGL.so.1"
===================================================================================

Package mesa:
 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1
 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2.0
===================================================================================
2 files

Your package is mesa.

# moulefrite @ Tue, 03 Oct 2017 15:27:20 UTC link

thank you !

distorted sound on ZOTAC ZBOX CI323 with Intel soundcard

# HGT @ Tue, 03 Oct 2017 18:13:59 UTC link

In SliTaz next, alsaplayer produces excellent sound on my ZOTAC ZBOX CI323. I think the new kernel and its drivers will solve my problem, when SliTaz next will be released.

strange error with bash

# moulefrite @ Wed, 04 Oct 2017 11:26:26 UTC link

I was working on a script .. it was ok , i save it , reopen it few hours later.. bug .. very strange..
It seems i have issues with arrays

root@slitaz:/home/tux# Unix=('Debian' 'Red hat' 'Ubuntu' 'Suse' 'Fedora' 'UTS' 'OpenLinux')
sh: syntax error: unexpected "("

i check on Internet, i didnt found a straight answer. Can someone check on his own system ?

Kind regards,

# Bellard @ Wed, 04 Oct 2017 13:02:51 UTC link

Are you really using bash ?
Try:
$ echo $HISTFILE
somepath/.ash_history => ash
somepath/.bash_history => bash

# moulefrite @ Wed, 04 Oct 2017 20:54:31 UTC link

Hi Key Master,

might be ash

tux@slitaz:~$ echo $HISTFILE
/home/tux/.ash_history

Im on SliTaz-Next of Aleksey

Reinstalling Bash and responding Y to make it default shell ..doesnt change anything

# Bellard @ Wed, 04 Oct 2017 21:41:04 UTC link

Try again:
tux@slitaz:~$ bash
$ echo $HISTFILE

check your shell (should end with :/bin/bash)
$ grep slitaz /etc/password

then logout and login again

# moulefrite @ Wed, 04 Oct 2017 22:08:18 UTC link

Installation of package "bash"
================================================================================
The GNU bourne shell
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Copying package... [ Done ]
Extracting package... [ Done ]
Remember modified packages... [ Done ]
Installing package... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
Execute post-install commands... Do you want to set /bin/bash to default (y/N) ? : y

Setting /bin/bash as default shell for all users
Creating ~/.bashrc file for all users
[ Done ]
================================================================================
Package "bash" (4.4.12) is installed.

root@slitaz:/home/tux# bash
bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en_US.UTF-8)

root@slitaz:/home/tux # echo $HISTFILE
/root/.bash_history

# moulefrite @ Wed, 04 Oct 2017 22:24:51 UTC link

so i reset my keyboards and locale with "Slitaz Config Dialogs" , relogin my X session and now it works ..i have bash working.

Failed on boot, Failed при загрузке

# I-Jurij @ Wed, 04 Oct 2017 19:47:21 UTC link

after yesterday update:

$ cat  /var/log/boot.log | grep cmdline
Searching for early boot options...                                   /etc/init.d/rcS: line 236: cmdline_option: not found
/etc/init.d/rcS: line 236: cmdline_option: not found
/etc/init.d/rcS: line 236: cmdline_option: not found
Checking for SliTaz cmdline options...

/etc/init.d/rcS:
`# Parse cmdline args for earlier boot options. All other boot options
# are in /etc/init./bootopts.sh.
action 'Searching for early boot options...'
opt=$(cmdline_option modprobe); [ -n "$opt" ] && export MODPROBE='yes'
opt=$(cmdline_option config); [ -n "$opt" ] && export CONFIG="$opt"
opt=$(cmdline_option screen); [ -n "$opt" ] && export SCREEN="$opt"
status`
What config need update or modify?

# Aleksej @ Wed, 04 Oct 2017 23:14:09 UTC link

Hi Jurij,

Seems like you updated slitaz-boot-scripts package only. Please update your slitaz-base-files package too. Function "cmdline_option()" was provided in the slitaz-base-files-331.

# I-Jurij @ Thu, 05 Oct 2017 21:50:42 UTC link

Hi!
slitaz-base-files and other slitaz-* updated with --forced - nothing changed.
IN /etc/init.d/rcS is 3 option for early boot: config, modprobe, screen. But they are missing for kernel parameters in menu.lst. There can be a case in this?

# Aleksej @ Thu, 05 Oct 2017 23:01:53 UTC link

Hi Jurij,

Thank you for persistence!

New function "cmdline_option()" is in the new /etc/init.d/rc.functions file.
This new file is in the package.
But this file is not updated while installing the new package.
Why?
This file is not listed in $CONFIG_FILES, so it shouldn't be immutable. o_O

This weirdness solved with easy.
It turns that a decade ago, back in 2007, the lines were added to the package receipt:
http://hg.slitaz.org/wok/rev/52
It backup the whole /etc before the package installation, and then restore all the backed files after the package installation. So, it prevents any file in /etc to be updated, our file too.

It's only the 52th commit. That receipt not contains $CONFIG_FILES, and seems there were tazwok instead of cookutils.

These backup-restoring isn't actual anymore, and I removed them.
Please, grab the new package here: http://cook.slitaz.org/cooker.cgi?pkg=slitaz-base-files

# I-Jurij @ Fri, 06 Oct 2017 19:23:39 UTC link

Алексей, спасибо.
searching for early boot options Failed
Этот Failed просто заставляет лишний раз лезть в логи, конфиги и т.д., особенно, если первый раз заметил и начинаешь думать - а что же отвалится?

# Aleksej @ Fri, 06 Oct 2017 20:49:03 UTC link

И тебе спасибо. Я бы не заметил эту ошибку (очень давно обновляю один-два пакета из 4-5 сотен).

Вот. А этот Failed я вчера тоже исправил (или только думаю что исправил?):
http://hg.slitaz.org/slitaz-boot-scripts/rev/444
http://cook.slitaz.org/index.cgi?pkg=slitaz-boot-scripts

# I-Jurij @ Sat, 07 Oct 2017 09:20:09 UTC link

Ок. Jetzt alles in ordnung.

# Aleksej @ Sat, 07 Oct 2017 12:40:09 UTC link

Чудово :)

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# opiwadez @ Fri, 06 Oct 2017 21:59:46 UTC link

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Firefox 45 (last version with GTK2 before GTK3)

# moulefrite @ Sun, 08 Oct 2017 08:35:12 UTC link

Hi guys,

For Slitaz-Next is it possible to have a .tazpkg of Firefox 45 ? I try to do it, but its quite messy job ^^ . Also, i think its better to stay with Gtk2 for the moment

# kultex @ Sun, 08 Oct 2017 09:31:04 UTC link

it should be possible, to compile Firefox against GTK2

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/firefox-esr-gtk2/

the same with chromium:

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/chromium-gtk2/

in terms of security, it is always better to use the newest version of a browser, so I think, that it is at the moment better to use palemoon - you will find version 27.5 in ijuris tazpkg collection

http://linuxtheme.sytes.net/index.php?one=downloads&two=TazpkgApps&thre=%D0%A1%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%8C%D0%98%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%82#palemoon275

palemoon does not need gtk3 - see

http://hg.slitaz.org/wok-next/file/c2f1ad89f0c6/palemoon/receipt

another possibilty would be light - https://sourceforge.net/projects/lightfirefox/files/

but we dont have it and I dont know, if there is still developement

# moulefrite @ Sun, 08 Oct 2017 12:41:17 UTC link

--> they dont give the arch package directly ? have to compile ?

-----------------------------------------

--> that palemoon is only launchable with root ?

---------------------------------------------

--> light

i "tazpkg -c " the firefox-light 45

https://sourceforge.net/projects/lightfirefox/files/45/light-45.0.en-US.linux-x86_64.rpm/download

- Then i extracted the new .tazpkg

- There is a "/local" level in the tree after the /usr . I remove that level.

- and adapt that modication into : files.list and md5sum

- redirect the link found in /usr/bin in order it target the right file

- then i rebuild the .tazpkg (see here attached)

https://www.filedog.io/FlyingMolly

--> its seems ok, but then i have this strange output when i tried to launch "light"

tux@slitaz:~$ light
/usr/bin/light: line 1: ELF: not found
...
/usr/bin/light: line 5: syntax error: unexpected newline

# Aleksej @ Sun, 08 Oct 2017 16:52:31 UTC link

To moulefrite:
> light-45.0.en-US.linux-x86_64.rpm
> x86_64
I doubt you use 64 bit SliTaz.

# kultex @ Sun, 08 Oct 2017 21:02:42 UTC link

fresh install on next - you just have to start it via sakura or create a palemoon.desktop in /usr/share/applications

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# moulefrite @ Mon, 09 Oct 2017 11:43:51 UTC link

Aleksej, i don't understand .

Kultex, yes i know ;) .

Basicaly my problem with browsers now is that they all fail to read twitter's videos or having message like 'MIME type not found" even if flash is installed. Webm, h.264, flash , silverlight .. bla bla , plugins ... bla bla bla .. Plus, for some lastest Firefox versions, the need to have GTK3 + Pulseaudio .. etc .. whatever. I dont understand why Internet is turning into such a technology garbage deposit today.

I dont want to make it sound like a request again ^^ but it might be wonderfull that Slitaz devs make a tazpkg with all the stuff to fix all the compatibily issues between the elected browser (ie : Firefox , Palemoon or Vivaldi) and an everyday use of Internet. Vivaldi works fine with all ?

# Aleksej @ Mon, 09 Oct 2017 12:03:43 UTC link

you downloaded a 64-bit package. slitaz is a 32-bit system. applications designed to run on a 64-bit system will not work on a 32-bit system.

# moulefrite @ Mon, 09 Oct 2017 13:58:08 UTC link

haha, i get it. I though Slitaz was 64bit since some time now :/

# moulefrite @ Mon, 09 Oct 2017 17:01:56 UTC link

Here is firefox-light-42.tazpkg :) (the file will expire in 1 month)

https://www.filedog.io/PromptBoxer

(newest version which doenst requires GTK+3) . Everything seems fine but maybe a master can check it out. Just weird messagebox when i launch from the menu .. "Your Light profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible."

Also, i just hope that i will figure out how we could make it very compatible will all the streaming formats

Vivaldi is a good option ?

# kultex @ Mon, 09 Oct 2017 18:25:13 UTC link

sorry - what do you want - I thought you want a browser with gtk2

vivaldi needs gtk3

and the rest is a configuration question of your browser plugins

as far as I know - I dont watch videos - the combination of vlc-video-plugin with palemoon works normaly best. But you have to experiment - there are Firefox plugins, who work in Palemoon too.....

In my experience, some video-streems are just made like this, that you cannot play them with linux - even with Ubuntu you cannot play them....

# moulefrite @ Mon, 09 Oct 2017 19:11:49 UTC link

No, no Vivaldi if it requires GTK+3 (this requires python and perl and much).

I just have concern to get a light browser to keep the ISO not too big. Polemoon is nice, but i dont see its advantage on Firefox 38

The Firefox-light, here above, is a quite small package but cant read youtube (need html5 or some other stuff). We never really know how to make it works nor know how to get those extra plugins ..

Vlc is nice but its heavy, maybe mplayer with Firefox-light might be more suited for small iso.

Seems they want to bring us all on Win10 + Chrome

PS : the video player built in tazweb wort well in Slitaz5. What is missing in S-Next to make it work again ?

# kultex @ Mon, 09 Oct 2017 20:29:07 UTC link

thats the gecko-mediaplayer plugin

https://community.linuxmint.com/software/view/gecko-mediaplayer

the lightest browser seems to be Opera, but I think Opera needs also GTK3....

so lightwight system + full video support seems to be a contradiction....

and if you would read slitaz next iso thread carefully, you know whats missing for tazweb - webkit-gtk, but I think webkit now need also gtk3

https://trac.webkit.org/wiki/WebKitGTK/Dependencies

so lightwight now leads more to the direction lxqt......

EDIT: gecko-mediaplayer seems to work also with palemoon....

# moulefrite @ Tue, 10 Oct 2017 12:43:30 UTC link

thank you,

after making some tests, i see that palemoon is not more efficient at all in comparison with Firefox 38; it's pretty the same. But , with videos on Internet and both with gecko-mediaplayer, palemoon seems to use up to 2x more CPU .. can you check ?

NB : its Firefox 43 and not Firefox 45 the latest version using GTK+ . So Firefox 44 is the first version using GTK+3. Its a pitty as it seems (according release notes) it was the version coming with all the video-capable upgrades

Installing VirtualBox Guest Additions in Slitaz 5.0

# gdesilva @ Sun, 08 Oct 2017 12:13:28 UTC link

Hi, I am trying to install Slitaz 5 (rolling) as the guest OS on Mint 18.2 Host running VirtualBox 5.0.40 with extension pack and guest additions iso.

Followed pipein's instructions and the modules are compiled without any errors whatsoever.

However, when I boot the system the vboxvideo module fails to load with the error message 'ERROR: modprobe Could not insert vboxvideo - invalid argument'

No problems with loading vboxguest or vboxsf modules.

Any suggestions to fix this?

Thanks

# Zann @ Sun, 08 Oct 2017 22:53:52 UTC link

Hi gdesilva,

Did you see this thread: http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/problem-installing-virtualbox-guest-additions-error-could-not-insert-vboxvideo-invalid-argumen ?

-Z.

# gdesilva @ Mon, 09 Oct 2017 03:48:24 UTC link

@Zann, thanks so much for the link - I have not seen it before. As you mentioned, nothing seems to be broken although modprobe vboxvideo throws out that error message.

Thanks again.

German translations in slitaz-tools-boxes

# kubepc @ Mon, 09 Oct 2017 16:44:06 UTC link

Hi,
I would appreciate to see some German translations in slitaz-tools-boxes.
tazbox-locale.desktop Name[de]=Sprache
tazbox-tz.desktop Name[de]=Zeitzone
tazbox-keymap.desktop Name[de]=Tastaturbelegung
tazbox-manage_i18n.desktop Name[de]=Sprachpakete
tazbox-tazapps.desktop Name[de]=Standard-Anwendungen
passwd.desktop Name[de]=Benutzerkennwort
burn-box.desktop Name[de]=Brennen CD/DVD
burn-iso.desktop Name[de]=Brennen ISO-Abbilder

# Bellard @ Mon, 09 Oct 2017 17:10:41 UTC link

Pushed: http://hg.slitaz.org/slitaz-tools/rev/abd95e8a8eeb
Thanks.

Configurar las X en una i815 (SliTaz 4.0)

# tazaymedia @ Thu, 12 Oct 2017 14:13:41 UTC link

He instalado SliTaz 4.0 en un viejo portátil que tiene una tarjeta de vídeo Intel 815EM. He editado el archivo /etc/X11/xorg.conf siguiendo (y adaptando ligeramente) estas instrucciones:

http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:xorg-xvesa#configuring-x

Mi archivo /etc/X11/xorg.conf ha quedado así:

# You can put here your own Xorg configurations. This config file is read
# before all files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d and will NOT be erased by any
# updates.
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
HorizSync 28-64
VertRefresh 60
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
EndSection
Section "Files"
ModulePath "/usr/lib/X11/modules"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/TTF/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/OTF"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-dejavu"
EndSection

Pero el caso es que, cuando reinicio, nada ha cambiado. Parece como si el sistema no llegara a leer la nueva configuración del archivo /etc/X11/xorg.conf. ¿Alguien me puede dar alguna idea?

Saludos y muchas gracias!!

# Robertux @ Thu, 26 Oct 2017 06:27:45 UTC link

Hola y disculpas por la tardanza, pero recién leo tu post.

La versión de xorg en slitaz 4 se configura en el directorio /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/

Busca en el archivo 60-devirce.conf la línea qie dice vesa y pon en su lugar intel

Saludos !

# tazaymedia @ Fri, 27 Oct 2017 17:02:35 UTC link

Hola y gracias por la atención @Robertux!

En mi archivo /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/60-Device.conf ya pone "intel":

$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/60-Device.conf:
Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz",
### <percent>: "<f>%"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "AccelMethod" # [<str>]
#Option "DRI" # [<bool>]
#Option "ColorKey" # <i>
#Option "VideoKey" # <i>
#Option "FallbackDebug" # [<bool>]
#Option "Tiling" # [<bool>]
#Option "LinearFramebuffer" # [<bool>]
#Option "Shadow" # [<bool>]
#Option "SwapbuffersWait" # [<bool>]
#Option "XvMC" # [<bool>]
#Option "XvPreferOverlay" # [<bool>]
#Option "DebugFlushBatches" # [<bool>]
#Option "DebugFlushCaches" # [<bool>]
#Option "DebugWait" # [<bool>]
#Option "HotPlug" # [<bool>]
#Option "RelaxedFencing" # [<bool>]
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "intel"
BusID "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection

http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/configuring-x-on-i815-slitaz-40

Saludos!

# tazaymedia @ Sat, 28 Oct 2017 17:30:44 UTC link

Finalmente, he resuelto el problema gracias a la ayuda que me han dado en el foro en inglés. La cuestión era que, por algún motivo, SliTaz 4 no cargaba correctamente las configuraciones del archivo /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Lo he eliminado y en su lugar he creado los archivos /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/45-Monitor.conf y /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/65-Screen.conf, que el sistema lee con preferencia a los predefinidos /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-Monitor.conf y /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/70-Screen.conf respectivamente.

Problem with RT2800 usb driver

# goddeex @ Thu, 12 Oct 2017 14:38:30 UTC link

Hello,

I have a problem with RT2800 USB driver. My hardware is a 802.11n chipset from a ebay China item.

What happens is that at first if I copy a file from an other computer with either Samba or FTP, it starts to copy the data fastly in a few seconds (around 20 seconds at around 40 Mb/sec) and then it slows down very much to 250 Kb/sec. It is not a problem of signal quality as quality is 40/70.

When using another adapter (TP Link 802.11g PCI) there is no problem, the copy is pretty fast.
When using my RT2800 USB on another computer for example with Linux Lite, it works well.
The eartg is correctly connected on the USB bus.

I have to try to recompile a new kernel but unfortunately I have a problem with 64 bit compilation because the GCC provided has not the option to compile ASM in 64 bit. I will post a new message for that other problem. I think I have to recompile GCC in the wok, will see.

# goddeex @ Mon, 16 Oct 2017 23:06:08 UTC link

Hello, the problem was not coming from this wifi card but from another one an "Intel Centrino Advanced N6205" under another linux distro, Linux Lite (on the remote computer).

This problem appeared also under Windows on the bad computer.

I have to finish the diagnostic.

# goddeex @ Sun, 22 Oct 2017 18:24:11 UTC link

Hello, I think I have found the problem, I launched a BIOS update on the Dell PC with Intel N6205 wifi card. And now instead of 729 kbytes/s I get 3 Mbytes/sec (under Linux Lite).

But with Windows with the same config I get 6 Mbytes/sec. So the linux driver seams to be not so good. And the hardware not so reliable.

So I tried with a Ralink USB wifi adapter with RT2800 USB driver and I get 8 or 10 MBytes/sec !!
But the card has a wifi speed of 130 MBits instead of 300 Mbits. But however I have a bottleneck because the remote computer is connected via 100 MBits ethernet card. So it is not necessary for me to run it at 300 Mbits/sec.

So something is was wrong with the BIOS of the Dell PC. And something is wrong with the Linux Intel driver because it is not running at full speed. Strange. Tried "sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 150M fixed" but it did nothing. Also tried "sudo iwconfig power off". Did nothing either.

Problem with gcc when compiling linux kernel

# goddeex @ Thu, 12 Oct 2017 15:27:04 UTC link

Hello,

I have a problem with 64 bits Slitaz distribution (Rolling realease 5.0). The gcc provided with Slitaz can't compile a 64 bit Linux kernel.

If I input gcc -v I get "Target: i486-slitaz-linux"
If I input gcc -dumpspecs I get "asm --32" but not "--64"

I guess gcc can't compile for 64 bits target

The problem is that I can't find how to compile a 32 bits linux kernel, I don't find the option in "gcc menuconfig".

# mojo @ Thu, 12 Oct 2017 18:29:12 UTC link

Slitaz 5.0 rolling is a 32-bits distribution that offers a 64-bits kernel.
Notice there is no 64-bits repository, the tool-chain and all software is 32-bits.
To build the 64-bits kernel in 32-bits environment we use uclibc-cross-compiler-x86_64.

Reference: http://hg.slitaz.org/wok/file/3801a162aec8/linux/receipt

# goddeex @ Thu, 12 Oct 2017 23:33:15 UTC link

Hello,

I didn't know there was a readily available cross-compiler.

I was trying to configure and make gcc with binutils compiled for target "x86_64-i686-linux-gnu" from host target "i486-slitaz-linux".
To do this I took the gcc from the wok and modified the recipe but got binutils from the gnu website wich I compiled and installed in /usr/local. Same for gmp and the other dependencies.

Very interesting to do this.

# goddeex @ Fri, 13 Oct 2017 09:41:26 UTC link

Hello,

I have not finished but I think I understand a few things. If I make gcc with the "cook" utility I see that it compiles with "-m486" option. But if I input make directly in the source directory I can compile without the -m486 option.

So I guess the cook utility adds the "-m486" option which is not a good thing because it forbids to build for x86_64.

If cook didn't add the "-m486" when compiling we could build the entire wok in 64 bits once we have set up the gcc cross compiler ?

I will see just need a 64 bits kernel for the moment.

# goddeex @ Fri, 13 Oct 2017 09:43:12 UTC link

Hello,

I have not finished but I think I understand a few things. If I make gcc with the "cook" utility I see that it compiles with "-m486" option. But if I input make directly in the source directory I can compile without the -m486 option.

So I guess the cook utility adds the "-m486" option which is not a good thing because it forbids to build for x86_64.

If cook didn't add the "-m486" when compiling we could build the entire wok in 64 bits once we have set up the gcc cross compiler ?

I will see just need a 64 bits kernel for the moment.

# alanyih @ Wed, 18 Oct 2017 04:46:52 UTC link

Ref:

Cross compilation
http://doc.slitaz.org/en:cookbook:cross

slitaz-toolchain-x86_64
http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/slitaz-x86_64#post-43358

http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/slitaz-x86_64/page/3#post-44613

SD Card totally out of reach

# saoc @ Sat, 14 Oct 2017 02:06:49 UTC link

Hi there,
I burned Slitaz rolling in a CD recently and in general, I'm pretty happy with everything avaiable.
The only issue so far is one problem with my sd card, it is not recognized. I'm running the LiveCD now and I installed the linux-mmc package. I don't know if it is supposed to work without rebooting(nor I have the possibility to check with a LiveCD), but nothing happened.
Using dmesg | grep mmc I get:

sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray

Where sr0 is the cdrom. scsi3-mmc is not in /dev/ and I don't know what it is. After installing linux-mmc, I also tried modprobe mmc_block and repeated the search, but nothing is showing up.
The device works fine in debian, afaik, it is ext3(debian's dmesg output says that is builds ext3 as ext4, the disk utility there indicates ext3, thus, I think it is using this fs).

Edit: The output of lsmod | grep mmc, which I tried after reading http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:sdcard is

Module Size Used by
mmc_block 13711 0
mmc_core 51002 2 mmc_block,sdhci

Please, what else can I try to make this sd card work?

# Aleksej @ Sat, 14 Oct 2017 12:27:07 UTC link

Hi,

Probably I can not help. I only show like it looks when it works. Maybe it will help you a bit.

On my system:

Output of "lsmod" (I stripped it out by hands):

Module                  Size  Used by
mmc_block              13711  2
sdhci_pci               6663  0
sdhci                  15221  1 sdhci_pci
mmc_core               51002  2 sdhci,mmc_block

Descriptions of the modules (also stripped):

modinfo mmc_core
No description here.

modinfo mmc_block
description:    Multimedia Card (MMC) block device driver

modinfo sdhci
description:    Secure Digital Host Controller Interface core driver

modinfo sdhci_pci
description:    Secure Digital Host Controller Interface PCI driver

Searching of tazpkg packages that contained the kernel modules:

tazpkg -sf --mirror mmc_core.ko.xz

Results are:

mmc_core  -> linux
mmc_block -> linux-mmc
sdhci     -> linux-mmc
sdhci-pci -> linux-mmc

So, it turns, only "linux-mmc" package is used.

--------

Output of the listing of devices, touching the memory card:

fdisk -l

Device       Boot StartCHS    EndCHS        StartLBA     EndLBA    Sectors  Size Id Type
/dev/mmcblk0p1    0,2,6       964,4,4            131    3887103    3886973 1897M  6 FAT16
Disk /dev/sdb: 30 GB, 32015679488 bytes, 62530624 sectors
3892 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors/track
Units: cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

--------

Installing the "pciutils" package. It have good feature-rich command "lspci". On default SliTaz you can found "lspci" from the "busybox" package that not so "clever".

Output of "lspci -k": Show kernel drivers handling each device

08:05.2 SD Host controller: O2 Micro, Inc. Integrated MMC/SD Controller (rev 02)
	Subsystem: Dell Device 0273
	Kernel driver in use: sdhci-pci
08:05.3 Mass storage controller: O2 Micro, Inc. Integrated MS/xD Controller (rev 01)
	Subsystem: Dell Device 0273

--------

Output of "mount" command:

/dev/mmcblk0p1 on /media/59C4-14F4 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,uid=1000,
gid=1000,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,
showexec,utf8,flush,errors=remount-ro,uhelper=udisks2)

========

PS. I tried it just now on the clean Live CD system after installing the linux-mmc package. I tried to 'modprobe' the kernel modules one after another. Actually SD-card appeared after the 'modprobe sdhci_pci' command. I believe, on non-Live CD it will function without any manual modprobe.

# saoc @ Sat, 14 Oct 2017 15:38:52 UTC link

Hi Aleksej
I did an investigation based on your post. Maybe mmc_core does not work here.
How do I extract these rootfsx.gz files?

I'm not able to upload the files. I'll paste the process here.

####

Before installing linux-mmc:
Neither mmc nor any sdhci shows up after booting the LiveCD and
using 'lsmod'.

'modinfo mmc-core' yields:
filename: /lib/modules/3.2.71-slitaz/kernel/drivers/mmc/core/mmc_core.ko.xz
license: GPL
depends:
intree: Y
vermagic: 3.2.71-slitaz SMP mod_unload 386
parm: use_spi_crc:bool
parm: removable:MMC/SD cards are removable and may be removed during suspend(bool)

'modinfo' with mmc_block, sdhci, sdhci_pci are all not found.

tazpkg as tux results in error. Running 'tazpkg -sf --mirror mmc_core.ko.xz' as root
updated my copy of the repos db. Two packages where found:
/lib/modules/3.2.71-slitaz/kernel/drives/mmc/core/mmc_core.ko.xz
/lib/modules/3.2.71-slitaz64/kernel/drivers/mmc/core/mmc_core.ko.xz

'fdisk -l' only identifies /dev/sda, my HD.
Nothing like your post appears when I run mount.
dmesg does not identify sd card, as expected due to the problem.

Now, I'll install linux-mmc package.

Nothing shows up with lsmod. After using modprobe with mmc_core, mmc_block,
sdhci, sdhci_pci, all of these modules show up with lsmod.
dmesg does not respond to sd card insertion. sdhci appeared there
after I installed linux_mmc, but not as an answer to card insertion.
Now, I'll try modinfo.

modinfo mmc_core shows the same result as before.
Outputs are saved in the modinfo file. mmc_block and sdhci depends
on mmc_core, which it seems I already had. sdhci_pci depends on sdhci.
mount command does not show anything different. Is the problem here?

I'll install pciutils package. Done, now, 'lspci -k' command generates:
The output was disappointing, nothing related to mass storage controler,
mmc or sd card. The output will be saved as 'lspci_output'.

Now, I'll try to update mmc_core and see what happens.
I downloaded slitaz-4.0, extracted the .iso file and rootfs1.gz is not
compressed in gzip format!!
tar --lzma -xvf rootfs1.gz also does not work(I installed lzma and tar).

#### modinfo output

filename: /lib/modules/3.2.71-slitaz/kernel/drivers/mmc/card/mmc_block.ko.xz
description: Multimedia Card (MMC) block device driver
license: GPL
alias: mmc:block
depends: mmc_core
intree: Y
vermagic: 3.2.71-slitaz SMP mod_unload 386
parm: perdev_minors:Minors numbers to allocate per device (int)

filename: /lib/modules/3.2.71-slitaz/kernel/drivers/mmc/host/sdhci.ko.xz
license: GPL
description: Secure Digital Host Controller Interface core driver
author: Pierre Ossman <pierre@ossman.eu>
depends: mmc_core
intree: Y
vermagic: 3.2.71-slitaz SMP mod_unload 386
parm: debug_quirks:Force certain quirks. (uint)
parm: debug_quirks2:Force certain other quirks. (uint)

filename: /lib/modules/3.2.71-slitaz/kernel/drivers/mmc/host/sdhci-pci.ko.xz
license: GPL
description: Secure Digital Host Controller Interface PCI driver
author: Pierre Ossman <pierre@ossman.eu>
alias: pci:v*d*sv*sd*bc08sc05i*
alias: pci:v00001217d00008321sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v00001217d00008320sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v00001217d00008221sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v00001217d00008220sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v00001217d00008120sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v00008086d00000824sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v00008086d00000823sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v00008086d00000822sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v00008086d00000821sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v00008086d00000820sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v00008086d0000084Fsv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v00008086d00000808sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v00008086d00000807sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v00001106d000095D0sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v00001148d00008000sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v0000197Bd00002392sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v0000197Bd00002391sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v0000197Bd00002382sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v0000197Bd00002381sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v000011ABd00004101sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v00001524d00000751sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v00001524d00000750sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v00001524d00000551sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v00001524d00000550sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v00001180d0000E823sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v00001180d0000E822sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v00001180d00000843sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v00001180d00000822sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
depends: sdhci
intree: Y
vermagic: 3.2.71-slitaz SMP mod_unload 386

filename: /lib/modules/3.2.71-slitaz/kernel/drivers/mmc/core/mmc_core.ko.xz
license: GPL
depends:
intree: Y
vermagic: 3.2.71-slitaz SMP mod_unload 386
parm: use_spi_crc:bool
parm: removable:MMC/SD cards are removable and may be removed during suspend (bool)
###

# Aleksej @ Sat, 14 Oct 2017 16:38:25 UTC link

It looks like it need two simple steps:

tazpkg -gi linux-mmc
modprobe sdhci_pci

Have a nice day.

# saoc @ Sat, 14 Oct 2017 16:48:38 UTC link

Hi Aleksej, thanks for the help so far

I tried these commands but they failed. dmesg doesn't show anything different. It just doesn't see that I'm connecting the card over and over. I'll post the lspci -k output, there's no mention to sd or mmc. Should I add that it is a micro sd card?
Edit: Micro SD card with adapter, so, it should be identified as a SD card
###
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor DRAM Controller (rev 09)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 3977
Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 3977
Kernel driver in use: i915
00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB xHCI Host Controller (rev 04)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 3977
Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 3977
00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 04)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 3977
Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 3977
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev c4)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 2 (rev c4)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 04)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 3977
Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation HM76 Express Chipset LPC Controller (rev 04)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 3977
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series Chipset Family 6-port SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 04)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 3977
Kernel driver in use: ahci
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller (rev 04)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 3977
01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR8162 Fast Ethernet (rev 08)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 3979
02:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 30a1
Kernel driver in use: ath9k
###

# kultex @ Sun, 15 Oct 2017 21:37:56 UTC link

The kernel from rolling 3.2 is very old.... maybe that's the problem...

Try slitaz next.....

Package request: Python3

# Syn_thinnes-terin @ Sat, 14 Oct 2017 16:04:38 UTC link

Hello guys, I am quite new to Slitaz (installed it since almost a week), but I have learn more great things that I have never learn before from Windows.

Anyway, not trying to sound harsh, but the notable things that I have notice is Tazpkg not yet included Python3 (current version: 3.6.3), which so far Python currently available (version 2).

I have searched the entire internet, but not found any request for Python 3, plus I am not fully understand how to compile packages (documentation is quite helpful, but it's too technical for me to understand).

It would be great if people could include Python 3 on Tazpkg since I am currently learn to programming Python3. Peace :)

# az_ua @ Sat, 14 Oct 2017 16:36:38 UTC link

root@slitaz:~$ tazpkg -s py3

Search result for "py3"
==================================================================================================================================
Installed packages
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
==================================================================================================================================
0 installed packages found for "py3"

Available packages
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
py3k-3.4.3
py3k-dev-3.4.3
py3k3-3.3.6
py3k3-dev-3.3.6
==================================================================================================================================
4 available packages found for "py3"

# Syn_thinnes-terin @ Sat, 14 Oct 2017 17:22:47 UTC link

Hi az_ua, thanks for helping me! Glad you are here! Have a nice day and goodnight (it's night in my country :)).

# Syn_thinnes-terin @ Sat, 14 Oct 2017 17:30:23 UTC link

BTW, I just installed py3k, but when I tried to run it, it didn't run py3k. What should I do?

FYI, I also installed python (version 2). Is this also causing it not running at all?

Thanks. :)

# saoc @ Sat, 14 Oct 2017 22:53:13 UTC link

Try python3 at the terminal.

# Syn_thinnes-terin @ Sun, 15 Oct 2017 07:50:03 UTC link

Hi saoc, thanks for the reply. I have tried run python3 at the terminal. It open Python 3 interpreter successfully. I tried run IDLE3, but it can't. I wonder what should I do? I have two different Python installed, version 2 and 3.

Result I get when I tried run IDLE3:

succ@lenovox120e:~$ idle3
** IDLE can't support Tkinter.
Your Python may not be configured for Tk. **

Slitaz Rolling : Vídeo esticado verticalmente.

# boechat @ Sun, 15 Oct 2017 02:06:58 UTC link

Pessoal,
Estou com esse comportamento estranho no vídeo; qualquer resolução de tela que eu consigo colocar, o vídeo, aparentemente, fica esticado verticalmente.
Não sei nem por onde começar a verificar o problema.

Coloquei em anexo uma imagem para demonstrar, porque não consigo explicar.

Segue a informação sobre meu vídeo:
lspci -vnn | grep VGA
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN896/VN896/P4M900 [Chrome 9 HC] [1106:3371] (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])

Agradeço a ajuda desde já.

[attachment=45547,2589]

# az_ua @ Sun, 15 Oct 2017 02:14:14 UTC link

http://download.tuxfamily.org/slitaz/packages/undigest/xorg-xf86-video-openchrome-0.2.905.tazpkg

# boechat @ Sun, 15 Oct 2017 03:03:44 UTC link

Obrigado pela dica.
Faltaou uma dependência para o pacote sugerido; mesa-dri-unichrome.
Só o encontrei nos repositórios da versão 4.

Depois de instalado preciso realizar alguma configuração?

Something wrong on mirror1

# Ceel @ Sun, 15 Oct 2017 11:37:46 UTC link

Hi,

I had a look on http://mirror1.slitaz.org/iso/rolling/
Most of the ISO are dated 20171008 but .log and md5 files are 20171015.
??

# Syn_thinnes-terin @ Sun, 15 Oct 2017 12:22:26 UTC link

Hi Ceel,

From what I observed, .log file has stated that the cooking have a line (possibly coding) error in line 691 (if I am not mistaken), that it not stating expected 'then' (expected 'if'). Again, I don't sure this what I remembered 100%, but it seems that the problem has been fixed and latest rolling version is out (except loram due to same problem that not yet been address).

# Syn_thinnes-terin @ Mon, 16 Oct 2017 05:42:01 UTC link

Seems loram update it's ISO hour later. Problem fixed. :)

Configuring X on i815 (SliTaz 4.0)

# tazaymedia @ Mon, 16 Oct 2017 18:11:37 UTC link

Hi all!

I've asked in the Spanish forum, but nobody responds.

I've installed SliTaz 4.0 on an old laptop with an Intel 815EM video card. I've edited the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file following these instructions:

http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:xorg-xvesa#configuring-x

My /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is like this:

# You can put here your own Xorg configurations. This config file is read
# before all files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d and will NOT be erased by any
# updates.
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
HorizSync 28-64
VertRefresh 60
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
EndSection
Section "Files"
ModulePath "/usr/lib/X11/modules"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/TTF/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/OTF"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-dejavu"
EndSection

However, when I reboot, nothing has changed. The system doesn't seem to read the new video card configuration file. Any ideas??

Thank you very much!!

# gdesilva @ Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:30:10 UTC link

I presume you have already tried tazx (as root) to configure X? If not, it is worth a try. Also, you may want to install xorg-xf86-video-intel package if not done already.

# Syn_thinnes-terin @ Tue, 17 Oct 2017 09:08:44 UTC link

Hi tazaymedia, thanks for posting here! Welcome to SliTaz community!

BTW, seems this problem possibly caused by Xorg didn't recognized your video card, which is weird for me (just like what you say). I think to make it detect your video card, try this (also provided with picture to make it clear):

1. Open Application, open Run and type "pcmanfm", then type in the address: /etc/X11.
2. Open folder "xorg.conf.d".
3. Right-click on it and click "Open Folder As Root".
4. Type root password and click "OK".
5. You are now open folder as root (it should remind you that you are in super user mode).
6. Create a new file and name it "driver-intel.conf".
7. Copy and paste this code into the file:

Section "Device"
        Identifier "Card0"
        Driver     "intel"
        # BusID    "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

8. Save the file by using keyboard combination: Ctrl+S and close the file.
9. Restart your computer and see if it work for you. Don't forgot to reply back your result!

Picture for step-by-step (I can't post here due to size limit, so I post it on Imgur):
1. https://imgur.com/a/XUQEW
2. https://imgur.com/a/34aSo
3. https://imgur.com/F6RxCKX
4. https://imgur.com/a/aKnE2
5. https://imgur.com/a/iphem
6. https://imgur.com/a/STqgG
7. https://imgur.com/a/WrY8c
8. https://imgur.com/a/UZ76Y
9. https://imgur.com/a/hmA9T
10. https://imgur.com/a/w2tQk
11. https://imgur.com/a/gFLEd
12. https://imgur.com/a/MJVrU
13. https://imgur.com/a/nziZx

I used this website as my reference for helping you (note that the path are different since it's design for FreeBSD): https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x-config.html (Check at "Setting the Video Driver in a File" section), so I can't guarantee 100% that it will solve your problem, but why not give it a try? :)

# tazaymedia @ Sat, 21 Oct 2017 00:53:24 UTC link

Thank you both for your responses and hospitality! :-D

@gdesilva: I had already installed xorg-xf86-video-intel package. Today I've tried configuring X with tazx as root, but nothing changes. The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is the same, but somes files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ have been updated.

@Syn_thinnes-terin: I've followed all your instructions and I've created the driver-intel.conf file, but nothing changes. I'll read https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x-config.html.

Regards and happy weekend!

# Syn_thinnes-terin @ Sat, 21 Oct 2017 16:19:15 UTC link

No problem @tazaymedia. Glad I can help you even though it's not produce it yield yet. BTW, @gdesilva's instruction seems working a little bit for you. I need to make extensive research regard this and post it when I find the other potential solution.

Happy weekend too! :)

# rerivero @ Sun, 22 Oct 2017 11:56:15 UTC link

Hola tazaymedia, -apologies to friends who speak English-.

Tenés algúnos archivos dentro de /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ??

Mirá. te cuento mi experiencia con SliTaz 4 que es la que todavía uso, para poder configurar correctamente la resolución del monitor. la coloco en /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-Monitor.conf

como mi monitor es CRT la configuración es esta:

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "CRT-0"
HorizSync 28-64
VertRefresh 43-72
EndSection

# tazaymedia @ Sun, 22 Oct 2017 15:51:51 UTC link

@Syn_thinnes-terin: Thank you again! :-)

@rerivero: En mi caso, no se trata de un CRT, sino de la pantalla de un portátil, así que, por probar lo que dices, he editado mis archivos /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-Monitor.conf y /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/70-Screen.conf copiando en su interior el contenido de las secciones "Monitor" y "Screen" de mi archivo /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Resultado: al reiniciar la máquinca, las X no arrancan, apareciendo los errores "no screen found" y "display cannot open". Deduzco que tengo un problema en la subsección "Display" y quizá también en la sección "Screen" (ambas pueden verse en mi primer post). Sigo aprendiendo gracias a todos los consejos. Gracias! :-)

IN ENGLISH: Following @rerivero advices, I've copied "Monitor" and "Screen" sections from my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to my /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-Monitor.conf and /etc/X11/xorg.d/70-Screen.conf files. Result: after reboot, X don't work and two errors appears: "no screen found" and "display cannot open". Then I think I have a problem with "Display" subsection and maybe with "Screen" section too (both can be read on my first post). I'm still learning :-)

# rerivero @ Sun, 22 Oct 2017 15:58:56 UTC link

@tazaymedia, corre este comando en terminal y postea la salida

$ lspci -v | grep VGA

y si podes subi a pastebin el archivo /var/log/Xorg.0.log

# tazaymedia @ Mon, 23 Oct 2017 09:23:05 UTC link

$ lspci -v | grep VGA
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82815 Chipset Graphics Controller (CGC) (rev 11) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])

$ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
http://codepad.org/VpAASzUX

# LienRag @ Thu, 26 Oct 2017 19:59:06 UTC link

Some of your trouble looks like mine here: http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/xorgconf-deleted
But I'm not knowledgeeable enough to say if it may help...

# tazaymedia @ Fri, 27 Oct 2017 16:53:00 UTC link

Hi @LienRag!

I think my problem is very different, because I have Intel vcard and you Nvidia vcard, and I have SliTaz 4 and you Slitaz 5... Besides, I already run tazx and installed the appropiate driver for my vcard (xorg-xf86-video-intel). However, I don't have much knowledge either...

Thank you much anyway!

# mojo @ Fri, 27 Oct 2017 22:51:22 UTC link

@tazaymedia
On slitaz-4.0 the workaround is to put the custom configuration override in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
The custom configuration has a lower number prefix for preference over default and so it is not overwritten by tazx.

I used these custom configs to build a slitaz-4.0 live cd that would boot to a screen on an old 14" crt monitor.
To override default 50-Monitor.conf add custom configuration called 45-Monitor.conf

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
HorizSync 28-64
VertRefresh 60
EndSection

To override default 70-Screen.conf add custom config called 65-Screen.conf

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
EndSection

# tazaymedia @ Sat, 28 Oct 2017 17:23:05 UTC link

Solved!! :-DDD

Thank you very much @mojo!! That's the solution!!

I've created those files (/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/45-Monitor.conf and /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/65-Screen.conf) and, after reboot, the screen finally shows a perfect 1024x768 resolution and 24M of colours. For some reason, SliTaz 4 doesn't read the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, but the other 45* and 65* files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/.

Thanks also to all the others who have helped me!!

Member Introduction

# rafealsivar @ Wed, 18 Oct 2017 12:37:34 UTC link

Hi everyone,himself a member of the new forum foractive forums haven't known how so very looking forward to help from everyone.

# Syn_thinnes-terin @ Sat, 21 Oct 2017 18:13:23 UTC link

Hey @rafealsivar, welcome to our community! BTW, sorry to say, but your English seems confusing a little bit, but it still okay for me since I read it carefully. Hope you can improve your English to the decent level and we welcoming you with open arms. :)

Kernel Panic Slitaz Rolling after installation (USB Live)

# gzuszando @ Fri, 20 Oct 2017 19:52:58 UTC link

When using slitaz 4.0, I get the kernel panic error, in this case I configured the boot in menu.lst and I understand how the system works. In slitaz 5 RC1, RC2, RC3 and slitaz rolling (weekly), the same problem occurs, however, I can not resolve it in the same way as slitaz 4.0. I'm trying to install through a flash drive, am I doing something wrong? Does anyone have a recent tutorial on how to create a bootable USB key? I want to use the operating system to be installed in a classmate cm52c for a scientific article connected to PROUCA, the first remazterization I did was for distro lubuntu, I now wanted a much more elegant and compact operating system, and Slitaz rolling seems to be what I I need what I tested on USB-LIVE. I apologize for English, I could have posted this problem in the area of my language, but I see that it has little interaction.

# Ceel @ Fri, 20 Oct 2017 20:28:16 UTC link

am I doing something wrong?

What did you do... ?

If you can run SliTaz 4:

# gzuszando @ Sun, 22 Oct 2017 20:34:07 UTC link

I created USB LIVE as you showed it, even so after installing on hdd, it still gives the error "kernel panic - not suncing: VSF: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)"

PS: In the creation of USB LIVE said that it did not copy 2 files, it follows the attached image.

[attachment=45578,2595]

# gzuszando @ Sun, 22 Oct 2017 21:56:53 UTC link

I followed the steps in the installation guide following the steps in this site and the same error occurred: http://doc.slitaz.org/en:handbook:installation

With the same procedures, I have Slitaz 4.0 installed on the SD card. Already Slitaz rolling, it runs only via USB LIVE, but if installed on the SD card is the kernel panic.

# gzuszando @ Sun, 22 Oct 2017 22:58:17 UTC link

I was able to install and run Slitaz Rolling on a USB key. After hours, I tried to install an SD card, I decided to try the installation on a USB key and it worked. Are there different procedures for installing Slitaz Rolling on the SD card? The strange thing is that Slitaz 4 worked very well on the SD card.

# gzuszando @ Wed, 25 Oct 2017 14:53:11 UTC link

Unfortunately, I'm going to have to go to another operating system or even return to lubuntu because I could not install it on an SD card. I still appreciate the help.

# Ceel @ Wed, 25 Oct 2017 19:24:17 UTC link

Sorry for this :(

I encountered a problem when trying to install the RC1 / RC2 on an SD card (http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/slitaz-50-rc2/page/4#post-30519); not exactly the same as your. It seems to me it had been solved with RC3.
I will try again and let you know. But no possibility before this weekend (at best...)

# gzuszando @ Wed, 25 Oct 2017 20:13:40 UTC link

Thank you so much for answering me and trying to help me. I'm still testing other distributions, but I have not found anything as good as slitaz. I'll take a look at this topic to see if I can find anything that might be helping me.

# kultex @ Wed, 25 Oct 2017 20:43:08 UTC link

did you try this?

http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:sdcard

I never installed slitaz on the sd-card - I always use frugal install and that works nice on sd-card - with 5.0 and also next

# gzuszando @ Fri, 27 Oct 2017 01:08:56 UTC link

Using the tazpkg get-install linux-mmc command, can not find the package.

# gzuszando @ Fri, 27 Oct 2017 01:25:44 UTC link

It seems to be something relative to the kernel, I tested putting vmlinuz-2.6.37-slitaz and logged into the system. But a lot of problems like minor resolution and wi-fi do not work, probably due to the kernel.

# Ceel @ Sat, 28 Oct 2017 19:05:10 UTC link

Hi gzuszando

I installed SliTaz Rolling on an SD card and went in a kernel panic too; the SD card is not recognized by the kernel at boot. But no problem with a Live on SD card.
Comparing the output of lsmod from the LiveSD and a frugal install, I can see (in my case) that the module xhci_hcd is loaded much earlier with the LiveSD.
I've recompiled the kernel with xhci_hcd built-in and... it boots!
You can download this kernel here for 12 days.

Tell us if it works for you too. If yes, don't forget to block the linux package (tazpkg -b linux) to avoid it is overwritten later by an update.

# Bellard @ Sat, 28 Oct 2017 19:26:42 UTC link

Planned to next rolling: http://hg.slitaz.org/wok/rev/0b60d6515722

# gzuszando @ Sun, 29 Oct 2017 14:03:13 UTC link

The Kernel Panic problem is still persistent, I tried several times to see if I made a mistake, but I could not. With the vmlinuz-2.6.37-slitaz kernel, it keeps running, but it does not load any modules. = / ... Even so, I'm very happy for your help.

# kultex @ Sun, 29 Oct 2017 14:47:02 UTC link

try with the latest rolling iso from tonight.....

http://mirror1.slitaz.org/iso/rolling/

it should be already in the new iso, but not shure - http://cook.slitaz.org/ is down at the moment

# Ceel @ Sun, 29 Oct 2017 16:47:35 UTC link

@ gzuszando,

No chance... Your computer doesn't need the same module than my hardware.
If today's rolling doesn't work either, let's try a last thing?

First, post your menu.lst and pictures of your screen

Then, run SliTaz from a LiveSD and post the output of lsmod
Install SliTaz Rolling in frugal on the HD that runs SliTaz 4.0:

and run it without any SD card inserted; post the output of lsmod

# mojo @ Sun, 29 Oct 2017 17:39:38 UTC link

An iso with the reconfigured kernel will have a "Cookiso started:" date/time after
linux Cook date : 2017-10-29 09:37

This iso has the kernel with the old configuration:
http://mirror.slitaz.org/iso/rolling/slitaz-rolling.log
Cookiso started: 2017-10-29 00:54

http://cook.slitaz.org/index.cgi?pkg=linux
Cook date : 2017-10-29 09:37
Summary for: linux 3.2.71
================================================================================
Source dir : 1.1G
Src file : linux-3.2.71.tar.xz
Src size : 62.6M
Produced : 174.1M
Packed : 7.1M
Compressed : 5.8M
Files : 340
Cook time : 3617s ~ 60m
Cook date : 2017-10-29 09:37
Host arch : i486

# gzuszando @ Sun, 29 Oct 2017 18:22:13 UTC link

Menu.lst

# /boot/grub/menu.lst: GRUB boot loader configuration.

#

# By default, boot the first entry.

default 0

# Boot automatically after 8 secs.

timeout 8

# Graphical splash image.

splashimage=/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz

# Change the colors.

#color yellow/brown light-green/black

# For booting SliTaz from : /dev/sdb1

#
title SliTaz GNU/Linux 5.0 (Kernel vmlinuz-3.2.71-slitaz)

root (hd0,0)

kernel /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.71-slitaz root=/dev/sda1 video=-32 quiet rootdelay=10

# gzuszando @ Sun, 29 Oct 2017 18:22:57 UTC link

Lsmod SD Live

root@slitaz:/home/tux# lsmod

Module Size Used by

ipv6 178202 18

rt73usb 18497 0

rt2x00usb 6058 1 rt73usb

rt2x00lib 24247 2 rt2x00usb,rt73usb

mac80211 161510 2 rt2x00lib,rt2x00usb

i915 262896 2

cfg80211 117334 2 mac80211,rt2x00lib

i2c_algo_bit 3627 1 i915

drm_kms_helper 17504 1 i915

drm 118582 2 drm_kms_helper,i915

snd_hda_codec_realtek 134743 1

rfkill 10151 1 cfg80211

snd_hda_intel 17005 1

snd_hda_codec 45588 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_realtek

ums_realtek 3879 0

snd_hwdep 3811 1 snd_hda_codec

snd_pcm 42938 2 snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel

snd_page_alloc 4669 2 snd_pcm,snd_hda_intel

r8169 33728 0

snd_timer 12069 1 snd_pcm

snd 33686 8 snd_timer,snd_pcm,snd_hwdep,snd_hda_codec,snd_hd
a_intel,snd_hda_codec_realtek

i2c_core 12294 4 drm,drm_kms_helper,i2c_algo_bit,i915
intel_agp 7912 1 i915

intel_gtt 9087 3 intel_agp,i915

agpgart 17563 3 intel_gtt,intel_agp,drm

soundcore 3254 1 snd

video 9499 1 i915

button 3282 1 i915

# gzuszando @ Sun, 29 Oct 2017 18:24:28 UTC link

Screen kernel panic

[attachment=45661,2597] [attachment=45661,2598]

# gzuszando @ Sun, 29 Oct 2017 18:35:29 UTC link

the command

title SliTaz rolling core (frugal, kernel 3.2.71)
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.71-slitaz rw root=/dev/null rootdelay=10
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/rootfs.gz

did not start

I got this way

title SliTaz rolling core (frugal, kernel 3.2.71)
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.71-slitaz rw root=/dev/null rootdelay=10
initrd /boot/rootfs.gz

lsmod

Module Size Used by

rt73usb 18497 0

rt2x00usb 6058 1 rt73usb

rt2x00lib 24247 2 rt2x00usb,rt73usb

mac80211 161510 2 rt2x00lib,rt2x00usb

i915 262896 2

i2c_algo_bit 3627 1 i915
drm_kms_helper 17504 1 i915
ipv6 178202 15
drm 118582 2 drm_kms_helper,i915

snd_hda_codec_realtek 134743 1
cfg80211 117334 2 mac80211,rt2x00lib

snd_hda_intel 17005 1

snd_hda_codec 45588 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_realtek

snd_hwdep 3811 1 snd_hda_codec

snd_pcm 42938 2 snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel

snd_page_alloc 4669 2 snd_pcm,snd_hda_intel

snd_timer 12069 1 snd_pcm

intel_agp 7912 1 i915

ums_realtek 3879 0

rfkill 10151 1 cfg80211

snd 33686 8 snd_timer,snd_pcm,snd_hwdep,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_realtek

intel_gtt 9087 3 intel_agp,i915

agpgart 17563 3 intel_gtt,intel_agp,drm

r8169 33728 0

i2c_core 12294 4 drm,drm_kms_helper,i2c_algo_bit,i915

soundcore 3254 1 snd

video 9499 1 i915

button 3282 1 i915

# gzuszando @ Sun, 29 Oct 2017 18:38:39 UTC link

kultex and mojo

thanks, I will test.

# Ceel @ Sun, 29 Oct 2017 19:21:45 UTC link

@ gzuszando,

Your menu.lst

kernel /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.71-slitaz root=/dev/sda1 video=-32 quiet rootdelay=10

should be
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.71-slitaz root=/dev/sdb1 video=-32 quiet rootdelay=10
sda is the first HD for the kernel.

EDIT: and suppress temporarily the quiet instruction to have more informations displayed before the kernel panic.

# Ceel @ Sun, 29 Oct 2017 19:44:16 UTC link

And no difference in the outputs of lsmod.

If the LiveSD works, a full install should too.

# Ceel @ Wed, 01 Nov 2017 13:24:45 UTC link

I've updated the linux packages yesterday evening.
The full install on SD card boots correctly on my computer with the new kernel.

Thanks Bellard

# gzuszando @ Wed, 01 Nov 2017 13:53:33 UTC link

has kernel download?
[attachment=45678,2599]

# Ceel @ Wed, 01 Nov 2017 14:07:59 UTC link

Yes. The linux.tazpkg package installs the new kernel.

# gzuszando @ Wed, 01 Nov 2017 14:40:12 UTC link

I put the kernel 4.9.30 and started, but I was without wifi and with wrong resolution.

Modules do not load

[attachment=45680,2600]

# gzuszando @ Wed, 01 Nov 2017 15:19:17 UTC link

I noticed that with linux kernel 3.2.71 it is not possible to find the root.

# Ceel @ Wed, 01 Nov 2017 16:57:13 UTC link

kernel 4.9.30 is not compatible with modules and packages of rolling.

I noticed that with linux kernel 3.2.71 it is not possible to find the root.

`VFS: Cannot open root device "sda1" or unknown-block(0,0)<br />
Please append a correct "root=" boot option; here are the available partitions:`
and nothing...

What is exactly your hardware (disks) configuration?
The kernel is searching for a rootfs on sda1 (that should be your DD if you have one) but doesn't find any disks on the computer.
Here is the screen I had when I had a kernel panic:
Ooops, too big image :( , better like this
[attachment=45683,2604]
The kernel saw only the CD reader and the HD and its 2 partitions

# gzuszando @ Wed, 01 Nov 2017 16:57:44 UTC link

I was able to run SliTaz Next, it was having problems installing grub, so I was able to install it manually using slitaz 4 usb live. I do not think I'm as stable as Rolling, but that's what you have for now.

[attachment=45684,2602]

# Ceel @ Wed, 01 Nov 2017 17:07:27 UTC link

So you don't have any HD; seems the kernel 3.2.71 cannot recognize your SD card reader.

# gzuszando @ Wed, 01 Nov 2017 17:50:27 UTC link

It is the most correct to affirm. I am very grateful for your attention in helping me.

# Ceel @ Fri, 03 Nov 2017 20:00:19 UTC link

@gzuszando

I'll have some free time next week. I'll have a look at kernel 3.2.71 to see why it doesn't boot on your computer while 2.6.37 does.
Can you install pciutils on your SliTaz Next installation (tazpkg -gi pciutils) and copy/post the outputs of lspci -nn and lsusb. Maybe it'll help me.

TazPkg 953 in SliTaz Rolling 2017/10/15

# Ceel @ Fri, 20 Oct 2017 20:05:45 UTC link

Same issue than in SliTaz Next (http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/slitaz-next-iso/page/4#post-45512)

Had to go back to TazPkg 944 and blocked the package.

# roadkill13 @ Thu, 02 Nov 2017 17:09:48 UTC link

How did you go back to 944?

# mojo @ Thu, 02 Nov 2017 18:58:39 UTC link

tazpkg install tazpkg-944.tazpkg --forced
tazpkg block tazpkg

I downgraded on the wok but it may take a few days to get to the mirror.
Downgrade tazpkg (944): 953 doesn't remove updated packages from upgrade list

http://bugs.slitaz.org/?id=185
http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/slitaz-next-iso/page/4#post-45514

# Aleksej @ Sat, 04 Nov 2017 00:09:52 UTC link

To: Richard Dunbar <mojo@slitaz.org>
In the answer to: http://hg.slitaz.org/tazpkg/rev/954

Dear Richard!

Please don't "fix" the bugs here where are none of them.
Stability is very fragile, and it's so easy to break down something you do not
quite understand.

File: modules/install
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
	# Calculate "release checksum": md5sum of file containing md5sums of:
	# a) all files, b) receipt, and c) description.txt.
	rsumf=$(mktemp)
	cp $INSTALLED/$PACKAGE/md5sum $rsumf
	md5sum $INSTALLED/$PACKAGE/receipt | sed 's| [^ ]*/| |' >> $rsumf
	[ -e "$INSTALLED/$PACKAGE/description.txt" ] &&
		md5sum $INSTALLED/$PACKAGE/description.txt | sed 's| [^ ]*/| |' >> $rsumf
	RSUM=$(md5sum $rsumf | awk '{print $1}')
	rm $rsumf

	ii="$PKGS_DB/installed.info"

	# Remove old entry
	sed -i "/^$PACKAGE	/d" "$ii"

	cat >> "$ii" <<EOT
$PACKAGE	$VERSION$EXTRAVERSION	$CATEGORY	$SHORT_DESC	$WEB_SITE	$TAGS	$SIZES	$DEPENDS	$RSUM
EOT
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

What problem is solved?

TazPkg checked new packages based on md5sum of the package file.
Package file is a general-purpose archive. It contains a files timestamps inside
it. Even if you re-build the package without changing anything the timestamps
will change, that will change the md5sum of the package file, and TazPkg will
think there's the new package.

The flood of "updates" on the big package rebuilds, that will not update
anything is quite annoying. How do you like the almost all of your packages are
updated? But what new inside? Nothing.

What do I suggest?

To calculate checksum in a different way. To discard timestamps. Use only
content of the files. If content is changed, then the checksum will change. If
new files are added or removed, checksum will change too. If you "just rebuild"
the package without changing anything, the checksum will not changed.

We already have the file "md5sum" inside every package. In this code we will add
the "receipt" with it's md5sum to this list, as well as "description.txt" (if it
exists). Now we make the convolution via getting md5sum of this combined list.

Now it will show you any changes in package's files as well as in it's receipt
or description.

How it works on the server side?

After the new package is packed, this checksum is calculated. Then "cook"
script compared this checksum with the checksum inside the
packages/packages.info file. If checksum is not changed, the new package is
discards. It prevents SliTaz users from "empty" updates. If checksum is changed,
then old package is substitutes by new one in the packages/ folder.

These checksums are calculated on the "cook pkgdb" command and putted into
packages.info file that TazPkg downloaded on DB recharging (inside the
bundle.lzma file to save the traffic).

Please describe the problem with the updates?

Issue the command "tazpkg up". Check the upgrades, let's say 80 new packages.
Copy this list from terminal to the text editor and save it as list1.txt.
Confirm the updates. Wait. Wait. And wait. Ok, all the packages were upgraded.
Repeat. Issue the "tazpkg up" again. Check the upgrades, let's say 30 new
packages. Copy the list to list2.txt. Compare the lists. Think. And think again.

After the package is installed, TazPkg calculated (on its own!) the package's
checksum and put it into /var/lib/tazpkg/installed.info. Let's check, maybe
checksum here is wrong? Download the "problem" package; extract it; make
"combined list" with algorythm described above; get md5sum; check
installed.info. Hmm, it's matched! Repeat with the second "problem" package.
And it matched too.

But why the TazPkg shows the new package is available?

Because checksum in the packages.info (that who inside the bundle.lzma, see
above...) is wrong!

How it may be wrong?

Who knows... I have only one guessing, and it may be wrong.
I think it caused by the fact the Cooker infrastructure was migrated to another
server. This action wasn't "atomic" (Pascal please correct me) and some new
packages were in the wok/ while some old packages in the packages/.

When "cook" makes the updates it's not checked the package itself in the
packages/ folder, it's checked only the package's checksum in the
packages/packages.info file. The "cook" believes that he putted the package here
into packages/ folder and will overwrite it only if checksum will change.

(During this awaiting the package may be changed only by external forces in an
extraordinary case, but the probability isn't zero, you right.)

What to do?

Repack the "problem" packages on the server. That's only the solution.
And it works. Today I repacked about 300 "problem" packages on the SliTaz Next
Cooker, updated the packages DB, updated the mirror1, and finally re-do the
"tazpkg up" using, for experiment purity, the SliTaz Next Live CD.

All the packages (except one, but here was another problem) are updated. And
none of them are required to update again (except that one, openbox-max, that
has errors in the post-install that causes to self-removing on the upgrade).

Great, this solves the problem with SliTaz Next, but what to do with the
SliTaz Cooking? Rolling?

Pascal managed "Cooker" infrastructure. He has his reasons to NOT update the
Cookutils on the SliTaz Rolling. Cookutils freezes on the version 887:
http://hg.slitaz.org/wok/file/tip/cookutils/receipt
I can't recall which method of the checksum it uses to provide packages.info
to you? But I know the cookutils and tazpkg are working in the pair.
And the database created by cookutils on the server should be understandible by
tazpkg on the user system. TazPkg's version should match Cookutil's version
(not literally, of course; I mean the stages of development, the dates...)

So, it's good that you downgraded the "tazpkg" package in the Rolling repo.
It may solve the problem (I don't know because I don't want to update my
Rolling installation, all that... wait a minute... 505 of 669 packages).

BUT, Cookutils and TazPkg are used in the SliTaz Next too. And there's none of
problem you're fixed by your commit. It's better if you make a patch to the
"tazpkg" package exclusively for the Cooking/Rolling repository receipt.

Thank you to everyone who read up to this place!
I wanted to show you the fact the complex software like Cookutils and TazPkg is
hard to develop and to maintain, and easy to break. Be wise.

Best regards.

How to add a search engine in Netsurf?

# Ceel @ Sat, 21 Oct 2017 19:01:55 UTC link

Hi all,

Does anyone know how to add a search engine in Netsurf?
I didn't find anything about it on the Netsurf website and don't find any configuration file.
Thanks.

# Aleksej @ Mon, 23 Oct 2017 00:04:41 UTC link

Hi Ceel,

I'm not sure, but please check your /usr/share/netsurf/SearchEngines file.

Probably the only way to edit the file manually.
Did you try to press right mouse button inside the search box like in the "big" web browsers?
I don't know, I haven't it installed.

# Ceel @ Thu, 26 Oct 2017 00:45:43 UTC link

Hi Aleksej,

You're right! Adding
Qwant Lite|https://qwant.com|https://lite.qwant.com/?q=%s&client=opensearch|https://qwant.com/favicon.ico|
in SearchEngines I can use now my favorite (or more exactly its light version because Netsurf doesn't support Qwant) search engine.

Thanks.

setting a static ip causes boot to stop at interactive mode?

# TraceE @ Sun, 22 Oct 2017 15:31:50 UTC link

I am using updated 5 rolling.

Boot sequence and wifi work fine using dhcp ... but when a static ip is set (tested working properly) on the next boot when the sequence reaches the wifi setup it stops on selected interface and announces "Interactive Mode"?

I have set the static ip using the instructions here:

http://doc.slitaz.org/en:handbook:networkconf#static-ip-using-a-specific-address

This worked fine for Slitaz 4

What is interactive mode? ... I can find some references to it but can't find any details?

Can you tell me what other setting to change in 5 for a smooth boot sequence with a static ip?

# TraceE @ Mon, 23 Oct 2017 16:20:42 UTC link

Hmmm ...thought this would be a quick and easy answer? ... surely it's just one of the settings in the network.conf that's causing this? (When I turn the dhcp back on it boots automatically again).

Would also like to know more about interactive boot mode commands as can't seem to find any definitive info anywhere?

# mojo @ Mon, 23 Oct 2017 19:56:01 UTC link

slitaz-boot-scripts:/etc/init.d/network.sh
http://hg.slitaz.org/slitaz-boot-scripts/file/65c9b99080a3/etc/init.d/network.sh#l324
Replace this line:
[ -d /var/run/wpa_supplicant ] && wpa_cli -B
With this:
if [ -d /var/run/wpa_supplicant ] && [ "$WIFI" == 'yes' ]; then
wpa
fi

# TraceE @ Mon, 23 Oct 2017 21:11:01 UTC link

??? ... I'm sure somebody wrote me a solution earlier.

Just came back to try it and it's gone ... can't remember who it was now.

Was it incorrect?

# TraceE @ Wed, 25 Oct 2017 23:00:42 UTC link

Nobody else using Slitaz 5 with a static wifi ip address?

# gdesilva @ Thu, 26 Oct 2017 02:39:39 UTC link

Why not do IP address reservation on your router for the wifi MAC address of your computer? I know this is just a work around but will give you the same result. Just an idea.

# TraceE @ Thu, 26 Oct 2017 06:39:41 UTC link

Thanks for the reply gdesilva ....

I already have a complex setup on the router with a full QOS table and many other custom settings to ration the bandwidth to many different gaming systems, tablets, computers and phones here so it would be a lot easier just to set a static ip in the Slitaz settings.

I can set the static ip no problem in Slitaz and use it and it works perfectly ....

The only problem is on reboot ... at the end of the boot sequence the sequence stops at "selected interface ra0" (which is correct as I use a Ralink USB wifi adapter).

Under this it says "Interactive Mode" and there is just a prompt.

This is at the very end of the boot sequence so I would have thought that it would just be a simple change of settings to allow the boot sequence to finish automatically.

If I change the wifi settings (network.conf) back to use dhcp (by changing only the DHCP= to "yes" and the STATIC= to "no") then the problem disappears and the boot sequence runs smoothly again.

I have been trying to find out about "Interactive Mode" but can't find anything about commands for it?

I always used a static ip in Slitaz 4.0 and used the same settings in 5.0 rolling but there are more settings in network.conf now and maybe there is something else in network.conf that I have not set properly that is causing the problem?

Another forum member wrote a solution for me to try and then removed it before I could try it and I didn't have time to take note of who it was ... although I think it may have been "Mojo" if I remember the Avatar correctly.

I thought there would have been a few more people using static ip addresses in 5.0?

One line in the static section of network.conf that I wonder about is:

# Set "yes" if you don't want to store networks you're already connected.
WIFI_BLANK_NETWORKS=""

I don't really understand what it means but wonder if I should have yes or no between the quotes in that line?

Fingers crossed this is going to end up being something really simple ... it usually has been for me with other Slitaz issues ... :)

# Aleksej @ Thu, 26 Oct 2017 07:31:11 UTC link

Hi TraceE,

One line in the static section of network.conf that I wonder about is:

# Set "yes" if you don't want to store networks you're already connected.
WIFI_BLANK_NETWORKS=""

Actually it's not in the "static" section. It's in the "Wi-Fi settings". The history.

My Android use the same program, wpa-supplicant. And it store all the networks with all the passwords I was connected to: my home network old, new, street cafe, home at the sea... But it was the default behavior in the SliTaz-4 to completely remove the wpa-supplican't file with the networks/passwords and then re-create it from scratch using settings from network.conf.

I realized the Android's behavior in the SliTaz, and since then it stores all the networks for you. But, maybe that "amnesia" behavior is good? Maybe someone really want it? So I added this key into network.conf, WIFI_BLANK_NETWORKS with the empty default value, so it not blanks your wpa-supplicant's settings.

Hope this helps to understand this option.

# TraceE @ Thu, 26 Oct 2017 08:40:08 UTC link

Hi Aleksej ...

So you think this setting is not what is causing the boot sequence to go into Interactive Mode.

Any ideas why the static ip settings work fine but boot sequence doesn't like network.conf being set for a static ip?

# mojo @ Fri, 27 Oct 2017 05:15:22 UTC link

@TraceE
If wpa_cli is fed a blank file as an action script it won't go into interactive mode and pause the boot process.
touch /etc/init.d/wpa_cli_static.sh
Find/edit this line on your system:
Slitaz-boot-scripts rev. 445
Edit line 324 in /etc/init.d/network.sh:
http://hg.slitaz.org/slitaz-boot-scripts/file/65c9b99080a3/etc/init.d/network.sh#l324
Change:
[ -d /var/run/wpa_supplicant ] && wpa_cli -B
To:
[ -d /var/run/wpa_supplicant ] && wpa_cli -a"/etc/init.d/wpa_cli_static.sh" -B

slitaz-boot-scripts revision 446
http://hg.slitaz.org/slitaz-boot-scripts/rev/8ba6666579b6

# TraceE @ Fri, 27 Oct 2017 18:57:18 UTC link

Thanks Mojo that's it working properly now ... :)

Openshot problem

# alexx @ Tue, 24 Oct 2017 06:36:36 UTC link

Hello
Can't find solution for run Vide editor Openshot - problem with impotr mlt library
I try link library, other version of slitaz, find solutions but not run this programm

------------------------- ERROR 1 ------------------------------
Failed to import 'from openshot import main'
Error Message: cannot import name main
----------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------
   OpenShot (version 1.3.1)
--------------------------------
Process no longer exists: 2048.  Creating new pid lock file.
*** ERROR: MLT Python bindings failed to import ***
*** ERROR: MLT Python bindings failed to import ***
*** ERROR: MLT Python bindings failed to import ***
Exception in thread Thread-1:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/threading.py", line 552, in __bootstrap_inner
    self.run()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/openshot/classes/thumbnail.py", line 170, in run
    mlt.Factory().init()
NameError: global name 'mlt' is not defined

*** ERROR: MLT Python bindings failed to import ***

------------------------- ERROR 2 ------------------------------
Failed to import 'from openshot.openshot import main'
Error Message: libmlt.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
----------------------------------------------------------------

OpenShot has failed to import some of the Python files or libraries
required for our application to run.  Here are some trouble shooting
tips:

Tip 1) Check if MLT can be successfully imported in Python.  Run the
 following commands, and see if any errors are displayed.  If you get
 an error, you need to investigate the correct way to install MLT.
 NOTE:  Do not type the $ or >> characters in the examples below.

       $ python
       >> import mlt
       >> mlt.Factory().init()

Tip 2) If MLT is working from the first example, then the next tip is
 to look at the above error messages very closely, and google for more
 help.  It's likely the problem is already reported, and maybe there is
 a simple work-around.  Also, you can search for bugs or report a new
 bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/openshot.  Good luck!

# TraceE @ Fri, 27 Oct 2017 19:01:07 UTC link

Yes it's a shame it doesn't work ... I would love a good video editor for Slitaz, Avidemux is ok for really basic stuff but a better featured editor would be really handy.

Slitaz echte Installation auf usb Medium

# opeth @ Wed, 25 Oct 2017 15:43:35 UTC link

ich habe es schon 4 mal versucht aber es bootet nur ein kleines stück und dann findet der das root gz nicht aber bei linux mint geht das ohne probleme warum geht das mit slitaz nicht ?

# kultex @ Wed, 25 Oct 2017 19:48:37 UTC link

es sollte kein Problem sein

http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/kernel-panic-slitaz-rolling-after-installation-usb-live

poste mal Deine menu.lst....

ich benutze nur frugal install - und das funktioniert von Platte, Stick oder sd-card

http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:frugal
http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:uncommoninst

hier wird die Installation auf sd-card beschrieben - funktioniert auch für usb.......

http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:sdcard

# opeth @ Thu, 26 Oct 2017 13:44:02 UTC link

super, danke im monent kann ich nicht viel mit slitaz machen bekomme keine Verbindung zum Router

keine wlan verbindug mit Thinkpad Z61p

# opeth @ Wed, 25 Oct 2017 16:00:50 UTC link

Hallo und guten Tag ,

ich habe ein Thinkpad Z61p und das das slitaz 5 von ende September und versuche seit dem eine wlan Verbindug mit meinem Router herzustellen.
Das tazpanel hat einmal beim scan mein Router gefunden aber hat sich nicht verbinden können dann habe ich noch einmal scannen wollen doch dann kam keine Ausgabe.

iwlist wlan0 scan funktioniert nicht - fehlermeldung- device down oder so- weis ich jetzt nicht mehr ich schreibe gerade von einem anderem PC.

iwconfig wlan0 up ergab auch eine Fehlermeldung ...

Dann habe ich 2 Wlan Sticks probiert aber das funktionierte auch nicht.
Zu aller letzt habe ich dann den alten Amilo M7400 genommen aber auch da keine Verbindung möglich .

hat jemand eine idee was kann man machen ?

für eure Hilfe bin ich sehr Dankbar

Danke und guten Tag

# kultex @ Wed, 25 Oct 2017 19:37:02 UTC link

poste mal den output von: dmesg | grep .fw

wahrscheinlich gibt es da eineFehlermeldung, dass eine Firmware fehlt

slitaz hat nicht viel firmwares mit - die musst Du eben nachinstallieren

http://pkgs.slitaz.org/?package=firmware

Du kannst auch hier http://anduin.linuxfromscratch.org/BLFS/linux-firmware/ die firmware suchen und einfach nach /lib/firmware kopieren

dann einfach mit rmmod das moudul entladen und mit modprobe wieder laden...

es muss nicht unbedingt wlan0 heißen - dmesg gibt Auskunft

und daan noch die network.conf anpassen...

http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:wifi-easy

# opeth @ Thu, 26 Oct 2017 09:32:40 UTC link

gut Danke ,,

also die Firmware wird schon geladen aber das Paket "firmware-iwlwifi-3945-20141201.tazpkg"
war in /lib/firmware noch nicht vorhanden .

ich werde es jetzt da einfügen und Posten dann noch mal die beiden ausgaben ...

root@slitaz:/home/Benutzer# dmesg | grep .fw
psmouse serio1: synaptics: Touchpad model: 1, fw: 6.2, id: 0x81a0b1, caps: 0xa04793/0x300000/0x0

root@slitaz:/home/Benutzer# lsmod
Module Size Used by
ipv6 178202 15
intel_agp 7912 0
intel_gtt 9087 1 intel_agp
video 9499 0
button 3282 0
pcmcia 24500 0
yenta_socket 15844 0
pcmcia_rsrc 6940 1 yenta_socket
pcmcia_core 8062 3 pcmcia_rsrc,yenta_socket,pcmcia
tg3 104067 0
libphy 11158 1 tg3
snd_hda_codec_analog 55171 1
snd_hda_intel 17005 1
snd_hda_codec 45588 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_analog
snd_hwdep 3811 1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm 42938 2 snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel
snd_page_alloc 4669 2 snd_pcm,snd_hda_intel
snd_timer 12069 1 snd_pcm
snd 33686 8 snd_timer,snd_pcm,snd_hwdep,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_analog
soundcore 3254 1 snd
radeon 561888 2
i2c_algo_bit 3627 1 radeon
ttm 36568 1 radeon
drm_kms_helper 17504 1 radeon
drm 118582 3 drm_kms_helper,ttm,radeon
agpgart 17563 4 drm,ttm,intel_gtt,intel_agp
hwmon 865 1 radeon
i2c_core 12294 4 drm,drm_kms_helper,i2c_algo_bit,radeon
iwl3945 53245 0
iwl_legacy 36235 1 iwl3945
mac80211 161510 2 iwl_legacy,iwl3945
cfg80211 117334 3 mac80211,iwl_legacy,iwl3945
rfkill 10151 1 cfg80211

# opeth @ Thu, 26 Oct 2017 09:48:30 UTC link

So nun habe ich nach dem ich die firmware eingefügt habe noch einmal einen Versuch unternommen eine Verbindung herzustellen aber nur mit dem tazpanel da ich schon wider vergesenhabe wie man das in der Komandozeile macht und ich damit immer Schwierigkeiten habe bin ich auf die grafischen Tools angewiesen.

Leider war noch keine Verbinug moglich.
lsmod zegt jetzt 2 Kernelmodule einmal iwl3945 und dann noch den lagecy soll ich jetzt den eienen blacklisten ? /etc/modprobe.d

root@slitaz:/home/Benutzer# dmesg | grep .fw
psmouse serio1: synaptics: Touchpad model: 1, fw: 6.2, id: 0x81a0b1, caps: 0xa04793/0x300000/0x0
root@slitaz:/home/Benutzer#

root@slitaz:/home/Benutzer# lsmod
Module Size Used by
ipv6 178202 27
intel_agp 7912 0
intel_gtt 9087 1 intel_agp
video 9499 0
button 3282 0
pcmcia 24500 0
yenta_socket 15844 0
pcmcia_rsrc 6940 1 yenta_socket
pcmcia_core 8062 3 pcmcia_rsrc,yenta_socket,pcmcia
tg3 104067 0
libphy 11158 1 tg3
snd_hda_codec_analog 55171 1
snd_hda_intel 17005 1
snd_hda_codec 45588 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_analog
snd_hwdep 3811 1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm 42938 2 snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel
snd_page_alloc 4669 2 snd_pcm,snd_hda_intel
snd_timer 12069 1 snd_pcm
snd 33686 8 snd_timer,snd_pcm,snd_hwdep,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_analog
soundcore 3254 1 snd
radeon 561888 2
i2c_algo_bit 3627 1 radeon
ttm 36568 1 radeon
drm_kms_helper 17504 1 radeon
drm 118582 3 drm_kms_helper,ttm,radeon
agpgart 17563 4 drm,ttm,intel_gtt,intel_agp
hwmon 865 1 radeon
i2c_core 12294 4 drm,drm_kms_helper,i2c_algo_bit,radeon
iwl3945 53245 0
iwl_legacy 36235 1 iwl3945
mac80211 161510 2 iwl_legacy,iwl3945
cfg80211 117334 3 mac80211,iwl_legacy,iwl3945
rfkill 10151 1 cfg80211

# kultex @ Thu, 26 Oct 2017 10:40:43 UTC link

lsmod schaut gut aus....

iwlwifi scheint für die Firmware kein .fw zu benutzen....

dann müssen wir die ganze dmesg anschauen

im Terminal:

dmesg > dmesg.txt

dann die Datei anhängen (findest du im Home Ordner tux)

# opeth @ Thu, 26 Oct 2017 12:00:42 UTC link


# opeth @ Thu, 26 Oct 2017 12:02:33 UTC link


# opeth @ Thu, 26 Oct 2017 12:37:32 UTC link

ine)
ACPI: acpi_idle registered with cpuidle
thermal LNXTHERM:00: registered as thermal_zone0
ACPI: Thermal Zone [THM0] (66 C)
thermal LNXTHERM:01: registered as thermal_zone1
ACPI: Thermal Zone [THM1] (61 C)
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
ACPI: Deprecated procfs I/F for battery is loaded, please retry with CONFIG_ACPI_PROCFS_POWER cleared
ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT0] (battery present)
isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
Serial: 8250/16550 driver, 4 ports, IRQ sharing disabled
Non-volatile memory driver v1.3
intel_rng: FWH not detected
brd: module loaded
loop: module loaded
ahci 0000:00:1f.2: version 3.0
ahci 0000:00:1f.2: PCI INT B -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
ahci 0000:00:1f.2: irq 45 for MSI/MSI-X
ahci 0000:00:1f.2: AHCI 0001.0100 32 slots 4 ports 1.5 Gbps 0x1 impl SATA mode
ahci 0000:00:1f.2: flags: 64bit ncq pm led clo pio slum part
ahci 0000:00:1f.2: setting latency timer to 64
scsi0 : ahci
scsi1 : ahci
scsi2 : ahci
scsi3 : ahci
ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m1024@0xee404400 port 0xee404500 irq 45
ata2: DUMMY
ata3: DUMMY
ata4: DUMMY
ata_piix 0000:00:1f.1: version 2.13
ata_piix 0000:00:1f.1: PCI INT C -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
ata_piix 0000:00:1f.1: setting latency timer to 64
scsi4 : ata_piix
scsi5 : ata_piix
ata5: PATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0x1f0 ctl 0x3f6 bmdma 0x1880 irq 14
ata6: PATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0x170 ctl 0x376 bmdma 0x1888 irq 15
ata6: port disabled--ignoring
tun: Universal TUN/TAP device driver, 1.6
tun: (C) 1999-2004 Max Krasnyansky <maxk@qualcomm.com>
pcnet32: pcnet32.c:v1.35 21.Apr.2008 tsbogend@alpha.franken.de
dmfe: Davicom DM9xxx net driver, version 1.36.4 (2002-01-17)
v1.01-e (2.4 port) Sep-11-2006 Donald Becker <becker@scyld.com>
http://www.scyld.com/network/drivers.html
ns83820.c: National Semiconductor DP83820 10/100/1000 driver.
tlan: ThunderLAN driver v1.17
tlan: 0 devices installed, PCI: 0 EISA: 0
PPP generic driver version 2.4.2
PPP BSD Compression module registered
PPP Deflate Compression module registered
PPP MPPE Compression module registered
NET: Registered protocol family 24
ehci_hcd: USB 2.0 'Enhanced' Host Controller (EHCI) Driver
ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: power state changed by ACPI to D0
ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: power state changed by ACPI to D0
ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: PCI INT D -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19
ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: setting latency timer to 64
ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: EHCI Host Controller
ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: using broken periodic workaround
ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: debug port 1
ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: cache line size of 64 is not supported
ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: irq 19, io mem 0xee404000
ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: USB 2.0 started, EHCI 1.00
hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 1-0:1.0: 8 ports detected
ohci_hcd: USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver
uhci_hcd: USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: power state changed by ACPI to D0
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: power state changed by ACPI to D0
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: setting latency timer to 64
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: UHCI Host Controller
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: irq 16, io base 0x00001800
hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 2-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: power state changed by ACPI to D0
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: power state changed by ACPI to D0
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: PCI INT B -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: setting latency timer to 64
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: UHCI Host Controller
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: irq 17, io base 0x00001820
hub 3-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 3-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.2: PCI INT C -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 18
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.2: setting latency timer to 64
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.2: UHCI Host Controller
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 4
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.2: irq 18, io base 0x00001840
hub 4-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 4-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.3: PCI INT D -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.3: setting latency timer to 64
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.3: UHCI Host Controller
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.3: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 5
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.3: irq 19, io base 0x00001860
hub 5-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 5-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage
USB Mass Storage support registered.
i8042: PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303:KBD,PNP0f13:MOU] at 0x60,0x64 irq 1,12
serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1
serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12
mousedev: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
input: PC Speaker as /devices/platform/pcspkr/input/input0
rtc_cmos 00:07: RTC can wake from S4
rtc_cmos 00:07: rtc core: registered rtc_cmos as rtc0
rtc0: alarms up to one month, y3k, 114 bytes nvram
cpuidle: using governor ladder
cpuidle: using governor menu
input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input1
usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid
usbhid: USB HID core driver
IPv4 over IPv4 tunneling driver
GRE over IPv4 demultiplexor driver
TCP cubic registered
NET: Registered protocol family 17
NET: Registered protocol family 15
NET: Registered protocol family 33
RxRPC: Registered security type 2 'rxkad'
Registering the dns_resolver key type
Using IPI No-Shortcut mode
registered taskstats version 1
rtc_cmos 00:07: setting system clock to 2017-10-26 11:13:47 UTC (1509016427)
ata5.00: ATAPI: MATSHITADVD-RAM UJ-850, RB01, max UDMA/33
ata5.00: configured for UDMA/33
ata1: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300)
ata1.00: ACPI cmd ef/02:00:00:00:00:a0 (SET FEATURES) succeeded
ata1.00: ACPI cmd f5/00:00:00:00:00:a0 (SECURITY FREEZE LOCK) filtered out
ata1.00: ACPI cmd ef/10:03:00:00:00:a0 (SET FEATURES) filtered out
ata1.00: ATA-8: KINGSTON SV300S37A60G, 505ABBF1, max UDMA/133
ata1.00: 117231408 sectors, multi 16: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32), AA
ata1.00: ACPI cmd ef/02:00:00:00:00:a0 (SET FEATURES) succeeded
ata1.00: ACPI cmd f5/00:00:00:00:00:a0 (SECURITY FREEZE LOCK) filtered out
ata1.00: ACPI cmd ef/10:03:00:00:00:a0 (SET FEATURES) filtered out
ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133
scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA KINGSTON SV300S3 505A PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 117231408 512-byte logical blocks: (60.0 GB/55.8 GiB)
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4
scsi 4:0:0:0: CD-ROM MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ-850 RB01 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
cdrom: Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
sr 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0
sr 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 5
usb 4-2: new full-speed USB device number 2 using uhci_hcd
psmouse serio1: synaptics: Touchpad model: 1, fw: 6.2, id: 0x81a0b1, caps: 0xa04793/0x300000/0x0
psmouse serio1: synaptics: serio: Synaptics pass-through port at isa0060/serio1/input0
input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input2
EXT3-fs (sda3): error: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (240)
EXT4-fs (sda3): couldn't mount as ext2 due to feature incompatibilities
EXT4-fs (sda3): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
VFS: Mounted root (ext4 filesystem) readonly on device 8:3.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 456k freed
udevd[938]: starting version 182
EXT4-fs (sda3): re-mounted. Opts: user_xattr,barrier=1,data=ordered
EXT4-fs (sda3): re-mounted. Opts: user_xattr,barrier=1,data=ordered
cfg80211: Calling CRDA to update world regulatory domain
iwl3945: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG/BG Network Connection driver for Linux, in-tree:s
iwl3945: Copyright(c) 2003-2011 Intel Corporation
iwl3945 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
iwl3945 0000:03:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
iwl3945 0000:03:00.0: Tunable channels: 13 802.11bg, 23 802.11a channels
iwl3945 0000:03:00.0: Detected Intel Wireless WiFi Link 3945ABG
iwl3945 0000:03:00.0: irq 46 for MSI/MSI-X
Registered led device: phy0-led
ieee80211 phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'iwl-3945-rs'
Linux agpgart interface v0.103
[drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
[drm] radeon defaulting to kernel modesetting.
[drm] radeon kernel modesetting enabled.
radeon 0000:01:00.0: power state changed by ACPI to D0
radeon 0000:01:00.0: power state changed by ACPI to D0
radeon 0000:01:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
radeon 0000:01:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
[drm] initializing kernel modesetting (RV530 0x1002:0x71C4 0x17AA:0x202B).
[drm] register mmio base: 0xEE000000
[drm] register mmio size: 65536
ATOM BIOS: Lenovo
[drm] Generation 2 PCI interface, using max accessible memory
radeon 0000:01:00.0: VRAM: 256M 0x0000000000000000 - 0x000000000FFFFFFF (256M used)
radeon 0000:01:00.0: GTT: 512M 0x0000000010000000 - 0x000000002FFFFFFF
[drm] Detected VRAM RAM=256M, BAR=256M
[drm] RAM width 128bits DDR
[TTM] Zone kernel: Available graphics memory: 442688 kiB.
[TTM] Zone highmem: Available graphics memory: 1036004 kiB.
[TTM] Initializing pool allocator.
[drm] radeon: 256M of VRAM memory ready
[drm] radeon: 512M of GTT memory ready.
[drm] GART: num cpu pages 131072, num gpu pages 131072
[drm] radeon: 1 quad pipes, 2 z pipes initialized.
[drm] PCIE GART of 512M enabled (table at 0x0000000000040000).
radeon 0000:01:00.0: WB enabled
[drm] Supports vblank timestamp caching Rev 1 (10.10.2010).
[drm] Driver supports precise vblank timestamp query.
radeon 0000:01:00.0: irq 47 for MSI/MSI-X
radeon 0000:01:00.0: radeon: using MSI.
[drm] radeon: irq initialized.
[drm] Loading R500 Microcode
[drm] radeon: ring at 0x0000000010001000
[drm] ring test succeeded in 9 usecs
[drm] radeon: ib pool ready.
[drm] ib test succeeded in 0 usecs
[drm] Radeon Display Connectors
[drm] Connector 0:
[drm] VGA
[drm] DDC: 0x7e40 0x7e40 0x7e44 0x7e44 0x7e48 0x7e48 0x7e4c 0x7e4c
[drm] Encoders:
[drm] CRT1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC1
[drm] Connector 1:
[drm] LVDS
[drm] DDC: 0x7e60 0x7e60 0x7e64 0x7e64 0x7e68 0x7e68 0x7e6c 0x7e6c
[drm] Encoders:
[drm] LCD1: INTERNAL_LVTM1
[drm] Connector 2:
[drm] S-video
[drm] Encoders:
[drm] TV1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC2
[drm] Connector 3:
[drm] DVI-I
[drm] HPD1
[drm] DDC: 0x7e50 0x7e50 0x7e54 0x7e54 0x7e58 0x7e58 0x7e5c 0x7e5c
[drm] Encoders:
[drm] DFP1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_TMDS1
[drm] radeon: power management initialized
[drm] fb mappable at 0xD00C0000
[drm] vram apper at 0xD0000000
[drm] size 9216000
[drm] fb depth is 24
[drm] pitch is 7680
fbcon: radeondrmfb (fb0) is primary device
Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 240x75
fb0: radeondrmfb frame buffer device
drm: registered panic notifier
[drm] Initialized radeon 2.12.0 20080528 for 0000:01:00.0 on minor 0
snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: PCI INT B -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
hda_intel: probe_mask set to 0x1 for device 17aa:2010
snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: irq 48 for MSI/MSI-X
snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: setting latency timer to 64
tg3.c:v3.121 (November 2, 2011)
tg3 0000:02:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
tg3 0000:02:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
tg3 0000:02:00.0: eth0: Tigon3 [partno(BCM95752m) rev 6002] (PCI Express) MAC address 00:16:36:78:d7:1c
tg3 0000:02:00.0: eth0: attached PHY is 5752 (10/100/1000Base-T Ethernet) (WireSpeed[1], EEE[0])
tg3 0000:02:00.0: eth0: RXcsums[1] LinkChgREG[0] MIirq[0] ASF[0] TSOcap[1]
tg3 0000:02:00.0: eth0: dma_rwctrl[76180000] dma_mask[64-bit]
yenta_cardbus 0000:15:00.0: CardBus bridge found [17aa:2028]
yenta_cardbus 0000:15:00.0: Using INTVAL to route CSC interrupts to PCI
yenta_cardbus 0000:15:00.0: Routing CardBus interrupts to ISA
yenta_cardbus 0000:15:00.0: TI: mfunc 0x01db1b22, devctl 0x64
yenta_cardbus 0000:15:00.0: ISA IRQ mask 0x0cf8, PCI irq 16
yenta_cardbus 0000:15:00.0: Socket status: 30000086
yenta_cardbus 0000:15:00.0: pcmcia: parent PCI bridge window: [io 0x9000-0xcfff]
pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket0: cs: IO port probe 0x9000-0xcfff: excluding 0x9000-0x90ff 0x9400-0x94ff
yenta_cardbus 0000:15:00.0: pcmcia: parent PCI bridge window: [mem 0xe4300000-0xe7ffffff]
pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket0: cs: memory probe 0xe4300000-0xe7ffffff: excluding 0xe4300000-0xe46cffff
yenta_cardbus 0000:15:00.0: pcmcia: parent PCI bridge window: [mem 0xe0000000-0xe3ffffff 64bit pref]
pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket0: cs: memory probe 0xe0000000-0xe3ffffff: excluding 0xe0000000-0xe3ffffff
pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket0: cs: IO port probe 0x100-0x3af: excluding 0x170-0x177 0x1f0-0x1f7 0x370-0x377
pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket0: cs: IO port probe 0x3e0-0x4ff: excluding 0x3f0-0x3f7 0x4d0-0x4d7
pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket0: cs: IO port probe 0x820-0x8ff: clean.
pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket0: cs: IO port probe 0xc00-0xcf7: clean.
pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket0: cs: memory probe 0x0c0000-0x0fffff: excluding 0xc0000-0xd3fff 0xdc000-0xfffff
pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket0: cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: clean.
pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket0: cs: memory probe 0x60000000-0x60ffffff: excluding 0x60000000-0x60ffffff
pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket0: cs: IO port probe 0xa00-0xaff: clean.
input: Lid Switch as /devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0C0D:00/input/input3
ACPI: Lid Switch [LID]
input: Sleep Button as /devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0C0E:00/input/input4
ACPI: Sleep Button [SLPB]
input: Power Button as /devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXPWRBN:00/input/input5
ACPI: Power Button [PWRF]
acpi device:02: registered as cooling_device2
input: Video Bus as /devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0A08:00/device:01/LNXVIDEO:00/input/input6
ACPI: Video Device [VID] (multi-head: yes rom: no post: no)
pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket0: cs: IO port probe 0x100-0x3af: excluding 0x170-0x177 0x1f0-0x1f7 0x370-0x377
pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket0: cs: IO port probe 0x3e0-0x4ff: excluding 0x3f0-0x3f7 0x4d0-0x4d7
pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket0: cs: IO port probe 0x820-0x8ff: clean.
pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket0: cs: IO port probe 0xc00-0xcf7: clean.
pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket0: cs: memory probe 0x0c0000-0x0fffff: excluding 0xc0000-0xd3fff 0xdc000-0xfffff
pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket0: cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: clean.
pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket0: cs: memory probe 0x60000000-0x60ffffff: excluding 0x60000000-0x60ffffff
pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket0: cs: IO port probe 0xa00-0xaff: clean.
Adding 2047996k swap on /dev/sda2. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:2047996k SS
NET: Registered protocol family 10
iwl3945 0000:03:00.0: iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode firmware file req failed: -2
iwl3945 0000:03:00.0: iwlwifi-3945-1.ucode firmware file req failed: -2
iwl3945 0000:03:00.0: Could not read microcode: -2
iwl3945 0000:03:00.0: iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode firmware file req failed: -2
iwl3945 0000:03:00.0: iwlwifi-3945-1.ucode firmware file req failed: -2
iwl3945 0000:03:00.0: Could not read microcode: -2
iwl3945 0000:03:00.0: iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode firmware file req failed: -2
iwl3945 0000:03:00.0: iwlwifi-3945-1.ucode firmware file req failed: -2
iwl3945 0000:03:00.0: Could not read microcode: -2
IBM TrackPoint firmware: 0x0e, buttons: 3/3
input: TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/input/input7

# kultex @ Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:16:06 UTC link

wieso hast die datei nicht attached?

und am Ende steht ganz klar: iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode firmware file req failed

also http://anduin.linuxfromscratch.org/BLFS/linux-firmware/iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode
runterladen, nach /lib/firmware kopieren iwl3945 entladen und wieder neu laden und dann soll es passen.....

# opeth @ Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:35:06 UTC link

ok danke !!

# opeth @ Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:54:13 UTC link

Danke hat funktioniert Klasse !

# oui @ Fri, 10 Nov 2017 10:38:03 UTC link

hallo kultex

toll wie Du opeth geholfen hast.
ich misbrauche jetzt den topic. auch in einem anderen topic ( http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/slitaz-von-cd-gebootet-aber-installer-erkennt-die-cd-nicht ) habe ich den Eindruck, dass Du ein deutschsprachiger Mensch (Deutscher / Schweizer / Österreicher / Elsässer) bist? Ist es so (ich habe mich gerade wegen dieser Erkennung für ein Pseudo entschieden, das jedem zeigt, dass, obwohl ich viel auf Deutsch, und seit einigen Jahren sogar, English schreibe, auch Anleitungen, und Wiki-Seiten, ich Bildungsausländer in diesen Sprachen bin. Ich lebe aber in Deutschland, in absoluter Nähe der holländischen und sogar belgischen Grenze, Mönchengladbach)?

Es hat mehrere "Generationen" von SliTaz-Communities gegeben (die Erste, die verloren ging, dann eine mit dem Vanillia-Forum, die vor dem Auftreten von Aleksej und diese jetzt). Die erste ging (sagte man uns hinterher) vollkommen verloren: Wiki, Forum, usw. alles war über Nacht weg (oder nicht mehr zugänglich; kommt aber auf das gleiche hinaus!).

Da war ich wie Du heute sehr engagiert, hatte weit mehr als 1/3 des Handbuchs ins Deutsche (mein Bildungsausländer-Deutsch!) übertragen, und moderierte/animierte den deutschen Teil des Forums, wie Du es derzeit machst, einer enormer Zeitaufwand von meiner Seite, hinterher gesehen, umsonst...

Auch ich hatte meine Übersetzungen nicht gesichert: ich hatte sehr schlechte PC's, deshalb SliTaz, zum Teil sogar mit defektem Hartdisk! Wo dann sichern (CDRW? Ja, hatte ich in einer speziellen Puppy-Version getestet, die wirklich speziell dafür ausgeknobbelt worden war, die CDRW habe ich immer noch, und sie läuft immer noch an einem alten Book-PC, 64 MB RAM, das ich nur deshalb noch nicht verschrottet habe. Nur, es ist traurig langsam, und sichern sollte man dann lieber mit 2 Laufwerken und das hatte ich nicht)? In meiner Branche (Textil) hat uns Frau Merkel zig JAAAAAHREN Kurzarbeit mit minimal-Einkommen geschenkt (rechtlich gesehen, hätte das Arbeitsamt viel früher dem Arbeitgeber "nein" sagen müssen, Kurzarbeit gibt's nicht mehr...)!

Dann hatte ich den Bleistift fallen lassen...

Außerdem war die Bildschirmsteuerung bei SliTaz (aber Ubuntu genauso) IMMER etwas heikler als bei Puppy (oder Debian) an Intel bestückten PC's und da ich wenig Geld hatte, meinte ich immer PC's kaufen zu müssen, solange ich Windows beim Arbeitgeber auf jedem Fall hatte, die Intel bestückt sind. Also oft Ärger mit SliTaz und Ubuntu (heute noch habe ich Ärger in "next" am DELL Laptop ansonsten mit einer Bildschirm-Qualität, die Laptops, zu der Zeit wo er neu war, noch gar nicht hatten...)

Ich sehe aber, dass mit "next" ein Neubeginn erfolgen könnte. Ich würde dann wieder helfen zu übersetzen, wenn dieser Neubeginn zukunftsweisend erscheint, und wenn man sich auf echter deutschsprachiger Seite nicht ärgert, wie ich Deutsch maltraitiere, so Zeitwort total vergessen, weil er im Textfluss der französischen Denkweise hinten im Satz nichts zu suchen hat, und daher schon weiter ist und dran nicht mehr denkt! Die Kleinigkeit der Texteditorenfenster tut, dass man oft nicht den ganzen Text nicht sieht, ja, ich weiß, ich schreibe zu lange Sätze, und daher so was eher passiert. Was mich angeht, ist die Voraussetzung, ich schaffe es selbst nachzustellen / zu testen, was ich übersetze: Ist die Vorlage derart, dass ich es nicht schaffe, übersetze ich nicht mehr, in der Fremdsprache schon gar nicht, da ich immer wieder Formulierungen auf Deutsch / Englisch / Russisch antreffe (ja, ich denke sogar in "meinem Russisch", habe es alleine gelernt als 15..17 Jährigen, habe aber NIE die Gelegenheit gehabt, absolut nie, mit jemandem zu sprechen, und würde es nicht mehr beginnen: Andere Sprachen, wie Koreanisch, Hindi, Tamil, interessieren viel mehr...), die mir irgendwie nicht gefällig sind, und wo man grobe Fehler machen kann. Deshalb dränge ich auf die Auffrischung des Book of SliTaz from Scratch auf dem Stand von, direkt, "next". Das ist in meinen das B,A, BA!

Gruß

françois

# Aleksej @ Fri, 10 Nov 2017 12:07:44 UTC link

The old vanilla-based SliTaz forum: http://vanilla.slitaz.org

And we are all there:

Good old times :)
Although, that forum showed only a mocking text, when you look it up from the mobile phone, and it was so pretty painful for me in those days because Internet was only in the mobile phone, and quite expensive...

What has happened to ftp://cook.slitaz.org/ ...?

# Darjeeling @ Sat, 28 Oct 2017 01:55:57 UTC link

... it used to be such a convenient way to peek into packages and to read the receipts without having to download and extract the packages manually. Did the page eat up too many resources on the server, or why has it been removed?

# mojo @ Sat, 28 Oct 2017 08:20:19 UTC link

That must be the reason the browse link for cooked packages is dead on cook.slitaz.org :^(
{bugs,scn,tank,people}.slitaz.org are broken as well as ftp://cook.slitaz.org.

# Aleksej @ Sat, 28 Oct 2017 09:57:04 UTC link

Hi there,

First, I don't manage servers (have no skills for it).

The mail list's thread called "cook.slitaz.org not loading" help to understanding the current situation with the SliTaz servers:

https://listengine.tuxfamily.org/lists.tuxfamily.org/slitaz/2017/09/msg00008.html

The tank VM is on the same host than mirror1 (188.165.229.172)
The ip 212.233.61.5 is used as redirector only.

The tank VM is ok but the redirector is dead.

As a temporary workaround add '188.165.229.172 tank.slitaz.org
cook.slitaz.org' in your /etc/hosts

You have still ssh access to tank with 'ssh -p 2250 mirror1.slitaz.org'

I hope to fix the redirector this evening.

-pascal

So, after adding the entry to /etc/hosts:

And old FTP still don't work.

# Bellard @ Sat, 28 Oct 2017 17:24:10 UTC link

Hi,

http://bugs.slitaz.org/ http://scn.slitaz.org/ http://people.slitaz.org/ http://arm.slitaz.org/ http://boot.slitaz.org/ http://irc.slitaz.org/ http://man.slitaz.org/ http://mirror2.slitaz.org/ http://pro.slitaz.org/ http://roadmap.slitaz.org/ http://seb.slitaz.org/ http://ssfs.slitaz.org/ http://tinycm.slitaz.org/ and http://try.slitaz.org/ are online now.
ftp://cook.slitaz.org/ is fixed.

The redirector is dead. Please use 'ssh -p 2250 mirror1.slitaz.org' trick to log in tank.

Edit: https://ns.slitaz.org/ is online now.

# Aleksej @ Sat, 28 Oct 2017 17:57:12 UTC link

Thank you, Pascal!

# mojo @ Sat, 28 Oct 2017 18:07:56 UTC link

Thank you very much!

# Darjeeling @ Sat, 28 Oct 2017 18:09:28 UTC link

Great, thanks a lot Pascal.

Losing sound on videos with 5 rolling.

# TraceE @ Sun, 29 Oct 2017 22:16:37 UTC link

Hi hoping this is another quick one.

Since installing 5 rolling I have noticed that when watching videos online (youtube etc.) and on players (Mplayer, VLC etc.) quite often when changing to another video or pausing for more than a few seconds the sound disappears.

I can get it back by opening Alsamixer, pressing f6 and re-sellecting the soundcard even though there is only one card available.

Sometimes I have to do this with every video change and if I'm watching a lot of short one's it can take up a lot of time.

Can anyone help me troubleshoot why this is happening?

# TraceE @ Sun, 29 Oct 2017 22:50:27 UTC link

Here's some further system sound card info to save some time:

root@slitaz:/home/tux# grep Codec /proc/asound/card*/codec*
Codec: Analog Devices AD1984A
root@slitaz:/home/tux# ls -la /proc/asound
total 0
dr-xr-xr-x 5 root root 0 Oct 29 21:46 .
dr-xr-xr-x 103 root root 0 Oct 29 20:23 ..
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 Oct 29 21:46 Intel -> card0
dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Oct 29 21:46 card0
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 29 21:46 cards
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 29 21:46 devices
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 29 21:46 hwdep
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 29 21:46 modules
dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Oct 29 21:46 oss
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 29 21:46 pcm
dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Oct 29 21:46 seq
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 29 21:46 timers
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 29 21:46 version
root@slitaz:/home/tux# aplay -L
null
Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
sysdefault:CARD=Intel
HDA Intel, AD198x Analog
Default Audio Device
front:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, AD198x Analog
Front speakers
surround40:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, AD198x Analog
4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, AD198x Analog
4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, AD198x Analog
5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, AD198x Analog
5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, AD198x Analog
7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
root@slitaz:/home/tux# aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: AD198x Analog [AD198x Analog]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
root@slitaz:/home/tux# lsmod | grep -i snd
snd_hda_codec_analog 55171 1
snd_hda_intel 17005 4
snd_hda_codec 45588 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_analog
snd_hwdep 3811 1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm 42938 2 snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel
snd_page_alloc 4669 2 snd_pcm,snd_hda_intel
snd_timer 12069 1 snd_pcm
snd 33686 14 snd_timer,snd_pcm,snd_hwdep,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_analog
soundcore 3254 1 snd
root@slitaz:/home/tux#

# TraceE @ Wed, 01 Nov 2017 05:17:32 UTC link

Could it be because I am using Firefox 52.0.2 and have installed Pulseaudio and it's affecting Alsa?

I found this post which I think may hint at something similar:

http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/issue-with-pulseaudio

And this link which may hold some answers:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Examples#PulseAudio_as_a_minimal_unintrusive_dumb_pipe_to_ALSA

But it's a bit above my head ... any suggestions?

# TraceE @ Wed, 01 Nov 2017 05:24:50 UTC link

Should I just copy Mojo's Pulse file settings?

# Syn_thinnes-terin @ Wed, 01 Nov 2017 13:05:10 UTC link

Hey @TraceE,

It seems that Pulseaudio possibly conflicting with ALSA. I am no expert with this, but just only use logical thought to solve this. Try the @Mojo's Pulse file settings (I can understand the comment's code, so it should solve the sound conflict problem). Reply back the result after you try it. :)

slitaz von cd gebootet aber installer erkennt die cd nicht

# opeth @ Wed, 01 Nov 2017 16:19:10 UTC link

was soll das ? dieses Problem kenn ich schon seit slitaz 2 warum ist das immer noch so ?

wenn man in der Konsole zu /dev/cdrom geht ist der Orner lehr wenn man: mount /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom
ausführt kommt die meldung kein Medium vorhanden aber ich habe doch von der cd gebootet...

# Ceel @ Wed, 01 Nov 2017 19:07:14 UTC link

Hi opeth,

Did you have a look at these topics?

http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/error-message-when-installing-slitaz-4

Maybe you have 2 readers (CD + DVD)
From the Live session, insert a CD in the CD reader, open PCManFM and mount the CDROM then open TazPanel and see how the CDROM is named (sr0 in my case).
Repeat with a DVD in the DVD reader (sr1 for me)
http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/cant-install-slitaz-rc-2-to-hard-disk#post-30734

What is exactly the error message of the installer?

# opeth @ Thu, 02 Nov 2017 08:29:38 UTC link

mein Laptop hat nur ein DVD Laufwerk bei der ersten installation hat es funktioniert
slitaz 3.2.71 -slitaz #4
PCmanFM sagt Mount:kein Medium in /dev/sr0 gefunden
installer sagt :

einhängen von /dev/sr0 gescheitert .Prozess nicht abgeschlossen.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
root@slitaz:/# mount /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom
Error opening '/dev/sr0': Kein Medium gefunden
Failed to mount '/dev/sr0': Kein Medium gefunden
root@slitaz:/#

root@slitaz:/# cat /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info
CD-ROM information, Id: cdrom.c 3.20 2003/12/17

drive name: sr0
drive speed: 10
drive # of slots: 1
Can close tray: 1
Can open tray: 1
Can lock tray: 1
Can change speed: 1
Can select disk: 0
Can read multisession: 1
Can read MCN: 1
Reports media changed: 1
Can play audio: 1
Can write CD-R: 1
Can write CD-RW: 1
Can read DVD: 1
Can write DVD-R: 1
Can write DVD-RAM: 1
Can read MRW: 1
Can write MRW: 1
Can write RAM: 1

# kultex @ Thu, 02 Nov 2017 09:02:11 UTC link

versuch mal nach dem booten die CD rauszunehmen und wieder neu einlegen....

schau was dann passier in PCmanFM

# opeth @ Thu, 02 Nov 2017 18:19:54 UTC link

ja hätte ich machen können aber nun habe ich vom iso installiert die Idee ist aber nicht schlecht ..

# oui @ Tue, 07 Nov 2017 15:28:06 UTC link

von der iso zu installieren ist sowieso vieeeeeel einfacher!

vermutlich auch direkt aus dem Web, wenn man eine SliTaz-CD (selbstgebrannt) hat, auch eine alte geht in dem Fall (oder gar nur eine Floppy, falls man noch so was an seinem Rechner benutzen kann! Siehe in wiki.slitaz.org die Seite zu den ungewöhnlichen Installationsmethoden (ich habe gerade SliTaz64, mit 64bit-Kernel, voll installiert, wie vorgeschlagen im Verzeichnis /var/slitaz meiner Devuan-Vollinstallation)! Alles ohne CD/DVD oder gar Floppy...

Übrigens: In Live-CDs passiert es oft, dass das gestarte System voll funktionsfähig ist, aber keine Nutzungsrechte an der/den Festplatte(n) bekommt, sonst könnte man bei Arbeitgeber viel zu leicht die Systeme verändern, und durch Löschen / Überschreiben falsche Tatsachen schaffen... Beim Kauf muß sich der Einkäufer entspr. beraten lassen!

Nichts dagegen, in der offiziellen Mittagspause ein SliTax live Betrieb zu nutzen (*1 , und "nur" das Internetvolumen des Arbeitgebers privat zu belegen (man kann über Internet mehr installieren! Und noch viel mehr...). Aber Datenbanken usw. vom Arbeitsplatz sind Tabu! Und das ergibt einen Sinn, dass man aus live nicht lesen noch schreiben kann...

(*1 mit unter 50 Mb passt SliTaz 32 bit auf einer Kredittkarten-CD! Das war lang die größte Sorge von Puppy-Linux! Die letzte war eine Puppy-Version sogar der Reihe 3. (heute gar nicht mehr zeitgemäß, Reihe 4 ist schon "hart" genug) abgemagert mit SVA-Grafik von einem chinesischen Mitglied.

Check Upgrades = 268 files

# roadkill13 @ Thu, 02 Nov 2017 02:14:49 UTC link

I decided to do a clean install of the most recent slitaz-rolling.iso. When I booted into my pristine system I recharged the package list as usual and then selected check upgrades following the recharge. Imagine my surprise when I was presented with 268 files to update. The files presented for update are the same versions that are already present on the system. What happened?

# mojo @ Thu, 02 Nov 2017 05:37:41 UTC link

I booted into full core using Slitaz-rolling 2017_05_27 which is over 5 months old.
Out of 267 installed packages after recharge there are 40 available updates
21 are version upgrades and 19 are new builds.
New builds are same package version currently installed but they have been rebuilt. Normally it is due to a commit that fix's a problem with the package that triggers the rebuild.
On Slitaz a new build is triggered when the md5sum of the installed package(installed.md5) is different than the md5sum of the same package on the mirror(packages.md5).

# Ceel @ Thu, 02 Nov 2017 07:55:39 UTC link

see http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/tazpkg-953-in-slitaz-rolling-20171015

not possible to connect with openstreetmap.org using Potlatch2

# oui @ Thu, 02 Nov 2017 16:36:44 UTC link

I am accustomed to use Potlatch2. I did reinstall yesterday SliTaz64 (fresh download) where all works perfectly (excepted I did not find the place to enter my keyboard layout, it is "us intl" and have to do it each restart with the command setxkbmap. setxkbmap works, but it is not necessary in other distros to do that each restart, if the right layout is registered! but our applications/preferences/keyboard mapping does not allow direct entries :'-( . Analog, I don't find the way to start ibus / ibus_hangul : they are 3 items to find in system tools>ibus the one, and preferences>ibus-hangul preferencies and preferences>ibus the to other. hitting on them produces absolutely no action!).

Potlatch2 needs libflashplugin.so. It is also fresh install through get-flash-player. Xombrero is also installed (works perfect, excepted that) all 3 browser (tazweb, midori and xombrero) crash if you start Potlatch2 from the free movement openstreetmap!

Treiber für intel 82852/855GM

# opeth @ Thu, 02 Nov 2017 20:09:41 UTC link

Hallo,

Da ich 3d testen ich möchte.
xf86-video-intel habe ich schon installiert aber das scheint nichts zu bewirken .
Was muss ich installieren und muss man bestimmt auch noch Xorg.conf editieren oder so ?

Klar ist die Grafikkarte nicht optimal zum spielen aber es soll ja auch erst mal nur eine Übung sein.
Sinn der Sache ist es später mal mit besser Hardware Flightgear zu installieren ...

# kultex @ Fri, 03 Nov 2017 13:04:40 UTC link

http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:xorg-xvesa

# oui @ Wed, 08 Nov 2017 13:57:50 UTC link

kein Problem, wenn Dein PC ungefähr wie meins reagiert: in der Konzole

tazx

eingeben, und die Anweisungen folgen (entweder lässt Du das System selber finden, oder Du steuerst es nach der Intel-Option! Es geht so schnell, kannst hintereinander probieren, zuerst suchen lassen, und wenn gut so belassen: Du wirst sowieso sehen, was dann das System installiert).

Danach am besten kurz restart!

Damit werden auch alle Abhängigkeiten korrekt mitinstalliert...

netstart according to http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:netstart

# oui @ Fri, 03 Nov 2017 10:11:13 UTC link

this instructions are for those using CD or FD.

a/ is that also possible through an adequate entry in /.../grub/grub.cfg ?

b/ if yes,

how to continue installing from this the started session the installation in

b1/ dedicated partition

b2/ dedicated directory ( http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:uncommoninst , item Subdirectory install in a Posix filesystem (Item is not refered in the Table of content of that wiki page). Why Posix system?)

# oui @ Fri, 03 Nov 2017 10:13:48 UTC link

oh! I see http://doc.slitaz.org/en:handbook:installation#grub-boot-loader is only for the old old old grub! excuse me! do adequate...

what is with /etc/X11/xorg.conf

# oui @ Fri, 03 Nov 2017 23:25:44 UTC link

my /etc/X11/xorg.conf contains actually after restart:

cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
# You can put here your own Xorg configurations. This config file is read
# before all files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d and will NOT be erased by any
# updates.
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
Option "XkbVariant" "intl"
EndSection

but nothing happens if i use the special keys ( see pls https://www.inputking.com/ ! and select "European language" ! This is a real subset of us intl !

ok, I can use inputking (in Browser with dictionary use, spell check is possible! This is very simple to setup in /etc/xombrero.conf if you use xombrero, a kind of tiny extension here to tazweb)... but it would be better to have a real us intl keyboard (us accentos available in the fest selections proposed by SliTaz (why fest and not a free open entry field? The most users know the code of her keyboard themself!) is good for commando line but in graphic mode it is absolutely not comparable!).

# kultex @ Mon, 06 Nov 2017 08:50:50 UTC link

You have to check the log files, because the keyboard is defined by slitaz own scripts -I think dmesg, boot.log and xorg.0.log should tell you, what is happening.

Now xorg.conf is more or less obsolete...... maybe xorg.conf.d is overruling xorg.conf

Maybe after boot, log out of X and start X new....

Sorry, have no time to check it now....

# oui @ Tue, 07 Nov 2017 15:35:48 UTC link

Thank you Kultex

Perhaps would it be good, to erase the head comment in xorg.conf to avoid that experience?

How to use start up commands in lxde (like in jwm: jwm users have better - the paragraph start up command in .jwmrc continue to be available for those jobs!

# kultex @ Tue, 07 Nov 2017 20:07:22 UTC link

it was a quite short transition time from xorg.conf to xorg.conf.d - like in slitaz-next, there is no more xorg.conf.

The file is created by the xorg package and nobody removed it.......

and concentration it on slitaz-next - so I think nobody will remove it....

# oui @ Wed, 08 Nov 2017 13:51:30 UTC link

I understand: I did insist because some rare distros continue to use xorg and xorg.conf (I am myself favorable: the use of splitted X settings is not uniform any in all Linux and it is for this important reason a completely wrong evolution; same thing for grub! I use the one version from NutyX (probably the same as LFS as NutyX is only a compiled LFS, now with an independant own package management) because it is so easy and simple to use!)

Are 64 bit kernel yet available for next (I see no one at mirror.slitaz.org)?

I hope next will be equiped with a "SliTaz-Next-From-Scratch"...

And that the settings fields like for keyboard, time, etc will all include an oppen entry field and not those uggly prepared but never complete roll options! As I did remark, it is clear for people out so far countries like China (for ex. for the Chinese maintener of the site https://www.inputking.com/ that the really universal keyboard layout is "us intl" and it is not offered until yet by the possible selections of SliTaz!). It would be a great progress if the people designing "dialogs" would write at the bottom of the dialog which file is concerned! It would be a really opened way to help the users, especially because more and more users of SliTaz are not user of the 3 selected Swiss languages plus English and Russian any more. And for the other languages, the way to a complete documentation in all languages is really far... And all menu items are not so clear in all situations!

# kultex @ Wed, 08 Nov 2017 14:08:25 UTC link

and for autostart commands you have different possibilities..

for keyboard:

/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/40-Keyboard.conf and then .xinitrc

described here http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/how-to-switch-a-keyboard-layout-in-slitaz

then the general autostart command from openbox / lxde:

SliTaz 5.0 (rolling) /home/tux/.config/openbox/autostart.sh

you can create the openbox/autostart.sh in SliTaz-next, but it does not work - in SliTaz-next it must be in

/home/tux/.config/lxsession/LXDE/autostart

and then of course you have the slitaz autostart script

/etc/init.d/local.sh

# oui @ Wed, 08 Nov 2017 15:43:20 UTC link

oh, thank you very much! those explanations would be good in a wiki page: if you make a Google search in the SliTaz sites all, you get 10 ten (ten begin with "t" as "t"error! terror if you have to search through 10 Google pages your luck!). and the most, about all, to the SliTaz forum, the most of them special situations...

if "next" would get lxqt instead of lxde, it would be possible to use lxqt on jwm instead of openbox! for old SliTaz users as I it would be a great advantage: They are accostumed with the use of jwm as jwm was the initial standard wm of SliTaz, along years and years: They know how to manage trays of jwm, how to show a background picture only using jwm, jwm can that!, how to insert a startup command into .jwmrc etc.

and the size of jwm smaller as the size of openbox!

perhaps that lxde+openbox is not smaller as lxqt+jwm if you prefer qt app's in other details of the system architecture as qt become now more and more the established standard...

(I did use that combination in Lubuntu. The use of openbox in Lxqt stay/is also possible!)

as my email box did not work in midori, tazweb or xombrero, I did install in SliTaz the small wine package from SliTaz and, in it, QtWeb + AngelWriter + nPOPQ French version. QtWeb is extremly small! AngelWriter, the free Russian package has a size, it is nothing! same for the email client nPOPQ with lem (the html viewer from nPOPQ)... Linux applications are often elephantical!

I hope SliTaz next would not install doublets like it is yes the case in version 5. In the past, SliTaz did decide to use "nano". Nano works really pretty with graphic environment, different of the other linux console mode text editors! and there is a vi (why? nobody is free enough to say, "SliTaz did decide nano; who will more, can install more with the tazpkg!"). I would cancel vi and beaver and limit the offer of a tazpackage...

idem epdf: some other packages are dependent from qpdf etc.! why to install somewhat, what not all users would need?

# kultex @ Wed, 08 Nov 2017 16:49:28 UTC link

not yet decided, but already in preparation.....

http://hg.slitaz.org/wok-next/log?rev=lxqt

and you can make the wiki page....

How to configure firewall with an hosted OS (AROS)?

# Pasquale @ Sun, 05 Nov 2017 14:15:22 UTC link

Hi all, as in the title i have a problem to configure the firewall to do a working network connection with an hosted OS, AROS, a sort of modern AmigaOS 3.x clone.
The first steps are:

tunctl -b -u aros -t aros0
ifconfig aros0 192.168.0.20

where "aros" is the current user that runs AROS.
Now inside AROS is to set IP to 192.168.0.188 and gateway to 192.168.0.20 and dns's any working (e.g. 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4). Always inside AROS running Amiga shell and after type "ping 192.168.0.188" and "ping 192.168.0.20" they work but when i try to "ping 8.8.8.8" or "ping http://www.google.com/" do not work. I am almost sure has to be configured the firewall, a similar solution (that work with other distro's) does not work:

iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE
sysctl -w net/ipv4/ip_forward=1

where "eth1" is my active network interface. Any ideas? Thanks!

Linux packages for kernel 2.6.37 in the cooking repository

# Ceel @ Sun, 05 Nov 2017 17:00:24 UTC link

Hi,

Searching for a linux kernel in the cooking repository, I can see that all linux-libre packages are 2.6.37.
In the stable repository these packages are named linux-libre-*****-2.6.37-libre.tazpkg (linux-libre-*****-2.6.37-gnu.tazpkg in cooking).
Strange, isn't it?

# kultex @ Mon, 06 Nov 2017 08:28:48 UTC link

Yep indeed - I think that wok from 4.0 was copied to 5.0 and nobody deleted Linux-Libre-kernel......

If you search the history of wok, it goes back to 2007.... and development of 5.0 started in 2011, i think......

How to use a mobile phone as a USB modem?

# Ceel @ Sun, 05 Nov 2017 19:15:43 UTC link

Hi,

I'd like to use my mobile (Samsung A5) as aUSB modem to connect to the internet.
I did it with another distro; well, I connected it and it's worked ;-)
But I really don't see what I have to do in SliTaz (rolling).

Can someone help me? Thanks.

# Pasquale @ Sun, 05 Nov 2017 19:23:13 UTC link

Ensure that tethering usb is enabled on your mobile device; as root type:

udhcpc -i usb0

# kultex @ Sun, 05 Nov 2017 19:32:25 UTC link

do you really want to use USB-Tethering?

you can also set up a WLAN-Hotspot in the same menue of your Android Phone - its much more conveniant.......

# Ceel @ Sun, 05 Nov 2017 19:54:47 UTC link

Thanks both of you,

@Pasquale,
yes:
# udhcpc -i usb0
udhcpc: started, v1.27.2
udhcpc: sending discover
udhcpc: sending select for 192.168.42.78
udhcpc: lease of 192.168.42.78 obtained, lease time 3600

@kultex,
unfortunately this old computer has no Wi-Fi card :(

# Ceel @ Sun, 05 Nov 2017 20:03:49 UTC link

OK, I did it!

In TazPanel > Network > Ethernet
In Configuration, select usb0
Click [Start]

or from a terminal as root:

ifconfig eth0 down
ifconfig usb0 up
leafpad /etc/network.conf

and remplace
INTERFACE="eth0" by INTERFACE="usb0";
save and quit, then
/etc/init.d/network.sh restart

EDIT: no need to load the module usbserial; the modules ndis_host, cdc_ether and usbnet are automatically loaded when connecting the A5.

Gparted 0.30 !

# sonycrokett2000 @ Mon, 06 Nov 2017 09:42:19 UTC link

Bonjour à tous les membres,
Gparted n'a plus évolué depuis un petit moment au sein de SliTaz (0.27) alors que la dernière version est actuellement la 0.30 !
elle corrige de nombreux bugs et il serait vraiment intéressant de l'avoir dans l'iso comme d'habitude.
D'avance merci beaucoup pour cette mise à jour (gparted-0.30.tazpkg) qui j'en suis sur sera dispo sous peu !
Cordialement,
SC.

Problem with USB WIFI adapter SWEEX LW 163, Slitaz rolling core

# dioponhe @ Tue, 07 Nov 2017 19:33:28 UTC link

Hello,

I have installed Slitaz rolling core, but Slitaz can not recognise the usb wireless adapter. The usb wifi adapter is SWEEX LW 163. I search it and found this site https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Sweex_LW163. It referring to rt2800usb.

please give me some advice to run the usb wifi adapter.

Thank you.

# Ceel @ Tue, 07 Nov 2017 23:23:08 UTC link

rt2800 is built as module:
zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i rt2800usb
CONFIG_RT2800USB=m
CONFIG_RT2800USB_RT33XX=y
CONFIG_RT2800USB_RT35XX=y
CONFIG_RT2800USB_RT53XX=y
CONFIG_RT2800USB_UNKNOWN=y

Open a terminal as root and type:
modprobe rt2800usb
then restart the network:
/etc/init.d/network.sh restart

Open TazPanel, select Network > Wireless
Click [Start]; the list of the wireless networks should be displayed. Select yours and configure it.

# dioponhe @ Wed, 08 Nov 2017 15:47:42 UTC link

I tried it, but I got the error message you can see in the image.

I post the dmesg output too, maybe it is helpful.

[attachment=45731,2607]

# dioponhe @ Wed, 08 Nov 2017 15:48:49 UTC link

dmesg

# Ceel @ Wed, 08 Nov 2017 19:59:45 UTC link

Strange. It seems linux-wireless is not or bad installed. Re-install it:
tazpkg -gi linux-wireless --forced
Then try to load again the module as decribed in my first post.

# mojo @ Wed, 08 Nov 2017 20:25:46 UTC link

Sweex LW63 177f:0163 first added to rt2800usb with kernel version 3.9
Linux slitaz 3.2.71-slitaz is older than kernel 3.9 so it does not have support for 177f:0163
My package has rt2800usb back-ported from kernel version 4.0 includes support for 177f:0163
tux@slitaz:~$ grep -i 177f.*0163 /lib/modules/3.2.71-slitaz/modules.alias
alias usb:v177Fp0163d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip* rt2800usb
Open terminal,login as root
tazpkg install rt2800usb-3.2.71.tazpkg
modprobe rt2800usb

# dioponhe @ Wed, 08 Nov 2017 22:21:36 UTC link

Thank you for your advise.

I'm a step further to connect but, I can't scan for a network.
See the images and text below.

ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00_set_rf: Info - RF chipset 000b detected
ieee80211 phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'minstrel_ht'
Registered led device: rt2800usb-phy0::radio
Registered led device: rt2800usb-phy0::assoc
Registered led device: rt2800usb-phy0::quality
usbcore: registered new interface driver rt2800usb
ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00lib_request_firmware: Info - Loading firmware file 'rt2870.bin'
ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00lib_request_firmware: Info - Firmware detected - version: 0.29
ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready

[attachment=45737,2610] [attachment=45737,2611] [attachment=45737,2612] [attachment=45737,2613]

# dioponhe @ Thu, 09 Nov 2017 20:21:22 UTC link

It seems that the driver and firmware is installed but in the WiFi administration the start button is disabled. The network scan does not give results.

Any idea how to fix it?

# kultex @ Fri, 10 Nov 2017 09:47:19 UTC link

Try it with slitaz next. - I recently tried a rt2800 USB device and it was working without any problems....

It is already useable - what is missing is a Mail Client - you have to use webmail at the moment - Pascal tried to compile claws, but it is broken

# dioponhe @ Sun, 12 Nov 2017 19:47:55 UTC link

Ok, with Slitaz nex it is working.

Best Slitaz version for Intel i5-3470 quad core and 8Gb ram?

# TraceE @ Wed, 08 Nov 2017 05:11:50 UTC link

Have just got a great deal on a 2013 Dell 7010 SFF with i5-3470 CPU and 8Gb RAM and would like to also install Slitaz.

What would be the best Slitaz version to install and what is the easiest way to frugal install alongside Windows 10 for a dual boot?

# oui @ Wed, 08 Nov 2017 15:06:10 UTC link

Slitaz is really so tiny that you probably would better use it out the ram and save the changes in you doc somewhere (I have the same equipment, DELL XPS, but no window any more... SliTaz is in a subdir of, actually, the full Devuan installation in the directory /var/slitaz as suggested in the SliTaz wiki under "uncommon installation ways"! Look at the main SliTaz page, the search icon on top right, hit on it, in the next page, you find 2 entry fields. Enter "installation" in the second one!

# TraceE @ Wed, 08 Nov 2017 16:11:40 UTC link

Are you using the 64 bit version of Slitaz?

# oui @ Thu, 09 Nov 2017 10:30:26 UTC link

yes, of course, but it is only made of a 64 bit kernel, the app's are 32 app's as for the main distribution! to start, I use grubPC (grub2)

menuentry "[" { linux /@ }

menuentry "Slitaz" { set root=(hd0,6)
linux /var/slitaz/boot/bzImage64 mount=/dev/sda6 subroot=var/slitaz ro quiet #screen=text
initrd /var/slitaz/boot/rootfs.gz }

menuentry "Devuan" {set root=(hd0,6)
linux /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda6 ro quiet
initrd /boot/initrd.img }

my partitions:

sda1 = boot partition
sda2 = old windows partition, today freeDos or ReactOS test installation
sda3 = extended
sda5 = chroot
sda6 = all the rest (Linux)
sda4 = swap

menuentry "[" { linux /@ } is a quirky linux (= puppy linux) all in the kernel (only 1 unique file, the BIG kernel file with, in it, all the linux system including all applications!). if you include an willing error in the other grub entries, nobody understand what happens, but you can start quirky with this short line... but you have to reduce the selections of external devices in your BIOS. how all that can matter with Windows, I don't know!

the commented part # screen=text (is on the same line without # character!) is for a console mode start if the start of SliTaz in X-VGA doesn't work properly (for ex. appears but no loggin! is usual problem with intel stuff...). you can start in console mode, log in as root/root and immediately invoque "tasx" to better set up your xorg installation!

# TraceE @ Fri, 10 Nov 2017 08:18:47 UTC link

To save time I decided to just go with the latest 64bit Debian live with LXDE.

Would rather it was Slitaz though but not got enough time just now to sort out snags with Slitaz 64 and next.

Thanks for your suggestions though ... still using Slitaz for my laptops ... :)

# oui @ Fri, 10 Nov 2017 09:56:50 UTC link

Can you use Debian live without restriction on your PC? On my PC. it don't will write on the Harddisk if starting from HD through Grub (starting from DVD / CD is ok but my old and dirty drive doesn't be able to do that. USB stick probably also but I never use sticks any more: they did cause terrible loose of data, and, since this time, never more! I have a big HD and it has to be enough for absolutely all purposes...)...

Using a system like Quirky-all-in-the-kernel is as safe as a DVD or stick, not one bit will be saved after the session, excepted those you did save yourself explicitly, but it is, after the unpacking and put in the RAM, maximal fast!

The second choices would be the Debian-Dogs: they are probably 100 % Debian compatible (are Debian live, absolutely no Puppies, but with an architecture near of the one of Puppy, can handle as layered file system with great extension's packages like Puppy, a French student did for ex. build out Slax, an other interesting small distro, a KDE4 package like in Slax (Slax start always out the KDE since 2..4 y, I don't know any more), that is really a great and big extension to the old LXDE-Puppy it did amend. Too old today, but the KDE4 package is yet interessting to be added to an other system...). This means that you can immediately add each Debian package without restriction "on the fly" using synaptic (or apt, of course!) you need rarely. The limit: each day to install on the fly is not really an agreable job! And that is exactly what happens with all the «live's» excepted those with an special architecture to grow modular. A German hobby coder did create in the Puppy community such an architecture for a German school using more than 100 PC at the school with the old pupils (15..18 y.). It starts minimal analog to SliTaz, if online, can immediately require from a depository one of more than 400 great packages (complete set of graphic app's, or complete set of sound or multimedia app's, or the programming environment for Lazarus, Lazarus programming did give the name of that linie of special Puppy's in the first time for scientific, mathematic and technic stuff at school, Lazzy Puppy, or kdenlive etc.) as squahed system staying after that resident on the PC. next time no download any more for this big package: only unsquash! As soon it is unsquashed, it is already bound, also services like special screen accelerators etc, and it can bind an in fact unlimited quantity of those extensions. but the start become at a certain point unpleasant as the unsquash of all the stuff cost time. in a class room, you need each hour of the day a limited scope of applications per hour. if you are an old retired mann, you will need a complete bibliothek of applications along the day and if you will have them resident on the PC, you have to install them really resident... it depends of the point of view...

Perhaps you can handle analog with the SliTaz extensions in SliTaz flavors.

But, of course, you have to spend a bit time to investigate and compare those system and facts like the consumtion of time can only be compared through a long time of use and experimentation!

# TraceE @ Fri, 10 Nov 2017 11:31:43 UTC link

I installed the latest Debian Stretch live + nonfree drivers/firmware from a hybrid .iso to a 16Gb USB3 pendrive using mkusb to install and create persistence.

The whole process was very straight forward ... the persistence is working perfectly and the whole system is super fast running from RAM.

No restrictions here at all ... and it is very similar in looks and use to Slitaz as it uses LXDE ... :)

py3k and py3k3 seems have problem with its IDLE

# Syn_thinnes-terin @ Thu, 09 Nov 2017 12:22:46 UTC link

Hey guys, thanks for your great reply to my first post regarding Python 3. Sorry for quite weird intro since I have no idea.

Anyway, responding to my first post: http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/package-request-python3 (in the last reply), I have successfully open python3 in Terminal. But when it's come to opening IDLE GUI of Python 3 (py3k and py3k3), it didn't work at all. I get this message when tried to open Terminal (this way I could find exact cause of error):

Bell@Gundam:~$ idle3
** IDLE can't support Tkinter.
Your Python may not be configured for Tk. **

Also, upon deep research regarding this problem, it seems rooted from broken package of icedtea6-jdk. You can check it out here: http://cook.slitaz.org/py3k. I don't want to sound harsh, but is there a way to solve this problem such as update this package or any solution that seems useful? I love to use SliTaz since it is powerful despite it's nano size and I hope we can improve SliTaz so that many people who want to revive back their old computer and hobbyist would benefit the harness of powerful smally SliTaz.

Currently, I am using Puppy Linux as temporarily solution to this problem and I can use Python 2 and 3 without problem. However, at the same time, I miss SliTaz since I can do more with it and it is easier for me to use it rather than what I am currently use right now. Hopefully, when we found the solution of it, I would gladly reinstall my laptop with SliTaz. Thanks for take your time reading this message and please don't expect speedy reply from me since I am going to prepare for my important exam. :)

# Syn_thinnes-terin @ Thu, 09 Nov 2017 12:42:40 UTC link

Update: Seems this problem also was caused by incomplete download of icedtea6-jdk package. Have a look here: http://cook.slitaz.org/py3k?pkg=icedtea6-jdk

Debug information
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Cook date: 2017-09-25 19:29
Cook time: 2678s
then echo "ERROR: Bad download of jaxp drop zip"; false;
then echo "ERROR: Bad download of jaxws drop zip"; false;
then echo "ERROR: Bad download of jaf drop zip"; false;
echo ERROR patch ${all_patches_ok} FAILED! ;
echo ERROR patch ${all_patches_ok} FAILED! ;

Result: cook failed

I think this is the main cause why py3k and py3k3 failed to cook entire packages of it, leading to broken package and failure of executing IDLE GUI. Seems there someone need to make a deep investigation of it and fix this so icedtea6-jdk would successfully cook and py3k and py3k3 could be recook back in order to properly cook the packages and execute IDLE.

Realtek rtl8723be. WiFi not working

# Mich-C @ Fri, 10 Nov 2017 16:00:10 UTC link

Hi guys.
WiFi doesn't work on my 64bit laptop.
The wifi card is a "realtek rtl8723be".
(My laptop Wifi doesn't work even on all the popular distributions... :( )

Please Can anyone help me to download the correct driver and install it?

# Mich-C @ Sat, 11 Nov 2017 01:07:04 UTC link

Ok, so I downloaded the zip file containing the driver and I successfully extracted it.
But now I can't install the driver.
A website advices to:
1)drag and drop the exacted folder in the terminal
2)use the "make" and "make install" commands

but these methods don't work in Slitaz!! :(

Anyway the driver seems to be made of .c and .h files...

# mojo @ Sat, 11 Nov 2017 01:23:31 UTC link

tazpkg -gi slitaz-toolchain
tazpkg -gi linux-module-headers

# Mich-C @ Tue, 28 Nov 2017 00:01:50 UTC link

Hi mojo sorry for the late reply but I had problem with my forum-account.
I tryed over 10 linux distros and none of them include the driver for this wifi card :( so the only thing to do is to compile and install this driver manually.
Last time I tryed to do so, I was using a Debian-based distro and I solved the problem :)
So now I can do the same on Slitaz but at the moment I don't have time for testing it (anyway I think it will work)

P.S. if someone on the forum has problems installing this driver can contact me, because I discovered a bug in the other distro, I had to add a little .conf file with a few parameters in it
P.S.S.maybe Slitaz won't have this problem

Timidity++ dependency fail

# stecca @ Sat, 11 Nov 2017 10:59:21 UTC link

After install, running timidity from CLI results in error:

timidity: error while loading shared libraries: libdb-6.2.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Install of libdb resolves the issue, but this library should be listed in timidity dependencies.

Request: Timidity++ add other interfaces

# stecca @ Sat, 11 Nov 2017 11:10:25 UTC link

timidity++ MIDI file player comes with many interfaces, but some of them must be explicitly enabled in the compiling command.

The timidity++ version packaged for Slitaz was compiled without enabling that interfaces, eg the useful -in Ncurses interface

Please note: in some package system (eg Debian) the additional interfaces stand in a separate package (timidity-interfaces-extra)

small problems with sound in learning languages with Book2

# oui @ Mon, 13 Nov 2017 10:41:47 UTC link

I use intensive the free online teachering software for other languages like:

http://www.goethe-verlag.com/book2/EN/ENRU/ENRU028.HTM

(you can use EACH pair of languages and exercise so we pair of languages you did learn but not often use and so exercise at the same time in TWO languages! There are 2 different domains:

- sentences

- vocabulary

- sound files downloadable for 1 language as well as for language each pairs that you can listen driving in your car etc. (*1

With sound, with hidden parts of text to exercise very intensive, with best writing in the original alphabet and with best pronunciations help over the sounds!

But ...

... if I repeat twice times the same element (sentence or word), the sound is only correct at the first time and at each repetition, the begin of the sound is short!

What can be the reason? How to avoid that?

Example of word learning:

http://www.goethe-verlag.com/book2/_VOCAB/EN/ENPL/20.HTM

(as far as I know, the prosed books are not free but they are available for each pair of language as they are "printed on demand" out the computer system!)

(*1 if I good remember, see the actual statement of conditions, the use of the sound part of the work is absolutely not restricted: you can reuse the sounds also differently! it is a extremely generous option (perhaps the author did get that work from partner with different mother tongues also free and transmit the conditions? But, please, verify the actual conditions of use at the download time if you will reuse the sounds!)

(*2 book2 doesn't treat the writing. But if you want to write, you perhaps need an special input methode. The

https://www.inputking.com

is a great help (pls resize the editor field if you need, it is easy!). If your browser support an spell control, it works in the inputking editor!). Input king is also a good help in other software, different from this forum (you can also resize the editor window of the SliTaz forum!), offering only a to small editor window! Edit in inputking and drag / drop into the other application!

(*3 I would like to find a kind of InputKing for Arabic, Urdu, Hebrew etc.! If you perhaps know one, pls, short msg here...

EDUROAM/PEAP/SLITAZ/UNIV:SOS!

# lm2 @ Mon, 13 Nov 2017 11:20:50 UTC link

hi people

first, understand : as a student, eduroam :
avoid to authenticate manually via portal (userID/pass)
authenticates automatically in PEAP/TTLS/something else
with secured wifi
with different auth methods even with the same credentials in diff univs

my problem :
andro/ios authenticates well at the same place
slitaz doesnt
cannot use embedded/builtedin slitaz wifi manager :
EDUROAM uses identities to login, as username/password, in PEAP for me

==> so i use wpa_supplicant 'cause i can't use anything else with slitaz (it's not PSK-like auth)

here is the whole log :
https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/4Z0neVTgJ7slLh8zYb7PCQ

here is the error message :

wlan0: CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED bssid=00:f6:63:e1:99:b1 reason=3 locally_generated=1

here are hw info :

01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
Linux 3.2.71-slitaz #4 SMP Sun Aug 21 16:28:25 CEST 2016 i686 GNU/Linux

here are eduroam info:

Cell 07 - Address: 00:F6:63:CC:64:31
Channel:1
Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1)
Quality=46/70 Signal level=-64 dBm

Encryption key:on
ESSID:"eduroam"
Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s
11 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
Bit Rates:24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
Mode:Master
Extra:tsf=0000035293e05219
Extra: Last beacon: 1072ms ago
IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1
Group Cipher : CCMP
Pairwise Ciphers (1) : CCMP
Authentication Suites (1) : 802.1x

here are third-part info:
i can't use another laptop for the moment
i can't recompile kernel
i got two androIoS devices connecting well at the same place
i triyed lot of things even with certificates
credential are RIGHT

so if somebody knows why this error message...

save me.. save my laptop/connection.. thank you :)

# mojo @ Mon, 13 Nov 2017 18:34:12 UTC link

The wpa_supplicant log indicates your not providing a ca.pem to the server.
Every schools web site with eduroam has a page that includes a download link for their unique ca.pem and instructions on how to configure wpa_supplicant.conf to connect to their network.

This is wpa_supplicant.conf used to connect to OSU eduroam:
network={
ssid="eduroam"
key_mgmt=WPA-EAP
pairwise=CCMP
group=CCMP TKIP
eap=PEAP
ca_cert="/home/tux/certificates/ca.pem"
identity="${USER_NAME}"
domain_suffix_match="wireless.osu.edu"
phase2="auth=MSCHAPV2"
password="${PASSWORD}"
}

# lm2 @ Tue, 14 Nov 2017 15:50:02 UTC link

mojo : my univ provides only for win/mac/andro/ios instruction, not wpa_supp', so no certificate given..
i'm using my android tab/phones to connect using eduroam conf and ID from another university, and it's working...

how could i change that?
how could i have a common certificate for all univ?

i have to change manually, in command line, the certificate when i switch from a univ to another one?

it's something.. please help...

¿Cómo ordenar las opciones de salida del entorno gráfico? (SliTaz 4.0)

# tazaymedia @ Wed, 15 Nov 2017 21:58:59 UTC link

Muy buenas!

En SliTaz 4.0, siempre que pulso en "Salir" (botón situado en el extremo derecho del panel superior), me aparecen las siguientes opciones y por el siguiente orden:

1. "Close X session : exit".
2. "Reboot system : reboot".
3. "Shutdown system : halt".

¿Cómo puedo hacer para cambiar el orden y que me aparezca como primera opción, por ejemplo, "Shutdown system : halt"?

Saludos y gracias!!

# Ceel @ Wed, 15 Nov 2017 23:07:50 UTC link

http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/slitaz-logout-halt#post-18142

# rerivero @ Wed, 15 Nov 2017 23:20:41 UTC link

Si lo quieres poner en español, aqui podes ver como hacerlo

http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/some-missing-translations/page/2

# tazaymedia @ Thu, 16 Nov 2017 17:49:48 UTC link

@Ceel Muchas gracias. No había visto ese post y la verdad es que es muy fácil editando el archivo /usr/bin/tazbox y cambiando el orden de las entradas del logout. Así lo he hecho :-)

@rerivero Interesante ese post, no solo para la traducción de cuadro de diálogo del logout, sino para traducir muchas otras partes del sistema. He visto ahí que @mojo compartió unas traducciones para sakura, pero no entiendo muy bien cuál de estos dos paquetes habría que instalar:

http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/some-missing-translations/page/2?bb_attachments=29374&bbat=1411
http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/some-missing-translations/page/2?bb_attachments=30058&bbat=1493

Y, por cierto, ahora una duda de usuario novato de SliTaz: Si alguien tradujo esa aplicación, ¿por qué no se subió a los repos oficiales? ¿Existen repos no oficiales de SliTaz para este tipo de cosas?

Saludos y gracias!!

liveusb - put the rootfs.gz on the HD

# moulefrite @ Thu, 16 Nov 2017 03:32:00 UTC link

For the sake of booting time, i was wondering if it was possible to put the rootfs.gz somewhere else (the HD) than the usb

here us the syslinux.cfg

LABEL slitaz
MENU LABEL SliTaz Live
KERNEL /boot/bzImage
APPEND initrd=/boot/rootfs.gz rw root=/dev/null vga=normal autologin

# kultex @ Thu, 16 Nov 2017 09:48:23 UTC link

yes, no problem...

I use it only like this - but you have to install grub4dos or grub on your hard disk...

http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:frugal#traditional-frugal-install

Slitaz,NAT,KVM

# v-poned @ Thu, 16 Nov 2017 18:06:41 UTC link

Put slitaz as a virtual machine using kvm. Debian 9. Slitaz does not see the network as NAT, and I don't know what to do with it. Please explain step by step how I should act.

Поставил слитаз в качестве виртуальной машины используя kvm. Дистрибутив debian 9. Слитаз не видит сеть NAT, и я не знаю, что с этим сделать. Пожалуйста, объясните пошагово, как мне действовать.

Sauvegarde de la langue et du clavier

# Nabuchodonosor @ Thu, 16 Nov 2017 20:06:52 UTC link

Bonsoir.
Je n'arrive pas à sauvegarder d'une connexion à l'autre la langue et le clavier.
Je suis en SliTaz GNU/Linux - 5.0-RC4 20171116

Lancement grub :
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.71-slitaz root=/dev/sda7 lang=fr kmap=fr_FR quiet

Script de démarrage : Loading console keymap: fr_FR Impossible d'ouvrir le fichier fr_FR

/etc/keymap.conf : fr_FR

/etc/kmap.conf :
export lang=fr
export kmap=fr_FR@euro

/etc/locale.conf :
LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8
LC_ALL=fr_FR.UTF-8
export LANG LC_ALL

Quelqu'un peut-il m'indiquer un post qui explique la manip ou m'indiquer comment sauvegarder.
Merci

# Ceel @ Thu, 16 Nov 2017 20:57:02 UTC link

kernel /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.71-slitaz root=/dev/sda7 lang=fr_FR kmap=fr-latin1 quiet

# Nabuchodonosor @ Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:12:39 UTC link

Merci Ceel pour cette réponse rapide.
Elle solutionne l'erreur du script de démarrage. Mais il y a toujours le Pb de sauvegarde de mes paramètres.

# Ceel @ Fri, 17 Nov 2017 13:16:06 UTC link

Je ne comprends pas bien ton problème de sauvegarde. La ligne est exécutée systématiquement à chaque boot.

Comment utilises-tu SliTaz ? Live, frugal ou full installation ?
D'ailleurs, maintenant que j'y pense, sur une full installation, tu n'as pas besoin de ces paramètres dans la ligne kernel. La question est posée au premier boot et ensuite ta config est mémorisée.

# Nabuchodonosor @ Fri, 17 Nov 2017 14:10:02 UTC link

J'ai installé Slitaz sur mon disque dur donc avec possibilité de sauvegarde.
J'ai déployé "SliTaz GNU/Linux Rolling (43 MB) - slitaz-rolling.iso".

Dans /var/log/dmesg.log message j'ai :

sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4 < sda5 sda6 sda7 sda8 sda9 sda10 sda11 sda12 sda13 sda14 sda15 >
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
EXT3-fs (sda7): error: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (240)
EXT4-fs (sda7): couldn't mount as ext2 due to feature incompatibilities
EXT4-fs (sda7): INFO: recovery required on readonly filesystem
EXT4-fs (sda7): write access will be enabled during recovery
EXT4-fs (sda7): recovery complete
EXT4-fs (sda7): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
VFS: Mounted root (ext4 filesystem) readonly on device 8:7.

Le système est installé en sda7 formaté en ext4 avec gparted. sda7 est un disque SATA.
Une seule chose que je n'ai pas faite : la ligne de commande dans chacun des .profile ; je ne sais d'ailleurs pas si cela fonctionnerai. mais je préférerai comprendre et centralisé le positionnement de cette conf qui est ma conf par défaut.

Voilà.
Merci à tous pour les pistes et à Ceel pour son temps passé.

Martin

# Ceel @ Fri, 17 Nov 2017 21:45:34 UTC link

Bonsoir Nabuchodonosor,

EXT3-fs (sda7): error: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (240)

Essaye d'ajouter rootfstype=ext4 dans ta ligne kernel.

Si ton problème de sauvegarde persiste, colle le contenu de ton /var/log/boot.log sur http://paste.slitaz.org et poste le lien.

# oui @ Sat, 18 Nov 2017 19:19:42 UTC link

merci Ceel pour ces précisions que l'on se pose tous un peu, sauf ceux qui ont eu la chance de toujours pouvoir utiliser SliTaz (gestion de l'écran, et, dans une moindre mesure, des droits qui ont parfois fait barrage au localhost, et donc à l'usage de l'imprimante... pas d'écran, pas d'imprimante, pas d'utilisation possible! comme "hardinfo" arrive depuis des lunes à sonder tout ça pas mal, on se demande pourquoi on démarre toujours avec un SliTaz indocile! Actuellement, pas de problème en rolling, mais sur la next, impossible de se connecter à l'écran, pire, alors, SliTaz a pris la fusée et s'envole vers une autre galaxie, la galaxie Nirvana, et n'en reviendra pas...)

dans les SliTaz 1 et 2, le Handbook, qui était parfaitement organisé, donnait réponse à (presque) tout. Les renseignements que tu viens de donner, on (même Google, car les critères recherchés par Google ne sont pas là ou sont mal exprimés) a du mal à les trouver dans le labyrinthe de la doc en wiki, souvent très incomplète, en français entre autre, où on lit "la version initiale est ... Cette traduction est antérieure à la date de révision" (... = anglais).

Et nulle part le système ne détaille dans quel fichier texte dans /etc ou /usr/share/qq_ch sont planquées les infos qu'on lui donne dans des "dialog"ues, la pire invention, ces dialogues, depuis la création de Linux: Avant, en ligne de commande, dans la majorité des cas, on savait...

car moi aussi je cherche à ancrer mon clavier!

comme SliTaz est devenu malade de "dialog", dans le dialog "Tastaturbelegung", Nabuchodonosor semble ignorer qu'on peut parfaitement (re-)faire tout ça APRÈS le démarrage via le menu et la subdivision "Einstellungen" (en français: réglages, peut-être, c'est pourquoi je maintiens le texte original allemand: si je repasse en français, après, j'aurai peut-être moi-aussi le problème de la langue! alors, je m'abstiens, car après le passage à l'allemand, via les "Einstellungen" au menu en allemand, j'ai de l'allemand partout sans le moindre problème. Mais le dialogue clavier ne rend pas du tout possible le layout du clavier le plus international (us intl, intl est l'abréviation de international! On peut écrire le chinois romanisé officiel et presque toutes les langues occidentales en écriture latine avec ce clavier!).

alors, tous les jours, et c'est lassant au bout de 10 ans de SliTaz, je lance

setxkbmap us intl en console...

ça, aucun autre Linux ne me l'a imposé (c'était aussi comme ça dans Puppy, mais, depuis, on peut cliquer sur le champ de sélection et y inscrire n'importe quoi à la main! Et c'est idiot, car tous les layout classiques sont dans SliTaz, mais pas tous accessibles depuis le "dialog"...

ou faut-il passer via le TazPanel? En effet, je dédaigne un peu le TazPanel, habitué aux autres outils traditionnels de SliTaz (bien que TazPanel soit vraiment une merveilleuse construction, mais c'est comme l'automatique en voiture: on ne veut pas s'en rendre esclave...)

note: mon fichier /etx/X11//40-Keyboard.conf semble se trouver écrasé à chaque redémarrage, sans doute seulement pour y imposer la ligne Option "XkbOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" ! Hummmmmm...

# Nabuchodonosor @ Sat, 18 Nov 2017 21:50:20 UTC link

Ceel, je te remercie.
La modification de la ligne kernel supprime les problèmes de montage.

Puis-je trouver une explication au message "recovery required on readonly filesystem" ?

sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4 < sda5 sda6 sda7 sda8 sda9 sda10 sda11 sda12 sda13 sda14 sda15 >
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
EXT4-fs (sda7): INFO: recovery required on readonly filesystem
EXT4-fs (sda7): write access will be enabled during recovery
usb 4-3: new full-speed USB device number 2 using ohci_hcd
EXT4-fs (sda7): recovery complete
EXT4-fs (sda7): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
VFS: Mounted root (ext4 filesystem) readonly on device 8:7.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 456k freed
udevd[970]: starting version 182
EXT4-fs (sda7): re-mounted. Opts: user_xattr,acl,barrier=1,data=ordered
scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access Corsair Voyager GT 3.0 000A PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 61800448 512-byte logical blocks: (31.6 GB/29.4 GiB)
sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 2b 00 00 08
sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: disabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
sdb: sdb1
sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
EXT4-fs (sda7): re-mounted. Opts: user_xattr,acl,barrier=1,data=ordered

A part cela, je ne comprends pas tout le post de Oui.
La distrib Slitaz est excellente. Je remercie l'équipe de maintenance et la félicite.

La langue et le clavier ne sont toujours pas sauvegardés.

# Ceel @ Sun, 19 Nov 2017 14:23:16 UTC link

Bonjour Nabuchodonosor,

Je pense que le message recovery required on readonly filesystem est lié au type formatage (ext4) choisi (peut être même à la config du kernel). Mais je ne trouve rien d'explicite dessus.
Je n'utilise pas l'ext4 ; seulement ext3 car l'ext2 me pose également un problème (http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/devsda3-was-not-cleanly-unmounted-check-forced).

Comment as-tu installé SliTaz ? A partir de TazPanel ?
As-tu demandé le formatage de la partition à l'installateur ou était-elle déjà formatée ?

Ton boot.log pourrait peut-être m'éclairer.

# Nabuchodonosor @ Sun, 19 Nov 2017 21:22:59 UTC link

Bonsoir.J'ai installé Slitaz à partir de Tazpanel sans formatter la partition.
Je t'ai envoyé /var/log/boot.log hier mais je n'ai pas compris comment récupérer le lien. J'ai fait upload.
Je ré-essaye.

# Nabuchodonosor @ Sun, 19 Nov 2017 21:31:07 UTC link

Voilà je pense que c'est bon.

http://paste.slitaz.org/?56793bd4ccd0e86a#8siUt8IN8ofyW2dbprF20VC4btNxraVY60Exh0j1ID4=

# oui @ Mon, 20 Nov 2017 11:51:22 UTC link

Bonjour Nabucho

Installer SliTaz rolling (dans mon cas SliTaz64) en ligne de commande dans /var/slitaz dans une partition en ext4 (d'un linux tartempion) prend 5 minutes, y compris le téléchargement de l'iso le plus frais (pendant le téléchargement, tu ouvres le wiki à la page uncommon install's, tout en bas, pour te remémoriser les commandes...! c'est du simple copier coller dans sakura...) et après, tout ce qui n'est pas vraiment spécial (le clavier), marche!

Autre astuce est la Web install.

Mais c'est peut-être aussi une question de Grub? Moi, je ne bricole plus avec Grub et prend GrubPC dit Grub2 (de LFS, fourni par NuTyx, et comme l'installe NuTyx avec sa maintenance)...

TOUT LE TEMPS CONSACRÉ À RÉCUPÉRER / SORTIR DU FOSSÉ une installation défectueuse, alors que la réinstallation ne prend que 5 minutes, EST DU TEMPS PERDU pour toi et pour les autres qui t'aident...

réinstalle,
si utiles (X ne fonctionne pas) en option console
et, dans ce cas, fait d'abord un tazx dans ta box, puis passes à startx,
va au menu > réglages >> langue
puis menu > réglages >> layout du clavier

c'est au menu (si tu as la chance que ton clavier soit au menu, le mien n'y est pas...) tu n'auras plus de problème mais débarasse dans ton bootloader la ligne kernel de tout ce qui l'encombre inutilement sans doute: on ne règle pas un Linux dans le boot loader mais dans des fichiers de contrôle dans /etc notamment, et autres... Et à chaque démarrage, quand la ligne du bootloader est fausse, tu réinjecte autoritairement la même erreur! Comment veux-tu progresser...

Cordialement

# Nabuchodonosor @ Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:52:33 UTC link

Bonjour Oui.
Je te remercie de ces informations. Je vais explorer la piste des uncommon install dont tu me parles.
Effectivement, j'aurai passé beaucoup de temps à remettre mon install d'aplomb.

Size of the TazWeb window at start time

# oui @ Sat, 18 Nov 2017 19:33:48 UTC link

In the past, it was possible to define place and size of windows before the app starts. Is that possible (TazWeb window is very small and my view is bad. It would be bette for me to define an other size and an greater fonts size as my own standard!)

# kultex @ Sat, 18 Nov 2017 19:53:46 UTC link

I think, you have to experiment with

/home/tux/.config/tazweb/style.css

doc is attached

# oui @ Mon, 20 Nov 2017 12:28:14 UTC link

Thank you very much kultex!

other question: is a proof source for a 64-bit tazweb available (to use in an other distro, in my case Devuan. In 32 version, depending of the installed webkit etc. it is only necessary to copy the binary tazweb as in /usr/bin into the other distro at the same place and start in the console to check if all needing dependencies are in)?

What about TazWeb and spelling / spelling dictionaries?

# oui @ Sat, 18 Nov 2017 19:38:24 UTC link

Xombrero browser is about the same as TazWeb.

But Xombrero accept the definition in the settings of a line of hunspell dictionaries

I find, it is a great difference!

How to add that figure to TazWeb?

Extracting rootfs1-4.gz files

# AlXM @ Mon, 20 Nov 2017 13:15:30 UTC link

Hi,

I'm trying to add a new package, a script and several files to slitaz iso. I'm trying to do that using chroot method. In every guide I've found which explains how to extract rootfs.gz files there's only one such single file - rootfs.gz. On the iso there are actually 4 different files starting from rootfs1.gz to rootfs4.gz. How do I deal with that? If I try to uncompress them I get various error messages, like "Compressed data is corrupt".

How can I decompress the file system?

# Ceel @ Mon, 20 Nov 2017 14:31:59 UTC link

See the second note in section Extract and Install in http://doc.slitaz.org/en:handbook:installation#manual-by-hand-installation

But seems to me the cpio option should be -idu for rootfs3-2-1.gz

# AlXM @ Mon, 20 Nov 2017 15:00:04 UTC link

Thanks. It works.
Strange though that I still get "Compressed data is corrupt" at the end of each decompression even if files and directories are extracted and created.

# AlXM @ Mon, 20 Nov 2017 16:16:10 UTC link

And another question, after I finished with chroot and made necessary changes, how do I repackage it all back into rootfs1-4.gz files? I can't find it in the guide.

Thanks

# mojo @ Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:37:45 UTC link

Slitaz use busybox applets for tar,cpio,etc.. which are not completely compatible with gnu versions which can cause errors and corruption if extracting with GNU version.

Add RISCV support - RV32IMA/ILP32

# agentd @ Tue, 21 Nov 2017 02:32:46 UTC link

Hi!

RISCV is becoming arch in new SoC.

Would you consider supporting ARCH=RV32IMA ABI=ILP32 ? Maybe with a musl toolchain?

musl-risc-toolchain https://github.com/rv8-io/musl-riscv-toolchain

Thanks!

virtual flash cards box Granule from Vladislav Grinchenko

# oui @ Tue, 21 Nov 2017 16:45:39 UTC link

Is that educative software for childrens (and other users) perhaps already avalaible for SliTaz?

see pls http://granule-flashcards.blogspot.de/

GRAMPS for hobby genealogists

# oui @ Tue, 21 Nov 2017 16:51:40 UTC link

Is that software, interesting for children to learn to know their origines, perhaps already available for SliTaz?

see pls https://gramps-project.org/introduction-WP/

The music I wrote in the LMMS in SliTaz

# Aleksej @ Wed, 22 Nov 2017 13:54:37 UTC link

Small promotion :)
Welcome and enjoy your listening!
https://soundcloud.com/lexeii/tracks

LMMS is a great app for your musical ideas:
http://pkgs.slitaz.org/?info=lmms

# Aleksej @ Thu, 23 Nov 2017 22:16:31 UTC link

Thanks guys!

41 plays last 7 days

I am very pleased! :)

http://www.garcinialossweight.com/greenlyte-forskolin

# naamkh036 @ Sun, 26 Nov 2017 06:58:09 UTC link

That's on steroids I find she's a girlfriend not his daughter so his girlfriend Tori it's confusing because she calls him daddy so you think you know you would think that that would be your daughter but but no but she does like to call him daddy hmm anybody else can go right a young girl calling her boyfriend daddy I haven't considered that to be slightly awkward but
http://www.garcinialossweight.com/greenlyte-forskolin

slitaz on an iMac

# fredyfred @ Mon, 27 Nov 2017 03:16:49 UTC link

just got slitaz to run on my iMac...booting from a usb stick.
going to do more testing then:
see if I can bootup from
1. slitaz on a SD card via the card slot in the iMac.
2. slitaz install into a separate partition on the HD.

Used Etcher via the Mac OS to install onto the usb stick.
Not sure if this is of interest to any other mac users out there... but I also have an even older Imac (the 17 inch) which isn't supported any more..so it will be niffty to get it up to date with slitaz.

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# kultex @ Tue, 28 Nov 2017 21:35:35 UTC link

Yes of course....

Because, I want to run slitaz on my MacBook Air......

Maybe you can give some more info - in two three weeks, I will have time and it's on my list.....

SliTaz (64 bit kernel) dpkg - brocken dependencies?

# oui @ Tue, 28 Nov 2017 18:00:48 UTC link

I will install gramps, a python application. there is a *.deb package a sourceforge and a dpkg package a Slitaz, really offered as "Debian package management system". Seems to be all ok!

sudo tazpkg -gi dpkg

ends with the msg: "dpkg" is installed.

dpkg -h

ends with the msg: dpkg: error while loading shared libraries: libselinux.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

sudo tazpkg -gi libselinux

ends with the msg:

Unable to find package "libselinux" in the mirrored packages list.
Unable to find package "get-libselinux" in the mirrored packages list.

also a search at https://slitaz.org, search function for packages ends without success.

how to install that debian package found at sourceforge

https://sourceforge.net/projects/gramps/
https://sourceforge.net/projects/gramps-addons/

Problema com calibração de monitor Touchscreen - Marca "Elo"

# patrickkuhn @ Wed, 29 Nov 2017 16:03:39 UTC link

Claudinei , Poderia me ajudar.

tenho um touch da nitere , a calibração fica ok, porém após a calibração fica invertido vc clica na esquerda toca na direita.

I can't install Slitaz. And my bootloader is corrupted

# Mich-C @ Thu, 30 Nov 2017 00:20:39 UTC link

Hi, I have a laptop that can boot in Legacy/ Hybrid Uefi and Uefi Mode.
I had problems installing another Linux distro so now
Grub is not present on my hdd and I have to use a usb flash drive with refind to boot this distro (windows isn't even detected anymore),

I can boot slitaz in live so I tryed to install it, also hoping to fix the grub.
Anyway slitaz installation doesn't work, this is the log

1 Installing SliTaz on: /dev/sda7
5 Checking settings...
mode : ok
media : ok
source : ok
root_uuid : ok
root_format : ok
home_uuid : ok
home_format : ok
hostname : ok
root_password : Warning: short password!
user_login : ok
user_password : ok
bootloader : ok
winboot : ok
10 Preparing source media...
Creating mount point: /media/source...
mount: /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0
-x-x-
Error: /dev/sr0: Mount failed.
Process not completed
x-x-x

---------------------
What is the problem?

# mojo @ Thu, 30 Nov 2017 20:15:33 UTC link

slitaz installer version 3.95
Open a terminal as root:
tazinst new
less tazinst.rc
Read all comments, focus on variables MEDIA and SOURCE.
Installing while booted in slitaz live USB:
MEDIA="usb"
SOURCE="</dev/sdXX of the flash drive of slitaz live your booted into>"

SliTaz from scratch

# oui @ Fri, 01 Dec 2017 00:27:07 UTC link

My interest would be to do with SliTaz what I did make with NuTyx, build SliTaz from scratch (if possible with some Tazscratch script, like Thierry Nuttens did a time presage and announce for NuTyx before he did finally build and offer his last new version "saravane") on my one computer using it with SliTaz (or an other distro if needing!) in the architecture of SliTaz 4.0 (Russian dolls). I did start in the forum of Arch a discussion to search practicable help:

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1752379#p1752379

remembering that a few years ago (2012) a Puppy adept, simargl, did build a Arch pup (https://archive.org/details/Puppy_Linux_Archpup) having really impressed me a lot at this time: it was the first Puppy that I know, permitting to each user, not having the intention to develope himself, to accede and include the about unlimited scope of a great packages library, the one of Arch, covering also correctly all dependencies directly from Arch and handling with package manager of Arch.

perhaps is someone interesting to horn in?

# fredyfred @ Sat, 02 Dec 2017 21:22:41 UTC link

I like to know how doing a Slitaz from scratch using NuTyx goes for you, oui.

Im going to have another attempt building Slitaz using Slitaz. My last attempt failed due to limitations with the computer I was using. But as yet have to find some spare time to do that. If I get around to it - I'll let you know how it goes.

I have used Puppy some years back…but did not know about the Puppy_linux_Archpup you mentioned…so thanks for the info.

android, iOS, pics, memos, internet sharing, slitaz: it has to work.

# lm2 @ Sat, 02 Dec 2017 10:16:43 UTC link

hello guys

i have been using an android based phone until here, being able of sharing connection throught usb...
although, i whish know how i could manage/get pictures and browsing file system from it. it's not seen as an usb storage, instead of windows who see it perfectly.

this month i have been given two ipod/phones of 3rd generation (touch)
how could i get pictures/memos/connection sharing from it?

iphone is not seen in ip a as an interface, even when usb sharing is enabled;
and i spent a night for trying to get pics and memos from it.. please help me ..
thankies

# kultex @ Sat, 02 Dec 2017 12:48:58 UTC link

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MTP

http://pkgs.slitaz.org/?package=mtp-tools&version=n

sorry in german but use any transaltion software -
http://www.kammerath.net/iphone-und-linux.html

http://pkgs.slitaz.org/?package=gtkpod&version=n

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/IOS

and if you think, it has to work, you are wrong in SliTAz - use another distro

# lm2 @ Tue, 05 Dec 2017 17:30:09 UTC link

i'm looking up to the end of the week :)

>and if you think, it has to work, you are wrong in SliTAz - use another distro

no, be sure i'm on the right distro, aka slitaz :)

as users, as end users allergic to the command line, like common people, we will do everything we can to make slitaz ans-we-ring to the general public needs;

work with us, to stay alive in slitaz saturated-market ! :)

Problème de syntaxe...

# Michel51 @ Sun, 03 Dec 2017 19:54:20 UTC link

Bonsoir,

Je suis sous Ubuntu 17.04 et je viens d'installer Slitaz via Virtualbox.
Au démarrage je reçois le message " Erreur de syntaxe openbox- start tag expected '<' not found".
Pouvez vous m'aider ?
D'avance merci

Michel

Problems with Gmail IMAP account in Claws Mail 3.7.10 (SliTaz 4.0)

# tazaymedia @ Mon, 04 Dec 2017 18:53:56 UTC link

Hi friends!

I've set up an Gmail IMAP account in Claws Mail, but doesn't work: "Can't connect to IMAP4 server: imap.gmail.com:993".

These are my configurations:

Basic:
Name of account: myname
Full name: myname@gmail.com
Mail address: myname@gmail.com
Server for receiving: imap.gmail.com
SMTP server (send): smtp.gmail.com
User ID: myname@gmail.com
Password: ********

Receive:
Authentication method: LOGIN

Send:
Authentication method: LOGIN
User ID: myname@gmail.com
Password: ********

SSL:
IMAP4: Use STARTTLS command to start SSL session
Send (SMTP): Don't use SSL (but, if necessary, use STARTTLS)

Advanced:
SMTP port: 465
IMAP4 port: 993

Anyone have any ideas? Thanks!!

# kultex @ Mon, 04 Dec 2017 19:43:10 UTC link

!!!! just dont use 4.0 - its fare to old !!!!!

# tazaymedia @ Mon, 04 Dec 2017 20:07:42 UTC link

Thanks, but SliTaz 4.0 works fine (in general) with my fare too old laptop (Dell Inspiron 2500, year 2000).

# fredyfred @ Tue, 05 Dec 2017 01:28:47 UTC link

tazaymedia, it really is a better option to go with rolling 5.0 release…its working fine on my computers that are older then yours.

but in saying that - I still couldn't get claws to work so went with thunderbird - then discovered that TazWeb makes mail easy and quick..so didn't need a mail client.

kultex - hope you read this: Ive been trying to give you additional info re slitaz on a mac.. but my postings disappear when I log out.. re-appear when I log back in..??

# mojo @ Tue, 05 Dec 2017 16:50:38 UTC link

sylpheed-3.1.1 in slitaz-4.0 works with gmail imap
An application specific password is required if 2-factor authentication is enabled on the account.

# tazaymedia @ Tue, 05 Dec 2017 17:45:57 UTC link

Thank you @mojo! Sylpheed works automatically and perfectly with Gmail IMAP in SliTaz 4.0. Regards!

unrar doesn't work (SliTaz 4.0)

# tazaymedia @ Mon, 04 Dec 2017 19:06:38 UTC link

I've installed the unrar package, but when I execute it...:

$ unrar file.rar
Extracting file.mp3 Failed
101 Failed

If I've logged like root, it's the same.

I don't know what's happening. Any idea??

# mojo @ Tue, 05 Dec 2017 17:25:59 UTC link

As root while connected to the interwebs:
tazpkg remove unrar
Rarlabs switched to https which is not supported by default busybox wget.
GNU version wget supports https:
tazpkg -gi wget
Install script to fetch/package/install closed source rar:
tazpkg -gi get-rar
Run script:
get-rar
Rarlabs rar and unrar version 5.5.0 are now installed as rar-5.5.0.tazpkg
unrar x file.rar should work unless file.rar is broken.

# tazaymedia @ Tue, 05 Dec 2017 17:57:44 UTC link

Thank you very much @mojo!

I had an error during the 4th step:

# get-rar
--2017-12-05 16:57:09-- http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm
Resolving http://www.rarlab.com (www.rarlab.com)... 5.135.104.98
Connecting to http://www.rarlab.com (www.rarlab.com)|5.135.104.98|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently
Location: https://www.rarlab.com/download.htm [following]
--2017-12-05 16:57:09-- https://www.rarlab.com/download.htm
Connecting to http://www.rarlab.com (www.rarlab.com)|5.135.104.98|:443... connected.
ERROR: cannot verify http://www.rarlab.com's certificate, issued by `/C=US/O=Let's Encrypt/CN=Let's Encrypt Authority X3':
Unable to locally verify the issuer's authority.
To connect to http://www.rarlab.com insecurely, use `--no-check-certificate'.
Downloading rar http://www.rarlab.com from http://www.rarlab.com/...
--2017-12-05 16:57:09-- http://www.rarlab.com/
Resolving http://www.rarlab.com (www.rarlab.com)... 5.135.104.98
Connecting to http://www.rarlab.com (www.rarlab.com)|5.135.104.98|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently
Location: https://www.rarlab.com/ [following]
--2017-12-05 16:57:09-- https://www.rarlab.com/
Connecting to http://www.rarlab.com (www.rarlab.com)|5.135.104.98|:443... connected.
ERROR: cannot verify http://www.rarlab.com's certificate, issued by `/C=US/O=Let's Encrypt/CN=Let's Encrypt Authority X3':
Unable to locally verify the issuer's authority.
To connect to http://www.rarlab.com insecurely, use `--no-check-certificate'.

I've tried "# get-rar --no-check-certificate" too, but it's the same.

# mojo @ Tue, 05 Dec 2017 18:09:34 UTC link

Install certificates for wget:
Download attached cert.txt
Rename to cert.pem
mv cert.txt cert.pem
If /etc/ssl directory doesn't exist:
mkdir /etc/ssl
Copy cert.pem to /etc/ssl
cp cert.pem /etc/ssl
get-rar

# tazaymedia @ Tue, 05 Dec 2017 19:46:07 UTC link

Solved!! :-) Thank you very much @mojo!!

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# tazaymedia @ Mon, 04 Dec 2017 23:58:56 UTC link

Thank you very much! I'd been looking for that information for a long time.

http://gravatar.com

Siemens Gigaset USB Stick 108 Compatible with SliTaz?

# du_selbst @ Thu, 07 Dec 2017 16:09:16 UTC link

Hallo an alle zusammen, ich hab es jetzt nach 5 Jahren geschafft SliTaz auf meinem Rechner zu installieren.

Diese Version hier hat gepasst: mirror.slitaz.org/iso/4.0/flavors/slitaz-4.0-core.iso

Um mein Wlan zu verbinden brauche ich jedoch einen Stick, das passende Modell wäre ein Siemens Gigaset 108, er läuft einwandfrei auf dem Rechner mit Windows XP, jetzt würde ich diesen Stick gerne installieren ( Ich habe eine Installations-CD aber die hilft wohl nur Windows weiter).

Hat irgendjemand einen Clue wie ich sowas mache?

Danke im voraus

Erich

Threads missing?

# kultex @ Fri, 08 Dec 2017 10:39:02 UTC link

A lot of topics disappeared from the forum - Evan with my admin rights in the forum i don't find them???

# mojo @ Fri, 08 Dec 2017 16:57:45 UTC link

@kultex
I reported forums,hg,etc.running on pangolin server were down on mailing list.
It appears a complete restore from backup was required.
The most recent backup available being 3 months old could be an explanation.
Very sad if we lost the last 3 months of posts :(
Will happen again unless offsite backups are generated daily,weekly,etc..

Can't download/install any package

# Kevlar @ Fri, 08 Dec 2017 17:39:20 UTC link

Hello.
I've noticed, that for my Slitaz Cooking, I can update the package list (with Tazpanel) but I can't install any package from the repositories, nor with Tazpanel or Terminal ?
For example, if I launch Sakura and try to install a package with
tazpkg -gi <packagename>
the result is :
"checksum error"
Any advice or help ?
Should I must change something ?
Thanks.

# mojo @ Fri, 08 Dec 2017 18:54:35 UTC link

Package installation from sakura is working here using tazpkg version 944
pulling from http://mirror1.slitaz.org/packages/5.0/

What tazpkg version and mirror are you using?

# Kevlar @ Fri, 08 Dec 2017 20:53:21 UTC link

Hello. Thanks for the fast reply.
My mirror is :

http://mirro1.slitaz.org/
I've tryed your mirror, ant when I refresh the list, Slitaz claims : 'failed'

My TazPkg version is : 944; as yours

I've done this :
sudo tazpkg recharge

no error, but, if I try to download an APP, the system returne the sam checksum error about the APP

# Kevlar @ Fri, 08 Dec 2017 21:49:14 UTC link

I've fixed it !
I've followed this thread :

http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/what-to-do-if-tazpkg-or-slitaz-panel-wont-download-and-install-packages

So, it's fixed ;-)
Thanks